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Disclaimer: I am not telling anyone their experience is wrong, I do not have a degree in processor engineering or fluid dynamics. These are my findings and recommendations and are based on my use case, and what I'm looking for in a Macbook Air.

A week after I upgraded my 2015 Macbook Air for a 2019, the 2020 refresh was announced. After reading what a large upgrade it was supposed to be, I then purchased a 2020 i5 and wasn't very happy with it (helpful users here guided me towards Apple's return policy, which was really very easy). After sending back the 2020 i5, I received and have been testing a 2020 i3.

When I posted my experiences with the 2020 i5, I got told by a lot of people 'well if your computer is getting hot, you're clearly using a Pro workload, so get a Pro.'

I'm really, really not in need of a professional quality computer. Here's my use case just to nip that in the bud:

- Brave (a privacy focused Chromium-based browser for web browsing and PDFs, five tabs max)
- Video calls (mostly Facetime/sometimes RingCentral for work)
- Citrix (Virtual machine for work, not processor intensive)
- and, occassionally, using Bootcamp for work-proprietary software that'll only work on Windows 10

And no, I'm not using Safari. I get it, but I'm allowed to choose what browser I'd like to use, and I'm not a fan of desktop Safari. The internet is optimised for Chromium based browsers. Sorry. 🤷‍♂️

I've been using Macbook Airs since 2013 so I think I've got a pretty good sample size to make my own judgements on (2013 Core 2 Duo, 2015 Core 2 Duo, 2019 i5, 2020 i5 and now the 2020 i3). The above use case hasnt really changed in the past seven years, except - as with a lot of people - I'm having to do more video calls than I used to, mostly with friends/family.

The Short Version - The 2020 i3 is nearly as good at managing heat and fan noise as the 2019. Whilst the battery life is about 1-2 hours less, this is much better than the 2020 i5 I had for a week. Performance wise, I've found the 2019 i5 and 2020 i3 to be almost identical for my real world use (with the 2019 actually performing better at some things, the 2020 performing better in others - no clear winner). Read more if you're interested.

I'm lucky in that I got to test the 2020 i5 side-by-side with the 2019, and now I'm getting to test the 2020 i3 side-by-side with the 2019, which means I've mostly been able to set them at the same task (say, streaming video) and compare power draw, heat, and fan noise, which are the three most important factors to me.

On those three factors, the 2020 i5 was the worst (noticeably hot on the case, noticeably loud fans, terrible battery life for a Macbook Air) during every day tasks. The 2020 i3 and the 2019 i5 were very close on all three factors. Here are the main differences:

2020 i3 vs 2019 i5 - Fans and Thermals - The 2020 is slightly hotter and slightly louder, but not annoyingly so.
- The 2020 i3 is about 15c hotter (CPU temp) than the 2019 in almost all scenarios, compared to the 2020 i5's sometimes 30-40c. I didn't really notice the 2020 i3's CPU temperatures translating to an uncomfortably warm case. I did notice this a lot in my week with the 2020 i5, which is one of the main reasons I sent it back.
- So, even though the 2020 i3 runs a little hotter by the numbers, what does this mean in the real world? It means that the fans run at minimum (2700rpm) more often than the 2019 - mostly due to the way the Ice Lake processor works, heat very briefly ramps up to 90c on the CPU when opening a video in youtube (compared to the 2020 i5's 100, pretty good). Then the fans will be on for about half an hour to bring CPU temps back down to 58-60c, which was my average for web browsing.
- To compare this with the 2019 i5, the web browsing CPU average temp is 45-50c. It's a little noticeably cooler on the case, but you have to directly compare them to feel the difference. But, it does mean that the fan on the 2019 is at 0rpm much more often (I'd estimate 80% of the time compared to the 2020 i3's 50% of the time), which is quite nice if you're in a really quiet work area. Shouldn't be noticeable to most people in most scenarios, especially if you're coming from a non-Macbook Air laptop.

