Safe amount of available storage in 32GB Apple TV

[melapple]

Currently have 1GB of available space on my Apple TV according to an app I've installed.
Is this to small an mount to operate the Apple TV ?

 

[chabig]

It’s your AppleTV. Is it operating normally?

 

[BODYBUILDERPAUL]

WOW! What have you filled it up with?
It should not be a problem as the 4K ATV does not cache 4K films in the way that the older boxes did PLUS I guess that if it does temporarily need any more space, it will temporarily remove the screensavers or larger apps? from it.
Have you done a restart to clear anything out?

I bought the 64GB ATV4K and so i've got tons of space to play around with After fighting for storage space on iPhones & MacBooks for years on a daily basis, I now buy as large a storage option as I can

 

[Andrewtst]

WOW! What have you filled it up with?
It should not be a problem as the 4K ATV does not cache 4K films in the way that the older boxes did PLUS I guess that if it does temporarily need any more space, it will temporarily remove the screensavers or larger apps? from it.
Have you done a restart to clear anything out?

I bought the 64GB ATV4K and so i've got tons of space to play around with After fighting for storage space on iPhones & MacBooks for years on a daily basis, I now buy as large a storage option as I can

Actually is Apple issue, their screen saver is too big and cannot manual remove, they only remove when needs space I think.

Mine don't have a lot apps and few games only, but my space only left around 4GB now. I should buy 64GB last time. Haha!

 

[Juicy Box]

I have a lot of experience with this issue.

I won't go into a lot of detail, but basically, the tvOS will cache data for a lot of apps, and then free data when it is needed.

I would bet that is what is happening with the OP. 32GB is probably perfectly fine for most people, although 32GB ATV can get filled.

I purchased a 64GB ATV4 at launch, and even though I have a lot of apps installed, I never have ran out of space. I will say that the 64GB ATV4 slows down a lot and crashes more often with more apps installed, especially if you use a bunch of apps in a short period of time.

I got a free 32GB ATV4K with the DirectTV Now promotion, but I was unable to use it as it was perpetually full and I was unable to install new apps. I have since gave it away to my parents.

Currently have 1GB of available space on my Apple TV according to an app I've installed.

How do you know you only have 1GB free? This is most likely including cached data, so if you download another app, your OS would free up more space, and you will most likely have more available data even though you are downloading more apps.

It’s your AppleTV. Is it operating normally?

To the OP: this is pretty much the key. Is the ATV operating normally? or are you having extreme slowdowns and app crashes, or messages stating that there is no available space?

I now buy as large a storage option as I can

This is pretty much what I do for most of my Apple products, especially iPhones. I have never had too much storage available with Apple devices, but there has been many times that I did not have enough.

 

[steve62388]

Actually is Apple issue, their screen saver is too big and cannot manual remove, they only remove when needs space I think.

Mine don't have a lot apps and few games only, but my space only left around 4GB now. I should buy 64GB last time. Haha!

How many is ‘don’t have a lot’ and ‘few’?

 

[Andrewtst]

How do you know you only have 1GB free? This is most likely including cached data, so if you download another app, your OS would free up more space, and you will most likely have more available data even though you are downloading more apps..

You can seen the available space if you have connected your Apple TV 4K to macOS using xcode.

How many is ‘don’t have a lot’ and ‘few’?

I only have 6 games and apps around 2 or 3 page scrolls.

 

[Juicy Box]

I only have 6 games and apps around 2 or 3 page scrolls.

This doesn't seem like much, as I have many, many games.

You can seen the available space if you have connected your Apple TV 4K to macOS using xcode.

I do not have an ATV4K anymore, so I can't check, does the Xcode show available space minus any cached data?

I have a USB A to C cable around somewhere, maybe I will check it out on my ATV4 later.

 

[Andrewtst]

This doesn't seem like much, as I have many, many games.



I do not have an ATV4K anymore, so I can't check, does the Xcode show available space minus any cached data?

I have a USB A to C cable around somewhere, maybe I will check it out on my ATV4 later.

They only show available space how many. No details on it.

 

[d21mike]

Do you have iCloud Photos On? It appears to download all of them while you have room. If you want to see actual usage turn that off for a bit.

