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Promise Technology will soon offer custom configurations for its Pegasus3 line of Thunderbolt 3 desktop RAID storage solutions, allowing customers to configure a Pegasus3 RAID enclosure to meet specific needs.

Pricing on custom Pegasus3 configurations starts at $1,499. Customers can choose R4, R6, or R8 enclosures and select 1 and 2TB SSds or 3, 4, 6, 8, and 10TB hard drives. Prior to now, only specific configurations offered by manufacturers were available.

Promise's Pegasus3 storage solutions are designed for creative professionals who need speed and the protection that redundancy offers, with all options offering dual Thunderbolt 3 ports with 40Gb/s connectivity and support for six daisy-chained devices.

Custom configurations are available for purchase starting now on the Promise website, but the feature will officially be available on January 10.

Article Link: Promise Technology Now Offering Custom Configurations for Pegasus3 Desktop RAID Storage Solutions
 
Maybe it's buried somewhere on their site but the linked page doesn't say what drives they're using. No way would I buy RAID storage without knowing the non-recoverable read error rate.

edit: if they're running with less than 1:10^15 with those larger drives even in RAID 6 or 10 there's a statistically significant chance you won't be able to rebuild the array if a drive fails. It matters.

edit 2: for their prices I'd just get a QNAP TVS-882BRT3 and fill it with quality drives. Price would be less and you'd have far more functionality. (and know that your drives are good)

edit 3: just a reminder, RAID is not backup. :)
 
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Maybe it's buried somewhere on their site but the linked page doesn't say what drives they're using. No way would I buy RAID storage without knowing the non-recoverable read error rate.

edit: if they're running with less than 1:10^15 with those larger drives even in RAID 6 or 10 there's a statistically significant chance you won't be able to rebuild the array if a drive fails. It matters.

edit 2: for their prices I'd just get a QNAP TVS-882BRT3 and fill it with quality drives. Price would be less and you'd have far more functionality. (and know that your drives are good)

edit 3: just a reminder, RAID is not backup. :)
This one have Thunderbolt 3!!
 
Maybe it's buried somewhere on their site but the linked page doesn't say what drives they're using. No way would I buy RAID storage without knowing the non-recoverable read error rate.

edit: if they're running with less than 1:10^15 with those larger drives even in RAID 6 or 10 there's a statistically significant chance you won't be able to rebuild the array if a drive fails. It matters

edit 2: for their prices I'd just get a QNAP TVS-882BRT3 and fill it with quality drives. Price would be less and you'd have far more functionality. (and know that your drives are good)

edit 3: just a reminder, RAID is not backup. :)
Having owned both QNAP and Promise Pegasus2 products over the last several years, I will NEVER buy another QNAP product. The QNAP list of supported drives was updated after I had purchased to remove the drives I had purchased. Poor practice if you ask me. Their technical support team is not helpful at all, and the QNAP is totally unreliable and has had to rebuild about once every two months. I’ve had 4 Pegasus products running at work for 3-4 years and not a single problem whatsoever.
 
Having owned both QNAP and Promise Pegasus2 products over the last several years, I will NEVER buy another QNAP product. The QNAP list of supported drives was updated after I had purchased to remove the drives I had purchased. Poor practice if you ask me. Their technical support team is not helpful at all, and the QNAP is totally unreliable and has had to rebuild about once every two months. I’ve had 4 Pegasus products running at work for 3-4 years and not a single problem whatsoever.

Sorry you had bad luck with a Qnap. I own a tvs-682 with 4-wd 3tb reds. Been running strong for over a year and the versatility of the qnap software gives you a lot of options for your nas box. I cant speak for the support as i have not had to use. Its not unheard for a company to decertify something that was once certified if they see issues with the product after a period of time that was not seen before.
 
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This one have Thunderbolt 3!!

I think you're being sarcastic (with all the exclamation points ;-) ) but I do like the Thunderbolt 3 option, when you're moving a lot of data and don't have a 40Gb network it's really nice. BUT, the QNAP product I listed has Thunderbolt 3 as well (and a lot more features like I can run VMs on the QNAP and literally dozens [hundreds?] of other applications).
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Having owned both QNAP and Promise Pegasus2 products over the last several years, I will NEVER buy another QNAP product. The QNAP list of supported drives was updated after I had purchased to remove the drives I had purchased. Poor practice if you ask me. Their technical support team is not helpful at all, and the QNAP is totally unreliable and has had to rebuild about once every two months. I’ve had 4 Pegasus products running at work for 3-4 years and not a single problem whatsoever.