Quick note/history lesson for context on fan noise - the minimum rpm for Macbook Airs was changed from 1800rpm in 2017's model to 2700rpm in the 2018 refresh. It's the same fan in the 2020.
- But, the Macbook Air's fan cooling scheme went from an always on 1800rpm, which had been consistent since the 2013 model, to stop-start-stop-start. In 2018, for the first time, we had a Macbook Air whose fan was able to be completely off - and was at 0rpm most of the time.
- In my tests I've found that the fans used in the models since 2018 are louder at min rpm (to see I wasn't crazy, I checked Notebookcheck's reviews - I'm not).
- It's a small point, but because the fan governor is now stop-start as opposed to always-on-min-rpm, I'd prefer it to be off as often as possible now that the fan is more audible in this post-2018 chassis.

Still, on the 2020 i3, the only thing that kicked the fan up above 2700rpm to audible in a-non-silent-room was video conferencing. It's my most CPU/GPU intensive task.

Video Calls
My test was 'how long can I run this video chat before I notice the fans warming up and my bollocks roasting?'

Results
- 2020 i5 had the fans kick in at 4000rpm after a few minutes, and then holding steady at 8000rpm for the rest of the call. People on the call would comment on the noise, I had to pump up my volume, it sucked for everyone.
- 2020 i3 had the fans kick in at 4000rpm after about 10-15 minutes, holding there for the rest of the call. This was not noticeable to other call participants, unlike the 2020 i5.
- 2019 i5 had the fans kick in to 4000 rpm after about half an hour, again, like the 2020 i3, holding there for the rest of the call. So both are pretty good for video conferencing in my experience (apart from the crappy camera, but I honestly don't care about that. An HD webcam would probably mean a much thicker lid, I'm not down for that).

One final note - pre-Corona, I never used a desk when using Macbook Airs. It was always on my lap seated, on my lap lying down on the couch, or on my bed covers lying in bed. For the 2019 i5, there is no difference in thermals/fan noise in these use cases at all. It runs as cool on top of a blanket as it does on a desk. For the 2020 i3, fans are at min rpm 90% of the time when not used on a desk. For the 2020 i5, if you use it on your lap or in bed for longer than ten minutes, 'holy mother of god is someone flying a drone next to the window?'

Before anyone jumps down my throat, I get the cooling design, etc etc etc. But if you are someone who does predominantly use your laptop... you know, on your lap... think carefully if you really need an i5, because it definitely needs a level, flat surface and completely unobstructed airflow to get optimal cooling, unlike the other two, which can be used wherever you want without noticeable hits to temperature, noise and performance.

Battery - 2019 still reigns supreme, 2020 i3 was about 15-20% worse, 2020 i5 was about 40% worse.
I did two battery tests in the week I had the 2020 i5, so I figured it was only fair to replicate them on the 2020 i3 and the 2019 to get a proper comparison.

Note: these tests were done after all indexing and synching were completed.

Test 1: The 'regular, every day' test. 50% brightness. Browse the web in Brave (Reddit, news sites, occasional YouTube, never more than 3 tabs) until the battery life hit 50%. Then, switch to Netflix and stream the same video at the same compression until the battery runs out.

Test 2. The 'Ah crap I'm stuck on an international flight and I'm bored' test. Obviously not such a worry anymore (ha ha ha ha 😢). 50% brightness. Netflix, stream the same video at the same compression until the battery runs out.

For those interested, the chosen series for the streaming portion of the tests was Start Trek: The Next Generation. Nothing better than a classic Picard speech during a global pandemic.

Results:
1. 2019 i5 MBA: Regular, every day test - 9hrs 13m. Stuck on an international flight test, 10hrs 20m.
2. 2020 i3 MBA: Regular, every day test - 8hrs 3m. Stuck on an international flight test, 9hrs 22m.
3. 2020 i5 MBA: Regular, every day test - 6hrs 20m. Stuck on an international flight test, 7hrs 35m.

So, what does this mean for me in real life? I'm going to use pre-Corona examples. With the 2019 and the 2020 i3, that's all day battery life for me. If I'm going to a bring-your-own-device professional course (which I do frequently) where I'll be scanning through multiple PDFs, taking notes, and making slides, I don't have to worry about bringing a charger.

