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QuarkXPress 6.1 Update
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nice maybe this will fix those pesky bugs.
runnning a magzine on quark for years knowing the files work perfectly with new quark. give me quark any day.
runnning a magzine on quark for years knowing the files work perfectly with new quark. give me quark any day.
GEEZZ, have you guys read the 6.1 known issues yet. Scares the **** out of me. Seven months later and we get a list of problems as long as my, umm, Arm? Give me a break.
I'll wait to hear how it goes from you guys who are brave'r than me.
I'll wait to hear how it goes from you guys who are brave'r than me.
About fricken time!
I prefer InDesign.. but they have been using Quark here for the past like 10 years so everything was in Quark.. and when I started working here, I was like "Screw OS 9" and upgraded to OSX and then we got InDesign and stuff for OSX and I started learning that. Although, I started out with them teaching me how to use Xpress 4.1. So, I got a copy of Xpress 6 from a friend to try out on our machine to make sure it would play nice before we bought it. Well, it doesnt play nice. When I print, everything is about 1/4" shifted to the left. So, I have not been able to use it. Will go get 6.1 updater and hopefully, that will fix the problem. Then we can buy Quark 6 and I wont have to use Classic anymore to use Xpress 5. YAY!
I prefer InDesign.. but they have been using Quark here for the past like 10 years so everything was in Quark.. and when I started working here, I was like "Screw OS 9" and upgraded to OSX and then we got InDesign and stuff for OSX and I started learning that. Although, I started out with them teaching me how to use Xpress 4.1. So, I got a copy of Xpress 6 from a friend to try out on our machine to make sure it would play nice before we bought it. Well, it doesnt play nice. When I print, everything is about 1/4" shifted to the left. So, I have not been able to use it. Will go get 6.1 updater and hopefully, that will fix the problem. Then we can buy Quark 6 and I wont have to use Classic anymore to use Xpress 5. YAY!
Let me know if it makes you re-register. A few months ago I had to do a clean installation of OS X and therefore had to reinstall Quark. It crippled it and made me re-register. But online registration stopped working (because it said my copy of Quark 6 was already installed on another computer--it wasn't), so I had to email a request for a new registration number. After three weeks of no answer (how freakin professional is that?), I called them and the barely discernible Indian lady who "helped" me claimed that my serial number was not on file. I was speechless. This is not cheap software, and they somehow lost my serial number?
Yougoddabekiddinme.
So since emailing and phoning didn't work, I sent a really nasty fax and got a prompt response in a day. But I will never go through that misery again. In fact, I think I only "get" (how generous of them) only one free registration code replacement. The next time, I believe they will charge me $40 to use software I already paid for. And I am dearly afraid that something will go wrong with upgrading and I will have to reregister again.
So let me know. This is one update I'm not going to be the guinea pig for.
(And yes, yes, InDesign is better, yadda yadda yadda. That doesn't mean we always get to choose.)
Yougoddabekiddinme.
So since emailing and phoning didn't work, I sent a really nasty fax and got a prompt response in a day. But I will never go through that misery again. In fact, I think I only "get" (how generous of them) only one free registration code replacement. The next time, I believe they will charge me $40 to use software I already paid for. And I am dearly afraid that something will go wrong with upgrading and I will have to reregister again.
So let me know. This is one update I'm not going to be the guinea pig for.
(And yes, yes, InDesign is better, yadda yadda yadda. That doesn't mean we always get to choose.)
what's quark xpress 
have it in case we ever get files from customers in quark, but other than that it collects dust. hey quark, go [bleep] yourself!
have it in case we ever get files from customers in quark, but other than that it collects dust. hey quark, go [bleep] yourself!Quark 6.1 Install
Tried installing the update...
It won't even install???
progress bar goes to about 1360 thousand items let to install, then it craps out..
hmmm.
strange.
oh well, back to indesign...
quark is a waste of time now.
don't have time to worry about trying to install buggy software.
Tried installing the update...
It won't even install???
progress bar goes to about 1360 thousand items let to install, then it craps out..
hmmm.
strange.
oh well, back to indesign...
quark is a waste of time now.
don't have time to worry about trying to install buggy software.