That hasn't been my experience at all. My QNAP isn't very old (6-7 months? My older NAS is a Lenova/EMC) but has been performing very well. I did some research and am now waiting for my TVS-882BRT3 to show up as I decided I want the Thunderbolt 3 as well (and can use more capacity, can't we all ;-) ). In my research and experience QNAP has a solid reputation and gives so much more than the raw enclosure vendors like Promise do.
 
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When will these manufacturers get their heads out of their asses and offer a 0TB enclosure only option

The HDD markup for virtually zero value add makes no sense. I recently bought a 0TB Synology DS918+ and saved a bunch of money versus the same unit with preinstalled HDDs.

If you can't snap WD Reds into the carrier and slide the carrier into the NAS then what are you going to do when a drive is failing and needs to be replaced?
 
LOL. Those prices.

Get yourself a QNAP or Synology.

Then go to Best Buy and pick up 8TB Easystore external drives. You can shuck the drives on the inside, which contain the WD Red NAS drives. They are routinely on sale for $150.

Save your money compared to this offering.
 
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I wish they would promise to deliver storage products that are less expensive. I have about 100 TB (Including 1-to-1 backup drives) but I use 4 TB drives that very cheap in comparison. I just don't have the fancy RAID or Thunderbolt 3 technology.
 
LOL. Those prices.

Get yourself a QNAP or Synology.

Then go to Best Buy and pick up 8TB Easystore external drives. You can shuck the drives on the inside, which contain the WD Red NAS drives. They are routinely on sale for $150.

Save your money compared to this offering.

Apples and Oranges.

These Promise Pegasus are DAS's, not NAS's. They are aimed at video editors etc that need speed and redundancy. I have a Synology DS918+ and it is great at what it does - but that definitely does not include being a fast drive for editing 4k video.

Appreciate the new TB3 QNAPs are blurring the lines between DAS and NAS, although I believe they a running ethernet over TB3 (which is great in that it allows more than one editor to use the drive at the same time) but does not offer full TB3 connection speeds.

If you want a fast TB3 enclosure for video and don't want to pay Promise prices then check out the Akitio Thunder 3 Quad X or Thunder 3 Quad mini. They also offer 0TB versions. SoftRaid rather than hardware raid though.
 
Actually the Thunderbolt QNAPs are not really DAS drives. They use Thunderbolt Bridged networking. It works pretty well, but mine is a lot more stable connection using the 10Gbe connection.

I also have a couple Pegasus R6 units and they have been solid. I have had one drive fail, but I did not do the rebuild as I went ahead and replaced the 6 drives with 4TB Reds and though Promise does not list them, they work fine. I thought I had a PS die. I found another unit very inexpensively on Ebay and swapped the PS units between them and both units have been fine since over a couple years. Was likely just a connection issue.

I like the DAS units for most online applications like Photos and iTunes libraries as they play nicer with a local drive vs a share.

Of course the QNAP unit can also do iSCSI which works great and mimics DAS, but you lose all the online goodness of QTS 4.3 which gets better and better and is updated very regularly.

One thing that can be a bit surprising with the NAS boxes is how much space can be swallowed up with security features like snapshot allocations. These add a great safety net but can eat a big chunk of the space. I also run Raid 6 so its a bit shocking to lose 8TB of storage, but it's worth it. When I bought mine the 6and8 TB drives were just coming out so I went with the safe 4TB option.
 
These new TB3 Qnap's (especially the new 4-bay): how do you connect a 2016/17 MBP to them using a 10GbE connection?

(That's apparently a lot faster than using vanilla Thunderbolt. Something like 300MBps vs 500MBps. Hence why I ask.)
 
These new TB3 Qnap's (especially the new 4-bay): how do you connect a 2016/17 MBP to them using a 10GbE connection?

(That's apparently a lot faster than using vanilla Thunderbolt. Something like 300MBps vs 500MBps. Hence why I ask.)

Well you would need an adapter, as most laptops these days don't come with an ethernet port.

I personally use a dock.
 
Well you would need an adapter, as most laptops these days don't come with an ethernet port.

I personally use a dock.
Yes obviously you need an adapter, but which ones?
(...and what dock has 10GbE on it, that you use?)
 
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