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Quark and the Mac

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This Microsoft-watch.com article recaps a Macworld Creative Pro presenatation given by Jürgen Kurz, Quark's vice-president of product management. In it, he addresses some concerns regarding Mac development:

During his presentation, Kurz sought to reassure professional content creators that Denver-based Quark still sees its traditional Mac market as core to its business, despite its increasing efforts to push its software for Windows. He also pledged to speed up development of future developments of the page-layout program.
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Kurz goes on to promise major upgrades will be coming every "14 to 18 months". The article also covers other aspects of the presentation, including QuarkXPress 6 features, demos, and the porting of XTensions.
 
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I like quark probably as much if not better than the next guy, but them saying they'll have updates every 14 - 18 months means it will be approx 4 years between updates in reality. Unless a miracle occurs.
 
Yah and we all know that people from large companies never lie. :rolleyes:
The fact alone that he has to tell the masses that they aren't going anywhere should be worrisome enough.
 
Sounds like Quark is trying to move to all windows but realizes that the Mac is still their bread and butter. Screw them, I hope everyone seriously considers inDesign.
 
quark who?! sure i still have my quark 4.1 in case a customer sends a file in quark, but all i use it for is to print out the file for matching, when i convert it to indesign. so long quark, feel free to upgrade in 18 months, 2 years, or never it won't make a bit of difference to me.
 
Synical

You guys are all synical. Quit bashing someone for something they didn't say. Because you don't know you are talking about.
it is good that Quark is STAYING on for the mac. I did not read it wrong it is NOT going only windows!
 
Oh yeah, upgrades...

Does no one notice that Quark changed less from versions 3 to 6 than any other graphics/publishing app ever did in a single version change?

Quark is not interested in expanding the boundaries of graphic design. They're so settled in their ways that imagination and creativity hold no sway in their product development. They'd rather be stable and stagnant and not rock the boat than be innovative. They are counterintuitive to the creative field.

Looking forward to ID3. - j
 
Shipping's another story

I paid for the upgrade to 6 by buying Quark 5 upgrade (a while ago). I am still waiting for notification that my copy is shipping. Of course it has been available how may weeks? So maybe they will update it every 14-18 months. They just won't ship it. But hey it's done. That's like telling your client the job is done we'll call you when we feel like delivering it.

I am already transitioning to In Design. BTW I've been making a "good" living and supporting my family for over 13 years in the design field so I am not just some opinionated DTP wannabe geek.

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Quark Licensing

Quark is going to shoot themselves by implementing their new licensing scheme. One computer per copy of quark.
 
its a joke

be seriouse. if quark would develop at least a program what can compete with indesign and its tons of features then i may be look at it again...my workflow just increased so much more after using InDesign. It rocks.
 
Quark 6 doesn't save down to 4.11

We really wanted to upgrade to Quark 6 but it cannot save back to 4.11 format. This makes it nearly impossible for us to use it since most of our clients want the files in 4.11 format.
 
The death of Quark

Quark will suffer a slow painful death. And I sure hope they do! They´ve made me suffer for too long.

When I first started using Xpress six years ago I found it to be very akward and PC-like, it didn´t offer the intuitive way of working like most apps on the mac. In fact after all these years I still haven´t come to like it, and after moving to InDesign I don´t ever want to click on that Xpress application icon again.

Speaking of which; look at the icon. It´s as crap as the app itself!
 
Bzzzzzt....too late Quark. I've been steadly moving my clients to inDesign for months now. It's got its own foibles, but in general, it is compliant with the OS X specs and well integrated with the rest of the Adobe family.

If Quark is going to win the faithful back, they are going to have to push the envelope in a big way and roll out a release that has major productivity enhancements.
 
I just finished a brochure with InDesign which had an Illustrator texture in the background, with several "Multiply" layers in InDesign laying over the top coloring them, typography layers and Photoshop images with anti-aliased edges and soft drop shadows over the top of that. I couldn't have done the piece in Quark and the layer implementation in ID2 made client revisions easy.

ID2 is such a better program, though it's not without flaws and it's pokey on lesser systems.

