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silverserpent

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Oct 22, 2013
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I am thinking about maybe selling my old cMBP and buying a new rMBP. As far as I know, there isn't really any reason for me to buy a new one when I could get a comparable refurb for $600 less. I'm looking at the June 2012 model, 2.6ghz, 16gb ram, 512gb ssd. Since the 750m is really just a rebranded 650m and I'm not concerned about battery life, is there any reason not to get this?
 
if you are not very interesting in playing games, I will go with brand new 2013 - overall speed is great because of pcie ssd and also battery life is for 15" notebook great - I get from 10-12 hours and that is amazing considering, that you have portable power house
 
The other thing to keep in mind is that the 2013 rMBP support the latest Wifi standard. IEEE 802.11 ac. However if you do not have the need of the latest Wifi spec, the longer battery life and the faster SSD I would say go for the refurbished model
 
I wonder how refurbs fare - since you might just be buying one of the many rejects from the display lottery that new buyers face.
 
if you are not very interesting in playing games, I will go with brand new 2013 - overall speed is great because of pcie ssd and also battery life is for 15" notebook great - I get from 10-12 hours and that is amazing considering, that you have portable power house

Sorry, but this is more marketing than fact. The average user will notice virtually no speed difference between the 2012 and 2013 models. The PCIe SSD excels at sequential read/writes (which are great for benchmarks and don't affect most real world operations). The battery life difference is only an hour. And in terms of the CPU, it's a 4% difference.

Just because something is "brand new" doesn't really make it inherently better. And not having the dGPU in your back pocket should you decide later on that you wish you had it, well, sucks.

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I wonder how refurbs fare - since you might just be buying one of the many rejects from the display lottery that new buyers face.

I think people have been super whiny about the screens, and unnecessarily so. But that said, the refurbs we're talking about are the older models. The only issue people complained about there was image retention (a valid complaint), but the refurbs generally speaking seem to have been better in that regard.
 
Got a question. The Haswell 2.0 15" is equivalent to which early 2013 model? the 2.4 or 2.7?
 
I recently purchased a refurb. Nothing about the new one felt better than having the dedicated 650m, except the 802.11ac- which would of been nice.
 
if you are not very interesting in playing games, I will go with brand new 2013 - overall speed is great because of pcie ssd and also battery life is for 15" notebook great - I get from 10-12 hours and that is amazing considering, that you have portable power house

What is your point? The two may as well be identical in speed. I'm not sure about battery differences, but speed is no different.
 
I bought a refurb 2012 13" rMBP for $1059. The corresponding 2013 model was about $450 more if you upgraded it to 8GB RAM. I am very happy with it. If you look at the benchmarks and reviews, etc, you will find that the only significant different is battery life. I would like to get 10-12 hours instead of 6-7, but it wasn't worth the $450 difference.

In the past I have been a spec whore and tech nerd that had to have the latest and greatest, but now I almost always buy from the refurb store where you find the real value. I've always gotten a device that feels brand new in every way except for the packaging.
 
Thanks for all the advice! Just one more question: is there any reason to shell out more for the Feb 2013 version or will the June 2012 version be practically the same?
 
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