LOL
Funny how everybody hates Quark now. Yea, I called them a couple months ago to ask a question about something and got passed along through 3 different people. I could not understand any of them and they didnt know jack ****. WHY would you move your TECH SUPPORT to a 3rd world country?
Doesnt anybody know what 3rd World Country means? It means, they arent exactly the most tech savvy people. They have goats in thier houses and water from ponds.. I dont need tech support from that. Even if Quark tries to train them.. how can they help us professionals who have been USING the program, not just taught in a classroom, for longer than they have had electricity? Just so Quark can pay them $2/hour to mutter out incoherent babble and waste my time? That sucks. It sucks that I have to continue to use Xpress.
Funny how everybody hates Quark now. Yea, I called them a couple months ago to ask a question about something and got passed along through 3 different people. I could not understand any of them and they didnt know jack ****. WHY would you move your TECH SUPPORT to a 3rd world country?
Doesnt anybody know what 3rd World Country means? It means, they arent exactly the most tech savvy people. They have goats in thier houses and water from ponds.. I dont need tech support from that. Even if Quark tries to train them.. how can they help us professionals who have been USING the program, not just taught in a classroom, for longer than they have had electricity? Just so Quark can pay them $2/hour to mutter out incoherent babble and waste my time? That sucks. It sucks that I have to continue to use Xpress.
CRAP
Okay,
For some reason I am drawn to try and get this update to work!!!! ARGH!!!
It will not work.. I tried absolutely EVERYTHING..!!
I use quark day in and day out to load up old design files... I have been using quark for about 8-9 years now.. In the last few months I have switched to InDesign slowly due to the fact Quark 6.0 had so many problems. I basically use Quark 4.11 (classic mode) and InDesign.
I REALLY was going to give Quark this last chance with 6.1 .. But the DAMN F**KING thing does not even upgrade properly!!! There REALLY should be a lawsuit after this company! This is absolutely unacceptable. We paid good money to buy this software and it simply should have not been released! I mean, go to the quark website and they have already posted problems with 6.1??? Why would they release an update to update your software to more problems?? THIS ABSOLUTELY BAFFLES ME???? What type of corporate mentality do you have to have to do such a thing!
http://www.quark.com/products/xpress/tech_info/61knownissues.html
I have tried everything to try and upgrade.. Closing all font managers, all programs.. rebooting... holding down option keys to see if I get some special upgrade feature menu... EVERYTHING..
The UPDATER SIMPLY DOES NOT UPDATE!
I redownloaded the update 3 times to see if I had a bad download even.. NOTHING WORKS!
!~!~!~THIS IS THE ABSOLUTELY LAST STRAW~!~!~!
Bye Bye Quark.
I will simply import quark files to indesign now.
I have had it.
I RECOMMEND ALL current Quark Users to Accept the fact that Quark will not exist as a company soon...
Good Riddance. You Theives.
Okay,
For some reason I am drawn to try and get this update to work!!!! ARGH!!!
It will not work.. I tried absolutely EVERYTHING..!!
I use quark day in and day out to load up old design files... I have been using quark for about 8-9 years now.. In the last few months I have switched to InDesign slowly due to the fact Quark 6.0 had so many problems. I basically use Quark 4.11 (classic mode) and InDesign.
I REALLY was going to give Quark this last chance with 6.1 .. But the DAMN F**KING thing does not even upgrade properly!!! There REALLY should be a lawsuit after this company! This is absolutely unacceptable. We paid good money to buy this software and it simply should have not been released! I mean, go to the quark website and they have already posted problems with 6.1??? Why would they release an update to update your software to more problems?? THIS ABSOLUTELY BAFFLES ME???? What type of corporate mentality do you have to have to do such a thing!
http://www.quark.com/products/xpress/tech_info/61knownissues.html
I have tried everything to try and upgrade.. Closing all font managers, all programs.. rebooting... holding down option keys to see if I get some special upgrade feature menu... EVERYTHING..
The UPDATER SIMPLY DOES NOT UPDATE!
I redownloaded the update 3 times to see if I had a bad download even.. NOTHING WORKS!
!~!~!~THIS IS THE ABSOLUTELY LAST STRAW~!~!~!
Bye Bye Quark.
