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Safari for Windows Marketshare Triples

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Net Applications reports that the latest version of Safari has seen a significant uptick in usage amongst Windows users.

Safari on Windows has never gained much marketshare, previously peaking at 0.07% of users. That number increased to as high as 0.21% of users after the release of Safari 3.1. Net Applications attributes the rise in usage to Apple's distribution of Safari through their Software Update.

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0.21%..... since safari as a whole dropped 0.31%, should I take it as it lost 0.44% share on OSX? Consider OSX's market share in NA's data base of 7%, this translate into a 5% loss for safari on OSX. ......

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LOL, read too much into nothing.

NA shows everybody dropped, except IE, who gained ~1%, and mostly from IE6!!! this is interesting. How much can I trust it now?

PS. NA also shows OSX lost 0.5% to 7%, while windows gain 0.4%. OSX reaches TOP?
 
TheSpecialist said:
I disagree. I think Safari is faster in loading and definitely startup time. I also have Firefox 3 on my PC and Safari is definitely faster here.
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Its not likely for a forcely ported app to be faster than native ones on windows, well, can't rule out exceptions tho, like your situation :)
 
clevin said:
Its not likely for a forcely ported app to be faster than native ones on windows, well, can't rule out exceptions tho, like your situation :)
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Which one are you describing as "forcely ported"? Neither one is overtly "native".
 
batchtaster said:
Which one are you describing as "forcely ported"? Neither one appears to be overtly "native".
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oh, the one that packed with its own font AA and animation core. Maybe firefox isn't as native as IE (if you just think javascript drawing UI is so un-native...), but it sure is MUCH more native than safari on windows. You really can't find another more un-native browser than safari on windows.:)
 
I don't know that more marketshare attributed to a semi-forced download is a good thing...
 
I don't agree with Apple "updating" software that isn't installed. That being said though, people still have to double-click that little Safari icon to use it--and then keep using it for trends to change.

I still love my Firefox, it's all I use on all my boxes--Windows, Mac and Linux. The only reason I use Firefox and nothing else is my sole extension, AdBlock Plus. I really don't care about the browser, it's the same Internet, but those ads kill me!
 
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I love safari on my mac, but on windows it's horrible: it looks ugly and feels clunky.
 
0.21 % is not great, but it's a start. If we go by that arstechnica graph that shows Safari 3/Mac adoption after it was released in October it could take 2 more months until Apple's "Safari for Windows pushing scheme" comes to full effect. Could we see 0.5 % market share in the June statistics?
 
So what...

Yeah...it reminds me of a triple of nothing is still nothing.

And considering the browser situation on Windows: I really don't like any browser currently. Safari is so poorly coded, that I have to close it down every hour or so. (btw same applies to OS X - when will Apple get rid of that bloody memory leak?).

Firefox behaves so goddamn stupid on AutoFill. It just plainly sucks, that you have to choose your option with the TAB-key instead of the Return-key. And Firefox's constant updating scheme is also annoying. Heck - check my bloody extensions one time and be done with it. If the extension isn't supported anymore, stop checking.

Basically (preparing to run like hell) the new IE kind of feels like the best experience in Windows. At least for me...and yes, I feel ashamed.

Maybe I should go back to Opera. Last time I used it was in the late 90s, and in my perception the old Opera still tops all todays browsers. :eek:
 
swagi said:
Basically (preparing to run like hell) the new IE kind of feels like the best experience in Windows. At least for me...and yes, I feel ashamed.
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It isn't too bad once you add in an ad blocker such as ie7 pro (it's free) although I still feel that firefox is superior for overall speed, its just that until ff3 goes final I don't want to install it (plus its got a stupid address bar without a plugin) :)
 
swagi said:
Firefox behaves so goddamn stupid on AutoFill. It just plainly sucks, that you have to choose your option with the TAB-key instead of the Return-key.
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did you open autocomplete through
about:config
and double click to toggle the value of browser.urlbar.autoFill to true?
 

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Buggy

It hasn't been until Safari 3.1 that I could semi-reliably use the browser at work. We have a Microsoft ActiveDirectory-authenticated proxy server which consistently crashed previous Safari versions.

Now it only occasionally crashes -- a bit more than IE and Firefox crashes on the same computer.

I hate Windows. :D
 
Phil A. said:
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I love safari on my mac, but on windows it's horrible: it looks ugly and feels clunky.
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Really? I love it on my windows machine! :D Maybe it's because I am anxiously awaiting a Mac, and this feels closer than the other crap on my Toshiba!

aarond12 said:
It hasn't been until Safari 3.1 that I could semi-reliably use the browser at work. We have a Microsoft ActiveDirectory-authenticated proxy server which consistently crashed previous Safari versions.

Now it only occasionally crashes -- a bit more than IE and Firefox crashes on the same computer.

I hate Windows. :D
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I agree with all of that. It used to crash all the time, in Safari 2.whatever, and 3.0. But now, on my windows machine, it is consistently stable, and runs great (i use it as my primary browser :D), and the only issue i have is the memory leak. Otherwise I love it!
 
k2spitfire88 said:
Really? I love it on my windows machine! :D Maybe it's because I am anxiously awaiting a Mac, and this feels closer than the other crap on my Toshiba!

I agree with all of that. It used to crash all the time, in Safari 2.whatever, and 3.0. But now, on my windows machine, it is consistently stable, and runs great (i use it as my primary browser :D), and the only issue i have is the memory leak. Otherwise I love it!
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I C, if you can tolerate the shortcomes of safari for windows, trust me, you will love it when you get your mac.

PS, when you gonna get it?:)
 
clevin said:
I C, if you can tolerate the shortcomes of safari for windows, trust me, you will love it when you get your mac.

PS, when you gonna get it?:)
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This summer, when i get the money, and then after the revision. Blackbook, or whatever the equivalent is. I have used it on a few dual G5 powermac's, running Tiger at school, and I loved it!
 
jlanuez said:
Is Safari or Firefox faster to load itself and load web pages?
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If you are comparing release versions, Safari is at 3 and Firefox is at 2.

In that case Safari is faster, by quite a distance.

Compare Firefox 3 and Safari 3 and it gets closer.

But a lot of people still use Firefox 2 for the plugins / extensions which aren't yet compatible with Firefox 3.

Safari 3 is very stable in Vista. The fact it actually renders text which looks better than IE and Firefox on my screen is not a shortcoming (More noticable with larger font sizes, these look jagged in the other two).
 
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