Incidentally, my printer handled it without problem and it looked even better than I imagined. - j
 
The whole thing bums me out. Okay, so we are being forced to support Adobe, Apple's second largest, and perhaps most important, competitor. Adobe put me through HEEELLLLLLL with that "PC Preffered" non-sense. Now we're seeing them pull Premiere away from Mac-users and you know it ain't stoppin there! I am just so totally sick of having to deal with these big brutes competing with each other and tossing the users around without a thought. And Apple ain't no saint! Think of all the Logic users who now have to either buy a Mac and get used to osx, or learn a new sequencing program. It's foul. What ever happened to Apple being open and "democratic"?
 
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I know we all love the web, but there's no use putting THREE T's in "http". You might get more visitors if you linked your URLs with the vb code. Nice logos on the shirts at Flush Vintage, btw. Do you do licensing deals? ;)
 
There are some people who still need to use Quark, and ID is not a viable option.

I am not one of those people. I feel very bad for those who are. Adobe isn't the greatest, but I've always hated Quark. I'd rather use Pagemaker. :rolleyes:
 
Originally posted by solvs
There are some people who still need to use Quark, and ID is not a viable option.

I am not one of those people. I feel very bad for those who are. Adobe isn't the greatest, but I've always hated Quark. I'd rather use Pagemaker. :rolleyes:
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It doesn't matter anymore to me... the company I work for will never go OS X. :mad:
...It is all quarks fault for not racing to the game quicker. You see, we were just bought out... and these guys are peecee fanatics. :( They are going to buy us quark 5 and from what I hear that just bites. Our 2 newest g4's have 400's in them... and 64 megs of ram. The rest of them are old beige g3's and even about 6 PowerMac 4400's.
I have this sad feeling my employers will buy us peecees and ditch the macs all together. That's why I feel if we had OS X ready macs prior to the buy out I wouldn't be in this boat.
I work at a newspaper. I'm a prepress technician, and I despise Quark.
 
Quark is behind the times

Just a little tidbit. I have been using InDesign to handle double-byte character files from my clients. I was looking into updating to Quark 6.0 until I found outthe US version doesn' t handle double-byte fonts and the version that does runs 1,999.00. Looks like I will be staying with InDesign.

Ex-Quark Fanatic
New InDesign Convert
 
Re: Quark is behind the times

Originally posted by eoliver
Just a little tidbit. I have been using InDesign to handle double-byte character files from my clients. I was looking into updating to Quark 6.0 until I found outthe US version doesn' t handle double-byte fonts and the version that does runs 1,999.00. Looks like I will be staying with InDesign.

Ex-Quark Fanatic
New InDesign Convert
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I also talked to a guy who has Quark 6 and he said you couldn't save documents as 4.0 and under. You can only save them as 5.0 and above. This sounds like a ploy to make people buy quark 5, or 6. And this is just crap. If we were to have quark 6, we couldn't send them to anyone around here... because they are all quark 4. The only reason why I want quark 6 is so I can use OS X at work. I am so sick of OS 8.1 - 8.6.
 
Prepress is Moribund!

The sad truth of the situation is that prepress as an industry is at the boring end of a 20 year process of technological change, and has now settled into a rut of essentially innovationless tedium.

Where once graphic designers had to update the equipment and software every year just to try to execute basic work without the dreaded hourglass/wheel showing up, now the operator speed and skill is the main limiting factor on workflow. And thats the key reason why old macs still are used in this industry, and the uprgarde cycle has slowed, not the lamentable slowness of Motorolas processor developments.

Quarkxpress is like a giant leech tapped into the main vein, they know the game is over, and they just want to make sure they maximise their end run to oblivion.

They are metaphor for all that ails prepress.

And I have been in prepress for 14 years, so this doesn't make me feel happy or creatively fulfilled. :(
 
Prepress is Moribund!

I'd wait to see how things pan out before putting the nails in Quark's coffin.

Quark seems to be battling high demand for their product:
We just got totally bombarded with orders," Kurz told attendees, and said that the company had a "huge backload."
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IGM also note that PM G5 sales are strong and Quark sales are strong.

While I would prefer our studio to embrace Indesign, it's important that Quark is successful and lifting their game – that publishing software on the Mac is not a one-horse race.

It's because Quark has been dominant in the press industry that the industry is slow to upgrade.
 
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