I will simply import quark files to indesign now.
I have had it.
I RECOMMEND ALL current Quark Users to Accept the fact that Quark will not exist as a company soon...
Good Riddance. You Theives.
Updated to 6.1 - And Still Buggy
So I installed the update to Quark 6, hoping it would resolve the problem we have with our Delta Hercules RIP station (spot color don't always correspond to libraries) and guess what? Same bug.
Better luck next time. When does the 6.2 update come out?
So I installed the update to Quark 6, hoping it would resolve the problem we have with our Delta Hercules RIP station (spot color don't always correspond to libraries) and guess what? Same bug.
Better luck next time. When does the 6.2 update come out?
At least you guys can use 6.0
I cant even use Xpress 6.0! Everything shifts to the left about 1/4" on output. I cant use that.
I cant even use Xpress 6.0! Everything shifts to the left about 1/4" on output. I cant use that.
Lawsuit
I really believe people should gather together and form a lawsuit against this company.
This is absolute robbery. I could see if this was a shareware package that cost 20 to register.. Sure , bugs are somewhat "acceptable".
Quark is blatantly cheating people out of their money. This software is useless in the state it is in. These are not simple bugs. The software simply does not work as promised.
I really believe people should gather together and form a lawsuit against this company.
This is absolute robbery. I could see if this was a shareware package that cost 20 to register.. Sure , bugs are somewhat "acceptable".
Quark is blatantly cheating people out of their money. This software is useless in the state it is in. These are not simple bugs. The software simply does not work as promised.
Re: Quark 6.1 Install
Wow, not going to try to upgrade. Have 6.0 but haven't used it since install other than to confirm all the bug issues. Just decided not worth it. Gald I only paid $299 for the 4-6 upgrade (edu pricing).
I also noticed that Quark said you would need your 6.0 CD to do the install. I can't think of any other software (ok, maybe one) where you need the cd to do an upgrade. The whole registration process is a pain and just not worth while.
I agree with those who paid close to a grand for this software should look in to a class action suit. This is just insane.
Wow, not going to try to upgrade. Have 6.0 but haven't used it since install other than to confirm all the bug issues. Just decided not worth it. Gald I only paid $299 for the 4-6 upgrade (edu pricing).
I also noticed that Quark said you would need your 6.0 CD to do the install. I can't think of any other software (ok, maybe one) where you need the cd to do an upgrade. The whole registration process is a pain and just not worth while.
I agree with those who paid close to a grand for this software should look in to a class action suit. This is just insane.
just FYI, there are other apps out there that require the original cd when upgrading via a software download, diskwarrior being a notable example. that's not really that big a deal.
also, if you actually read the list of known issues with quark i think most people would find that many of the issues do not have relevance to their workflow.
that said, i'm going to wait and see what unforseen problems crop up before upgrading here at work. i've been using 6.0 for about 3 months now and have had relatively little to complain about beyond the crappy way quark manhandles pantone color names.
also, if you actually read the list of known issues with quark i think most people would find that many of the issues do not have relevance to their workflow.
that said, i'm going to wait and see what unforseen problems crop up before upgrading here at work. i've been using 6.0 for about 3 months now and have had relatively little to complain about beyond the crappy way quark manhandles pantone color names.
I'm surprised Quark isn't charging $1000 for this "upgrade."
I'm forced to get it due to a (one) client, luckily all my other ones are smart, progressive, forward thinkers, and dumped the piece of donkey doo known as Quark for InDesign long ago.
Quark, just go away. You were great... in 1992, now, you're just a bloated piece-o-poop has been.
I'm forced to get it due to a (one) client, luckily all my other ones are smart, progressive, forward thinkers, and dumped the piece of donkey doo known as Quark for InDesign long ago.
Quark, just go away. You were great... in 1992, now, you're just a bloated piece-o-poop has been.
I just installed the update...it took about 4 mins total. The only thing you need the CD for is the serial number; their instructions also tell you how to get your serial number if you don't have the CD.
So, after pressing the download, you get a window to enter serial #, then a window showing your account info (incase you need to change anything like addy). This window also has the download link. Press it and it goes through the dl process (it asks if you want to do an easy install, etc. etc.).