That isn't the case with the 2020 i5 - for me, it was 'it could be all day if I gimped everything, turned the brightness to one notch and made sure I didn't look at the computer the wrong way.' Since the 2015 MBA, I've never had to worry about hobbling the machine to ensure a full day's battery life. I know many of you are coming from a Macbook Pro where 6 hours might seem great, and if that works for you, cool. But I'm just not interested in turning off built-in essential functions like Turbo Boost to make it through the day or reduce temperatures - it shouldn't be necessary on a $1500 machine.

One of the main reasons I buy Macbook Airs is to reduce the amount of crap I have to carry around. I don't want to buy a power bank, I don't want to be playing the Hunger Games to try and get one of the few power points on the base where I work or at airport terminals, I don't want to be hunting around like Smeagol at a cafe for an abandoned USB-C charger. All day battery life is important to me, even if it might not be for you.

Appendix I: 2020 i3 vs 2019 i5 - Bootcamp - Oh, my god...
If you hate Windows and never have to use it, you can stop reading now and maybe make a separate thread about 'M$' if you feel the need.
Many of us still require Windows for a variety of reasons, and Windows 10 is closing the gap with MacOS for usability. It'll be useful info for many - certainly was for me.

Both machines are running Bootcamp Support Software 6.1 (last updated in 2019), and hoooly crap, it has not been optimised for Ice Lake processors. At. All.

The common wisdom of 'yeah your battery life will halve running Bootcamp' is something I've never found to be true on the Macbook Airs I've owned (it may be true on the Macbook Pro, I don't know). At most, I've lost an hour on my 2013, 2015 and 2019, but nothing major. They run cooler and quieter on Windows, which I've always found interesting.

Anyway - the 2019 i5 uses 0.5w of power at idle on Windows 10. The 2020 i3 uses 4.0w. This means, where the 2019 i5 could comfortably get eight hours on Bootcamp, the 2020 i3 can barely get five. Because I need Bootcamp (native Windows is a must for certain functions I perform), this sucks for me.

For the 2020 i5, things look even worse. As Notebook check noted in their review:
The idle consumption for Windows 10 (Bootcamp) is surprisingly high. The MacBook Air consumes much more power compared to macOS, so you should expect significantly shorter battery runtimes. For example: We measure idle values between 7 and 12.8 W (min - max).
The only way I could do any kind of performance test on Windows was playing the only game I use my Macbook Air for - Civ V, a ten year old game that isn't graphically intensive and doesn't rely on FPS. It ran better (at medium settings, no stuttering) on the 2019 than it did on the 2020 (low settings, stuttering).

I hardly ever play, but with Iris Plus graphics versus UHD 617 on the older model, this was very surprising. I have no doubt it's down to Apple's appalling Bootcamp drivers, but you can't put your faith in them to update them any time soon, so, be careful.

Appendix II: Competition actually exists now, it'd be great if Apple tried harder
So, why spend all this time talking about Windows and gaming? Everyone knows 'you should never game on a Macbook Air', right? Nah. I've managed plenty of gaming on the 2013, the 2015, and the 2019. You should never expect to run a game made in the last five years awesomely well, but I've been able to play non-graphically demanding games (CS:GO, Civ V, Mount and Blade Warband, Total War games) without any issues at all.

But the Macbook Air is no longer in a class of its own. With the new Ice Lake chips and Iris Plus Graphics, according to the tested benchmarks on Notebookcheck, these two new components should mean any 2020 Macbook Air configuration blows previous MBAs out of the water for graphically intensive and CPU intensive tasks. Not just low-to-mid range gaming - there are plenty of demanding things I don't do, but others might like to: video editing, or CPU/GPU intensive tasks like the great photography review we saw the other day from @fracer

Some people are heavier users. They'll look at the specs of the 2020 MBA, check the real-world performance of the CPU/GPU as tested in other devices, and think those specs will mean they can do those heavier tasks with ease. You can on the XPS 13, you can on the Surface Laptop range, you can't on a Macbook Air. The specs don't translate into real world performance on the 2020 MBA (and I don't think it's the absence of a heat pipe - extensive user tests have shown better cooling solutions, at best, add 10% sustained performance). I think this is why we've had so many users saying 'it just doesn't work like I imagined it would based on the specs.'