 

[melapple]

I have a lot of experience with this issue.

I won't go into a lot of detail, but basically, the tvOS will cache data for a lot of apps, and then free data when it is needed.

I would bet that is what is happening with the OP. 32GB is probably perfectly fine for most people, although 32GB ATV can get filled.

I purchased a 64GB ATV4 at launch, and even though I have a lot of apps installed, I never have ran out of space. I will say that the 64GB ATV4 slows down a lot and crashes more often with more apps installed, especially if you use a bunch of apps in a short period of time.

I got a free 32GB ATV4K with the DirectTV Now promotion, but I was unable to use it as it was perpetually full and I was unable to install new apps. I have since gave it away to my parents.


How do you know you only have 1GB free? This is most likely including cached data, so if you download another app, your OS would free up more space, and you will most likely have more available data even though you are downloading more apps.



To the OP: this is pretty much the key. Is the ATV operating normally? or are you having extreme slowdowns and app crashes, or messages stating that there is no available space?


This is pretty much what I do for most of my Apple products, especially iPhones. I have never had too much storage available with Apple devices, but there has been many times that I did not have enough.

As I mentioned the 1GB space I see available on my 4th gen Apple TV is through an app showing available storage. Whether or not it's accurate I don't know.
Currently it's working fine I think. If some slowdowns are caused by the old hardware or by the small amount of storage available it's hard to tell. I've only installed many TV apps from several countries through the various apple stores. Most of these are smaller than 50MB so I doubt these can fill 28Gb by themselves.
Perhaps I should change screensaver settings so it's not set to daily download like now? Also maybe I streamed too many 1080p movies from iTunes?
Any help/opinion is appreciated
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Do you have iCloud Photos On? It appears to download all of them while you have room. If you want to see actual usage turn that off for a bit.

No, I don't

 

[Juicy Box]

As I mentioned the 1GB space I see available on my 4th gen Apple TV is through an app showing available storage.

This is normal. It is just cached data that the OS will discard once that space is needed.

Since you are not experiencing any problems with your ATV, I wouldn't worry about what that app says, because it will not give you accurate data anyway.

 

[melapple]

This is normal. It is just cached data that the OS will discard once that space is needed.

Since you are not experiencing any problems with your ATV, I wouldn't worry about what that app says, because it will not give you accurate data anyway.

Thank you. I'm deleting unused apps anyway to make room for new ones

 

[Juicy Box]

I'm deleting unused apps anyway to make room for new ones

I really don't think that deleting your apps is necessary. That app that tells you the free storage space is not accurate at all, as it includes cached data that is automatically removed by the OS when space is needed.

Of course, it is your device, and do what you want, but if you are not having any problem with the ATV, there is no reason to delete apps just to make room for more apps.

You mentioned that you had like 6 games on your ATV, this is not very much at all. I have literal hundreds of games on my 64GB ATV4, and I have not ran out of space yet.

I did fill up a 32GB ATV4k, but this is with many, many more apps than you have.

Again, it is your device, so do what you want with it, but I wouldn't delete apps just because you are trying to free up space.

If you start having slowdowns, or messages saying your storage is full, then it might be time to free up some space.

 

[melapple]

I really don't think that deleting your apps is necessary. That app that tells you the free storage space is not accurate at all, as it includes cached data that is automatically removed by the OS when space is needed.

Of course, it is your device, and do what you want, but if you are not having any problem with the ATV, there is no reason to delete apps just to make room for more apps.

You mentioned that you had like 6 games on your ATV, this is not very much at all. I have literal hundreds of games on my 64GB ATV4, and I have not ran out of space yet.

I did fill up a 32GB ATV4k, but this is with many, many more apps than you have.

Again, it is your device, so do what you want with it, but I wouldn't delete apps just because you are trying to free up space.

If you start having slowdowns, or messages saying your storage is full, then it might be time to free up some space.

Actually I have installed just one game but thank you sharing your opinion. It turns out now that I've installed tvOS 12, my available space is a whopping 15GB. Guess there was a lot of unused cached stuff. Hopefully this new os manages space and screensavers better than the previous one