When done, it leaves you in a new window to request the enhance preview extension. Click on that link and you will get an email with a stuffed extension.
By the time the updater downloaded, and I launched my email app, the email from Quark with the extension was waiting for me. So I unstuffed the extensions and placed them in Quarks extension folder.
Done. Now I'll play around with 6.1 just to confirm that I'll be underwhelmed.
So, after pressing the download, you get a window to enter serial #, then a window showing your account info (incase you need to change anything like addy). This window also has the download link. Press it and it goes through the dl process (it asks if you want to do an easy install, etc. etc.).
When done, it leaves you in a new window to request the enhance preview extension. Click on that link and you will get an email with a stuffed extension.
By the time the updater downloaded, and I launched my email app, the email from Quark with the extension was waiting for me. So I unstuffed the extensions and placed them in Quarks extension folder.
Done. Now I'll play around with 6.1 just to confirm that I'll be underwhelmed.
Well, as you know, I downloaded it this morning. Ofcourse, I repaired permissions before and after the download...as always.
AND, 6.1 crashes everytime I try to Get Picture which is a PDF, everytime I try to Export To PDF, and everytime I press Apple Q.
An hour with Tech Support yields me sending them the Quark Crash Log.
I've de-installed 6.1 and re-installed 6.0.
And if I didn't need their friggin app so much, I'd be wishing them some very very bad juju.
Eight friggin Months For This Update! What in the frick have they been doing all of this time?!!!!!
AND, 6.1 crashes everytime I try to Get Picture which is a PDF, everytime I try to Export To PDF, and everytime I press Apple Q.
An hour with Tech Support yields me sending them the Quark Crash Log.
I've de-installed 6.1 and re-installed 6.0.
And if I didn't need their friggin app so much, I'd be wishing them some very very bad juju.
Eight friggin Months For This Update! What in the frick have they been doing all of this time?!!!!!
Quark's Bad
OK now I'm scared S*****ss I just finished convincing my boss we need to make the move to OS 10. I run G3's at work on OS 9.2.2 and have been on OS X at home for about a year now (love it) After writing a 2 page proposal detailing every piece of software, Hardware upgrade and procedure to rebuild the machines, we ordered the package today. Just over $1,000 in soft and hardware. I cut my teeth on Quark 2.0 in the Late '80s and all through 4.1 now. when I started at this job 8 years ago my boss did all the desktop stuff and used PageMaker 4 and MS Word ( don't go there) after hearing his crap over all those years about how PageMaker is the only way to go and completely ignoring him I basically converted our complete customer base to Quark (about 800 different customers totaling over 5,700 documents ALL IN QUARK! Now I'm doing this upgrade and all he wants to know is Will the files convert OK? After all the posting from you guys I think I better look for work in a coal mine or something!
PS In my mind Long Live InDesign!!!
We've also been Adobe ASN members for 3 years and love it
OK now I'm scared S*****ss I just finished convincing my boss we need to make the move to OS 10. I run G3's at work on OS 9.2.2 and have been on OS X at home for about a year now (love it) After writing a 2 page proposal detailing every piece of software, Hardware upgrade and procedure to rebuild the machines, we ordered the package today. Just over $1,000 in soft and hardware. I cut my teeth on Quark 2.0 in the Late '80s and all through 4.1 now. when I started at this job 8 years ago my boss did all the desktop stuff and used PageMaker 4 and MS Word ( don't go there) after hearing his crap over all those years about how PageMaker is the only way to go and completely ignoring him I basically converted our complete customer base to Quark (about 800 different customers totaling over 5,700 documents ALL IN QUARK! Now I'm doing this upgrade and all he wants to know is Will the files convert OK? After all the posting from you guys I think I better look for work in a coal mine or something!
PS In my mind Long Live InDesign!!!
We've also been Adobe ASN members for 3 years and love it
Re: Quark's Bad
You can run Quark 4.11 in OS X'es Classic Mode very well. We simply are saying that Quark 5 or 6 are simply a waste of money. Quark 4.11 was revised to a point that it was fully usable, however outdated the interface is. Quark 6 has definitely not seen even a remote amount of revisions to be considered usable yet. It is very buggy.