The i5 and i7 MBAs of 2020 are a Frankenstein's monster, somewhere between what a Macbook Air used to be and what modern non-Apple ultrabooks manage to do. For my use, this isn't a factor at all, but it might be a big factor for others. No matter the OS I tried, or the tweaks I made, you can't replicate the tested performance of the 2020 i3/i5 Ice Lake or the Iris Plus G4/G7 graphics on the Macbook Air range, compared to other notebooks that use the same family of components.

Why that is, I have no idea, especially with MacOS where the field for comparisons is so limited. On Windows, obviously Apple's had less and less incentive to optimise Bootcamp performance as MacOS has gotten more consumer uptake, but there are now real, viable alternatives to the Macbook Air. It's not the only ultraportable anymore - it might be the best overall package (that's for you to decide), but HP, Dell and Asus ultrabooks all beat it on battery life, Dell and Surface ultrabooks beat it on performance.

Maybe Apple doesn't care because they're preparing to make the 'who the hell knows if it's even happening' transition to ARM laptops, or maybe the MBA will be phased out leaving us with an iPad + keyboard and a refreshed Macbook Pro. No idea. I'm not a heavy user - see above - but for people that are, with the specs that it has, the Macbook Air should, on paper, be able to perform as well as its rivals in the category. But it doesn't.

For people who aren't wedded to a particular OS or ecosystem (like me), the Macbook Air is becoming a worse value proposition. Notebookcheck's review of the 2020 i5 goes into some of this in detail, and is the only review I've read that actually uses data to illustrate performance gaps as opposed to terms like 'snappy' and 'quick', coupled with meaningless benchmarks. If you're in the market for an ultraportable, check it out.

Should Apple care? I dunno, as long as they keep making money, probably not. But as a longtime user of the Macbook Air line, I'm hoping for a course correct in 2021 to address some of these on-paper-versus-reality gaps that I've observed in all my testing, and achieve the same performance and endurance levels of its competitors. This competition is good for consumers like us - I hope Apple is able to rise to the challenge.

Conclusion - If you're MacOS only, the 2020 i3 is about as good with heat, noise and battery life as the 2019.
It's a really great ultraportable computer. As many people have noted, the keyboard is really, really good - one of the best laptop keyboards I've used. But with an improved butterfly keyboard in 2019, and the Keyboard Repair Program, I don't think a more comfortable keyboard is worth all the extra money for very similar performance. I'll probably be hanging on to the 2019 and my partner has kept the 2020 i3 for her online classes that she teaches.

I didn't hand off the 2020 i3 because I hate it - I think it's great. But take away the keyboard, and, for my real-world use, they're essentially the same laptop - the main point of difference being that the 2019 can run Windows better. This won't be a limiting factor for most people, but it is for me.

Recommendations:

- If you're fine with the performance and keyboard of the 2019 MBA you have, consider hanging on to it. If you really want to upgrade:

- i3 if you're a light user like me who mostly uses their laptop for browsing/streaming, especially if you're coming from a Macbook Air and expecting more of the same good stuff in regards to heat/battery/noise.

- i5 if you're coming from a Macbook Pro - it's louder and hotter than all previous Macbook Airs, but it's still probably quieter and cooler than what you're used to. Reduced battery life won't be noticeable because, in all likelihood, it'll be better than what you're coming from.

- If you're even asking yourself the question 'should I get the i5 or the i7?', check out the new Macbook Pro lineup. As far as I understand it, although the base model still comes with an 8th gen Intel processor, it'll still run rings around the Macbook Air for sustained tasks and heavy duty work. Especially now that the size difference between the Air and the Pro is not that noticeable anymore, it's worth considering.

Peace! ✌
 
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What does the temp get to when watching youtube videos on Chrome. I have been hovering above 80 degrees. Think I am going to exchange for the i3.
 
I’d love to hear a comparison with Safari instead of the third party browsers.

I think @deeddawg uses Safari as their main browser on their 2020 i5, they might be able to provide a comparison?

The consensus seems to be that Safari manages CPU better and grants longer battery life than non-Apple browsers
 
I think @deeddawg uses Safari as their main browser on their 2020 i5, they might be able to provide a comparison?

