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Safari tabs just disappear when moving them between windows

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NorCalZman

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Jul 4, 2010
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Hi Gang

MAC OS 12.6 2021 Intel iMAC

I just noticed when clicking and dragging my tabs and attempting to move them to a new safari window to try and organize them better, they just disappeared when I released them onto the tab bar of the new window.

Is there a bug?
Am I not remembered how to do it correctly?
etc etc
 
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Thanks! Looks like a similar but slightly different scenario for the same bug. so, moving tabs from window to window seems to be very broken. Ugh. such a basic/useful feature too.
 
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I'm having this problem too, and Safari randomly crashes constantly. It just won't load anything as if I have no internet, but no other browser does this. Apple is going downhill fast. Tim Cook belongs in jail.
 
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Safari 16.1 has been released for Monterey and Big Sur https://support.apple.com/kb/HT213495

Edit:
The tabs no longer disappear :)
Link for the Monterey Safari 16.1
Code: 
https://swcdn.apple.com/content/downloads/04/41/012-89022-A_0O25N5267C/8vvwcsyap2nweiiv95zrqleofs2283yaa2/Safari16.1MontereyAuto.pkg
 
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just happened again using macOS 13 Ventura with safari 16.1 its not fixed, it happened when I was watching YouTube and opened a new tab and dragged it out of the window and it done it again. still happening why hasn't this been fixed
 
Not fixed with Ventura and Safari 16.1 - Apple is getting worse with these bugs. This is a big one.
 
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To be honest I've been using the 16.1 betas on Monterey and the issue wasn't fixed at all. I really don't know if the issue is fixed on the stable, but my impression is that the issue with the tabs is not fixed at all.

What worries me is that @eflx is saying that in Ventura the issue isn't fixed either. I was thinking that perhaps was an issue specific to Monterrey / Big Sur because safari had some changes to adapt to Ventura that caused the issue on the previous release… but it seems that it not the case.

I don't know why Apple is not more careful with this.

Have you reported this?

I have a call with a senior advisor related to a Mail app issue and I probably will also mention this. The only way to get this issue fixed is to nag Apple about them.
 
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Is there any chance you are working with tabs in a tab group? If so, it seems a likely contributor to the bug.

All the windows stay synchronized when modifying tabs in a tab group. If I'm dragging from one window to another (and doing so within one or two tab groups), both windows have to go through two changes simultaneously, adding a tab and removing a tab. Concurrent changes often result in bugs due to the randomness of timing.
 
Monterey Safari 16.1 user here. This is definitely not fixed, and is nearly the most annoying bug I've ever encountered on my Mac. You cannot move tabs between windows without losing them. I used to do this all the time between the window on my MacBook and the window on my external display. Now I have to cut the URL from one tab, close the tab, open a new tab on the other window, and paste in the URL. It's ridiculous and it's driving me nuts.
 
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I've also noticed that Safari 16.1 doesn't load the favicons of some websites any more. I find that annoying, too, because the little icons are quite helpful to quickly find a tab.

I've tried emptying all caches, but the issue persisted.
 
melodibit said:
Monterey Safari 16.1 user here. This is definitely not fixed, and is nearly the most annoying bug I've ever encountered on my Mac. You cannot move tabs between windows without losing them. I used to do this all the time between the window on my MacBook and the window on my external display. Now I have to cut the URL from one tab, close the tab, open a new tab on the other window, and paste in the URL. It's ridiculous and it's driving me nuts.
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Does it work if both windows have the tab bars showing? It seems to for me. I admit I've only done limited testing for the sake of this thread.

If that works for you, you can set "Always Show Tab Bar" in the View menu. It does waste space if you only have a single tab open. You can also just hit command-t to make a single new tab in the target window before you drop the tab you want to move onto that window.
 
svenmany said:
Does it work if both windows have the tab bars showing? It seems to for me. I admit I've only done limited testing for the sake of this thread.

If that works for you, you can set "Always Show Tab Bar" in the View menu. It does waste space if you only have a single tab open. You can also just hit command-t to make a single new tab in the target window before you drop the tab you want to move onto that window.
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That's an interesting question. I use the Compact rather than the Separate view, so "Always Show Tab Bar" is irrelevant and actually grayed out. Unfortunately, for the moment, I find I'm unable to reproduce the problem (even in compact mode). It's working fine now for no clear reason. If the problem recurs, I'll try switching back to separate mode, and if that doesn't fix it, I'll try turning on "always show". Thanks for the idea.
 
melodibit said:
That's an interesting question. I use the Compact rather than the Separate view, so "Always Show Tab Bar" is irrelevant and actually grayed out. Unfortunately, for the moment, I find I'm unable to reproduce the problem (even in compact mode). It's working fine now for no clear reason. If the problem recurs, I'll try switching back to separate mode, and if that doesn't fix it, I'll try turning on "always show". Thanks for the idea.
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Alright, the problem resumed today in compact mode. I switched to separate mode and enabled Always Show Tab Bar. The problem remains. *sigh*
 
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