I personally and making the switch to Indesign slowly in OS X . I use Quark 4.11 no problem in classic mode through OS X.
What speed G3's are you going to be using for OS X? Honestly OS X is Beautiful, but if all your application all run in OS 9 and are ment for OS 9. I do not see a reason to upgrade to OS X. You essentially will be runnning OS 9 in OS X. Doesn't make sense to me. Considering you probably will get better performance sticking straight in OS 9.
I say stick to whatever works for you. personally all of our applications except quark run in OS X natively now. We did the whole suite upgrade about 1 1/2 years ago. Everything is great. Just a pain having to keep booting classic mode for quark, considering we have shelled out money for 6 that simply is not usable.
Ciao
You can run Quark 4.11 in OS X'es Classic Mode very well. We simply are saying that Quark 5 or 6 are simply a waste of money. Quark 4.11 was revised to a point that it was fully usable, however outdated the interface is. Quark 6 has definitely not seen even a remote amount of revisions to be considered usable yet. It is very buggy.
I personally and making the switch to Indesign slowly in OS X . I use Quark 4.11 no problem in classic mode through OS X.
What speed G3's are you going to be using for OS X? Honestly OS X is Beautiful, but if all your application all run in OS 9 and are ment for OS 9. I do not see a reason to upgrade to OS X. You essentially will be runnning OS 9 in OS X. Doesn't make sense to me. Considering you probably will get better performance sticking straight in OS 9.
I say stick to whatever works for you. personally all of our applications except quark run in OS X natively now. We did the whole suite upgrade about 1 1/2 years ago. Everything is great. Just a pain having to keep booting classic mode for quark, considering we have shelled out money for 6 that simply is not usable.
Ciao
I know what Quark will run in. My main G3 is getting a Sonnet ZIFF G4-800 CPU upgrade. It has 1gb of RAM (max) and does run just fine. The reason we are upgrading is because a majority of our customers are beginning to supply us with documents that we can not access, and in the current stressed printing market, we can't AFFORD NOT TO. I am also forced to work on PCs with Publisher 2003 and am constantly being given MS Word documents that I have to convert to PDF and print separations from (try that one).
I also am an InDesign user and have switched from Quark as my main tool about a year ago, yet InDesign still has a few issue with converting documents that have come back to bite us. For example I just recently opened a simple 2/color business card in Indesign for a client that we printed last year using Quark. The colors used in Quark were black, PMS 186 (PANTONE 186 CVU), and white, when open in InDesign the white I manually change to "Paper" the black was OK but the PMS 186 did not Translate because now InDesign handles coated and uncoated PMS colors with a single designation. either "U" or "C", not "CVU" and "CVC". Because of this, the logo on the business card when opened in InDesign converted to black instead of PMS, and got printed that way. We ate that one!!
We are members of Adobe's ASN (Adobe Solutions Network) which gives us all the software in the latest versions in both PC and MAC format. Meaning we gat Creative Suite (Photoshop CS, Illustrator CS, InDesign CS, Acrobat Pro, and Adobe Go Live) for both platforms and all the upgrade releases as they come out, and without OS X the MAC versions are useless.
So after that long winded explination, that's why we are upgrading.
I also am an InDesign user and have switched from Quark as my main tool about a year ago, yet InDesign still has a few issue with converting documents that have come back to bite us. For example I just recently opened a simple 2/color business card in Indesign for a client that we printed last year using Quark. The colors used in Quark were black, PMS 186 (PANTONE 186 CVU), and white, when open in InDesign the white I manually change to "Paper" the black was OK but the PMS 186 did not Translate because now InDesign handles coated and uncoated PMS colors with a single designation. either "U" or "C", not "CVU" and "CVC". Because of this, the logo on the business card when opened in InDesign converted to black instead of PMS, and got printed that way. We ate that one!!
We are members of Adobe's ASN (Adobe Solutions Network) which gives us all the software in the latest versions in both PC and MAC format. Meaning we gat Creative Suite (Photoshop CS, Illustrator CS, InDesign CS, Acrobat Pro, and Adobe Go Live) for both platforms and all the upgrade releases as they come out, and without OS X the MAC versions are useless.
So after that long winded explination, that's why we are upgrading.