The consensus seems to be that Safari manages CPU better and grants longer battery life than non-Apple browsers

I seldom watch videos of any length on my computers. My "tv watching" is via ATV4K attached to a television, and I spend very little time on youtube.com

That said, I've experimented with a couple videos - such as Alton Brown's Good Eats Reloaded - and didn't notice any fan or heat.


Just ran that video in 1080p full screen, sitting on my desk. After 20 minutes the bottom case temp is 81F (infrared thermometer) and the computer remained silent (volume muted).

Can't say what the CPU temp was, that's not a metric I measure.
 
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I seldom watch videos of any length on my computers. My "tv watching" is via ATV4K attached to a television, and I spend very little time on youtube.com

That said, I've experimented with a couple videos - such as Alton Brown's Good Eats Reloaded - and didn't notice any fan or heat.


Just ran that video in 1080p full screen, sitting on my desk. After 20 minutes the bottom case temp is 81F (infrared thermometer) and the computer remained silent (volume muted).

Can't say what the CPU temp was, that's not a metric I measure.

Cheers @deeddawg!
 
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Still using 2015 12” MacBook. Previously Mac Pro 1,1 for decade along with DIY Windows rigs.

In my experience, it takes time to see optimized drivers and OS, never ideal in first six months after release. Apple did a horrible job with the Mac Pro 4,1 2009 and yet - almost a year later - Snow Leopard 10.6.8 was well liked. But Apple wasn’t ready on day one for new Hyper-threaded chips and terrible heat issues.
 
Thanks for your review! I have been here for the last several weeks with trying to decide which route to go (2020 MBA i3, 2020 MBA i5 or Base 2020 MBP).

I am a student who works full time as well but has been looking for a new Mac since my mid 2012 MBP decidiing it was time to stop working. I reallly cant justify going the MBP route again or even upgrading to the i5. I wont touch any form of coding or video editing. Could possibly do some light photo editing but I think the i3 could handle that if need be.

The battery life is important to me too since I would use it primarly after work so 9 hours is a sweet spot for me I think.
 
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Thanks for your review! I have been here for the last several weeks with trying to decide which route to go (2020 MBA i3, 2020 MBA i5 or Base 2020 MBP).

I am a student who works full time as well but has been looking for a new Mac since my mid 2012 MBP decidiing it was time to stop working. I reallly cant justify going the MBP route again or even upgrading to the i5. I wont touch any form of coding or video editing. Could possibly do some light photo editing but I think the i3 could handle that if need be.

The battery life is important to me too since I would use it primarly after work so 9 hours is a sweet spot for me I think.

Glad it helped! I reckon you'd be able to get more than 9 hours if you used Safari by the sounds of things, but 9 hours works for me as well for a full day
 
Yeah! I would primarly be using Safari as I would still be using Chrome only on my work laptop to be honest throughout the day. I prefer Safari when using my Mac (even when the 2012 was fucntioning) so I think I would be okay so its encouraging to hear that it would possibly increase the battery life if using only Safari.

I know you used Windows in the clamshell and seemed to run into some issues but would you think regular MS Office use (even if in 365) would run into any crazy problems? and by regular meaning sorting through spreadsheets, word docs, powerpoints?
 
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I have been here for the last several weeks with trying to decide which route to go (2020 MBA i3, 2020 MBA i5 or Base 2020 MBP).
There is a rule of a thumb: MBP 15/16 for long haul 7-8 years, MBP 13 for 5-8 years, MBA for 2-5 years. On the other hand, if you buy MBA, you can upgrade every 3rd year, since you spent 2.5 times less than for MBP 16.
Here is the video i liked the most, he has also other videos about MBA. Long story short: MBA i5 is equal to MBP 13 2015 inch and better only at work which do utilize 4 cores.
 
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Yeah! I would primarly be using Safari as I would still be using Chrome only on my work laptop to be honest throughout the day. I prefer Safari when using my Mac (even when the 2012 was fucntioning) so I think I would be okay so its encouraging to hear that it would possibly increase the battery life if using only Safari.

