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hajime

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If they have not changed the hardware of their CPU, even Apple releases new computers this year, we will be buying computers with the Meltdown/Spectre bugs. So, shall we wait for the CPU manufacturers modify the design of their CPU first?
 
As the security hole still exists in previous models. An 8th gen Core series will still be faster than the previous gens. Anything Skylake or later should have a lower percentage performance impact than older models.

As for waiting. If you need a new computer now buy it. If you don't need a new one. Sure, why not wait? That would be the prudent decision whether or not these flaws existed.

Given how slow Apple is about releases and Intel's delays in 10nm. You may be waiting until late 2019 for a Spectre/Meltdown free CPU in a Mac.
 
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Having read up on it a bit, I can't say that I am overly concerned over Spectre/Meltdown when it comes to my personal computing

Me neither all seems a bit of a storm in a teacup if you ask me.

As for whether to wait don’t wait for a spectre fix I could be years, however more cores in most chips across intels range is worth waiting for this year if you can wait.
 
If they have not changed the hardware of their CPU, even Apple releases new computers this year, we will be buying computers with the Meltdown/Spectre bugs. So, shall we wait for the CPU manufacturers modify the design of their CPU first?


Apple has released patches for both High Serria and Serria anyway.

Me neither all seems a bit of a storm in a teacup if you ask me.

As for whether to wait don’t wait for a spectre fix I could be years, however more cores in most chips across intels range is worth waiting for this year if you can wait.

Particularly when its been out for a tad, and its still not in the wild yet.
I put this in the same bracket as the WP2 protocol issue.

These are problems ya, but is anyone gonna make use of this ? Not that i can see.

I applied patch anyway, but really i didn't need to.
 
For me, the answer is no. I feel it is likely that future architectures will also have vulnerabilities that will eventually be discovered and require subsequent (software) mitigations that will probably negatively impact performance to some extent. Further, as it may take several years or longer to address this from a hardware level (possibly 2, 3, or 4 generations after 8th gen wafers?), I don't personally think waiting is justifiable if reduced productivity is a consequence. As of right now, I have applied the mitigations on my Kaby Lake devices, but am not using them on my Haswell device as, to my understanding, the performance toll is more significant (similarly, I am using the iOS update with the mitigation on my X, where I am not on my 6s.) YMMV.
 
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