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Radeon HD 4870 Upgrade Kit

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Apple Corps

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The answer to this is in one of the several threads that I have seen - but eluding me at the moment.

So - if I purchase the Apple Radeon HD 4870 upgrade kit to install in my Spring '07 Mac Pro 1,1 - will I find all that is needed in the kit or do I have to purchase special power connectors?

Thanks in advance.
 
Let me be a little more sepcific than Cindori. The answer is yes and no .
:)

Yes to the first part of your question, no to the second.
 
akadmon said:
Let me be a little more sepcific than Cindori. The answer is yes and no .
:)

Yes to the first part of your question, no to the second.
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I didn't need any special connectors with my kit...

Also, a spring '07 Mac Pro would just about be out of the extended AppleCare coverage by now anyway, so as far as warranty issues are concerned, you're upgrading at your own risk either way.

There's really nothing to worry about though. Enjoy your upgrade! Long live the Mac Pro 1,1 !!
 
an ATI 4870 Graphics Card would be covered by warranty from Apple when sold separately.


But since Apple does not list the 2007 Mac Pro under Compatible models, if your card breaks, they will just say "Hey, you used it on a non-compatible machine, so we're removing the warranty of your 4870". It has happened.

There is NOTHING different in the 2006 / 2007 / 2008 / 2009 Mac Pro as far as Graphic Card compatability goes for the 4870. Apple just wants to sell more machines.

And the MP 2007 = 2,1 not 1,1 ;)

it's pretty funny, if you buy a PC card and flash it, you not only save ~200$, and get double the video ram, and get higher clock speed, but you will also get warranty on the card towards the manufacturer (Sapphire, Asus, XFX...).
 
Cindori said:
an ATI 4870 Graphics Card would be covered by warranty from Apple when sold separately.


But since Apple does not list the 2007 Mac Pro under Compatible models, if your card breaks, they will just say "Hey, you used it on a non-compatible machine, so we're removing the warranty of your 4870". It has happened.

There is NOTHING different in the 2006 / 2007 / 2008 / 2009 Mac Pro as far as Graphic Card compatability goes, except the 2008 and 2009 PCI-Express Slots ARE FASTER. The 4870 will NOT be bottlenecked by the slots in the 2006 / 2007. Apple just wants to sell more machines.

And the MP 2007 = 2,1 not 1,1 ;)

it's pretty funny, if you buy a PC card and flash it, you not only save ~200$, and get double the video ram, and get higher clock speed, but you will also get warranty on the card towards the manufacturer (Sapphire, Asus, XFX...).
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LOL.... Funny!
 
Cindori - in System Profiler the Model Identifier is 1,1

When I load the serial number in various sites they show a April 2007 production date

:confused: :confused: :confused:
 
Apple Corps said:
Cindori - in System Profiler the Model Identifier is 1,1

When I load the serial number in various sites they show a April 2007 production date

:confused: :confused: :confused:
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Don't worry dude, occasionally apple screws up.
In one of my MacBooks, under coconutIdentityCard, it shows up as made in "?"

Someone once asked had it been in for service.. and it hadn't cause I purchased it as New completely sealed product. Go figure...:rolleyes:
 
Cindori said:
There is NOTHING different in the 2006 / 2007 / 2008 / 2009 Mac Pro as far as Graphic Card compatability goes, except the 2008 and 2009 PCI-Express Slots ARE FASTER.
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If I remember correct, there is a huge difference in graphics compatibility between these 4 machines. Only machines of 2008 and 2009 support new graphics cards that require a 64bit EFI. With a MP 1.1 or 2.1 you're limited to 32bit compatible cards like the Radeon 4xxx series.

Or am I missing something? I recall that people with an early Pro can't use the GTX285 because of that 64bit issue.
 
Looks like it is a 1,1 (from EveryMac.com)
 

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Transporteur said:
If I remember correct, there is a huge difference in graphics compatibility between these 4 machines. Only machines of 2008 and 2009 support new graphics cards that require a 64bit EFI. With a MP 1.1 or 2.1 you're limited to 32bit compatible cards like the Radeon 4xxx series.

Or am I missing something? I recall that people with an early Pro can't use the GTX285 because of that 64bit issue.
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ofc, my mistake, meant for 4870, edited.
 
UltraNEO* said:
LOL.... Funny!
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Yep, the only way around it, is to put the card in someone else who has a "compatible" Mac Pro's expansion slot and take it in.

Then miraculously it will be covered. I've had to do that once for a friend. Of course in my case, I called AppleCare and had the replacement sent to me.
 
Apple Corps said:
Looks like it is a 1,1 (from EveryMac.com)
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Mac Pro 1,1 - Released August 7, 2006 - Xeon 5150 "Woodcrest" 2.66 (2x 2-core)

Mac Pro 2,1 - Added as an upgrade option on April 4, 2007 - Xeon 5365 "Clovertown" 3.0 (2x 4-core). Mac Pro 1,1 was still available at this time as the standard option. (There may have been a 2.0 ghz option, IIRC)

These models were replaced on January 8, 2008 with Mac Pro 3,1, or as we call them around here, "Early 2008 Mac Pro".

The confusion occurs because the 8-core option was introduced mid-product cycle with a different model identifier.

Source: Wikipedia
 
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