I know you used Windows in the clamshell and seemed to run into some issues but would you think regular MS Office use (even if in 365) would run into any crazy problems? and by regular meaning sorting through spreadsheets, word docs, powerpoints?

I didn't use Windows in clamshell, I just used it as normal in a Bootcamp partition. The only main issue with Windows with the 2020 i3 was battery life - everything else worked great (and, as I mentioned, CPU temperatures were lower on Windows which resulted in less fan use and a cooler chassis - weird).
 
I didn't use Windows in clamshell, I just used it as normal in a Bootcamp partition. The only main issue with Windows with the 2020 i3 was battery life - everything else worked great (and, as I mentioned, CPU temperatures were lower on Windows which resulted in less fan use and a cooler chassis - weird).

Okay! That makes total sense. I wont work with Windows too much outside of my work laptop so I dont think this wll be too much of concern (especially since I would just be using Word. PP or Excel. Which again I think the i3 can handle.
 
Okay! That makes total sense. I wont work with Windows too much outside of my work laptop so I dont think this wll be too much of concern (especially since I would just be using Word. PP or Excel. Which again I think the i3 can handle.

Definitely - you won't have any issues running MS Office in Windows or in MacOS on the i3.
 
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Definitely - you won't have any issues running MS Office in Windows or in MacOS on the i3.

Thanks RiaKoobcam!

I really appreciate your help with helping me through this (even simply your original review) to make me go i3. It helps me save 100 bucks with going towards a external keyboard and mouse when I am using it at a desk when need be. That for me would be maybe a little unique than most So I rather save some funds that will help me make a better workspace for myself for what I have to accomplish compared to maybe others.
 
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I got the base i3 Air 2 weeks ago. I have a late 2015 27" iMac in my home/office and just wanted something portable to use around the house and patio, just for browsing, netflix/prime etc, email, pages, photos/messages etc so basic use.
Havn't heard the fans at all and doesn't get hot, a touch warm when streaming one of our free to air TV stations here.
I gave my 11" iPad to my wife and was going to get the new 12.9" and smart keyboard but here that would of been double the cost with my Telco plan. Even without a plan and just the wifi 12.9" 256GB and smart case the Air was $850AUD cheaper.
Really it's a iPad replacement for me, i really like the keyboard and track pad, and TID or the unlock with AW when i have it on. Was only $200 more than a 11" 128gb wifi iPad pro. Great value imo and also $450 cheaper than the new base model 13" MBP.
 
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So the 2019 - a decent buy refurbished from Apple ? (at around 30-37% discount, dependent on SSD, on original price)

For the things I described above (web browsing, office, streaming services/Youtube and some work through remoting to a virtual desktop) it's absolutely excellent.

The main difference between this and the 2020 i3 that I can see is the 2019 has slightly longer battery life, and it has the third generation Butterfly keyboard. I do prefer the new Magic Keyboard found on the 2020 i5 and i3s that I reviewed, but the Butterfly keyboard is not a deal breaker for me. With the keyboard replacement program (4 years of free fixes if there are issues) and promises of less failures with this generation, I'm happy with it. That said, we'll see how I feel in a year's time 😁

The 2019 is also slightly thinner and lighter, but you're only able to notice it if you're holding them in either hand really. I'd say the 2019 is still a great buy as long as you try the keyboard first - it seems to be really polarising

As far as performance goes, I don't do anything processor intensive enough to have noticed a real world difference between the 2019, the 2020 i3 and the 2020 i5. I didn't run any benchmarks etc as they don't make any difference to how I use my computer. Apps seemed to open as quickly, large spreadsheets seemed to scroll just fine.

Main difference for me (as in my review) is that the 2019 and the i3 seem to handle the heat of video calls and occasional gaming with less fan noise/case heat than the i5, but it's not like the i5 delivers a better video call (same camera) or suddenly becomes a 50% better gaming laptop, so that became a null factor for me.

If you really love Zoom backgrounds though, that does require a quad core, which the i5 can do but the 2019 and the 2020 i3 can't :p
 
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For the things I described above (web browsing, office, streaming services/Youtube and some work through remoting to a virtual desktop) it's absolutely excellent.

The main difference between this and the 2020 i3 that I can see is the 2019 has slightly longer battery life, and it has the third generation Butterfly keyboard. I do prefer the new Magic Keyboard found on the 2020 i5 and i3s that I reviewed, but the Butterfly keyboard is not a deal breaker for me. With the keyboard replacement program (4 years of free fixes if there are issues) and promises of less failures with this generation, I'm happy with it. That said, we'll see how I feel in a year's time 😁

The 2019 is also slightly thinner and lighter, but you're only able to notice it if you're holding them in either hand really. I'd say the 2019 is still a great buy as long as you try the keyboard first - it seems to be really polarising

As far as performance goes, I don't do anything processor intensive to have noticed a real world difference between the 2019, the 2020 i3 and the 2020 i5. I didn't run any benchmarks etc as they don't make any difference to how I use my computer. Apps seemed to open as quickly, large spreadsheets seemed to scroll just fine.

Main difference for me (as in my review) is that the 2019 and the i3 seem to handle the heat of video calls and occasional gaming with less fan noise/case heat than the i5, but it's not like the i5 delivers a better video call (same camera) or suddenly becomes a 50% better gaming laptop, so that became a null factor for me.
Ok, thanks and for the original report - very informative. Little chance of trying out the keyboard before purchase at the moment unfortunately, but you can return Apple Refurbished purchases so there’s always that I suppose.
 
Ok, thanks and for the original report - very informative. Little chance of trying out the keyboard before purchase at the moment unfortunately, but you can return Apple Refurbished purchases so there’s always that I suppose.

Yeah I didn't know about the Apple Returns program but it's super easy, so if you get it and decide you hate it, you can always send it back (my refund was done in maybe seven days from dropping it off)
 
I think I am 90% sure I am going to go with the basic i3 because I really don't do anything more than surf the web and stream videos. Although, do you think I should upgrade the ram on the i3 to 16gb or stick with the 8gb on the base model? Thanks.
 
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I think I am 90% sure I am going to go with the basic i3 because I really don't do anything more than surf the web and stream videos. Although, do you think I should upgrade the ram on the i3 to 16gb or stick with the 8gb on the base model? Thanks.

For the stated usage a 16GB upgrade would be a waste of money.
 
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I think I am 90% sure I am going to go with the basic i3 because I really don't do anything more than surf the web and stream videos. Although, do you think I should upgrade the ram on the i3 to 16gb or stick with the 8gb on the base model? Thanks.

I agree with @deeddawg - the only argument I've seen for upgrading to 16gb ram on a light workload is 'future proofing' - basically making sure that your computer has enough ram if developers make apps that are increasingly memory hungry.

I don't know about that one. Most customers buy the base configuration of 8gb, and even the new Pros are being sold with that amount as standard. I think Apple will continue developing for that memory standard and most major developers would be shooting themselves in the foot if they didn't, I think you'll be fine with 8
 
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I got the base i3 Air 2 weeks ago. I have a late 2015 27" iMac in my home/office and just wanted something portable to use around the house and patio, just for browsing, netflix/prime etc, email, pages, photos/messages etc so basic use.
Havn't heard the fans at all and doesn't get hot, a touch warm when streaming one of our free to air TV stations here.
I gave my 11" iPad to my wife and was going to get the new 12.9" and smart keyboard but here that would of been double the cost with my Telco plan. Even without a plan and just the wifi 12.9" 256GB and smart case the Air was $850AUD cheaper.
Really it's a iPad replacement for me, i really like the keyboard and track pad, and TID or the unlock with AW when i have it on. Was only $200 more than a 11" 128gb wifi iPad pro. Great value imo and also $450 than the new base model 13" MBP.
How do you feel the performance compares to your iMac?
 
I'm a light user, browsing and youtube, although I use chrome with multiple tabs, as I find safari to be slow on the mac. Have been using a 11 inch MBA 2013 for the last 7 years, but I want the retina screen now.

I am considering between the MBA i3 or the base MBP 13. The most important for me is the laptop is cool and quiet to use, sitting on the sofa or in bed.

As I like to use chrome, should I be buying the base MBP instead of the MBA ?
 
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