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Sandy Bridge, SATA & Apple (Post your specs)

What is the LINK speed of your SATA ports (Hard Drive | Optical Drive) and Date

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Dwalls90

Dwalls90

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Due to the nature of issues with Sandy Bridge, Apple would have had to delay 2011 Macbook Pro production. However, they avoided this by "using chips that had been fixed". In reality, they stuck initial MBP buyers with a 3Gb/s Speed for an optical drive speed, and more recently produced (but SAME model nonetheless) MBP users with a 6Gb/s speed for optical drives. In order to establish the extent to which this occurred, please select the LINK speeds of your Hard drive and optical drive above, and the MONTH of purchase.

As a reminder, PLEASE USE THE POLL (in addition to posting if you so chose to do so :))

Thank you!
 
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Its not that clear cut...people who recently bought are also still sporting SATA II optical ports. There is no clear pattern.
 
Rename this post as cancelled and make another one with a POLL with two options, 3/2 and 3/3 relating to sata ports speed (sata 3 and sata2). Everybody has time to click a poll, but not to post and to post in english.

.. if you want to have more accurate results...

My ports are 3/2 and I bought it the day of the presentation.
 
15 inch 2.2 Hi-res anti glare ordered from the online Apple Store on 5/15.
3Gbs link in the optical drive.

I think I am going to return it and try my luck again. I definitely see myself wanting dual SATA 3 drives at some point.
 
Or put these options:

3/2 before may 24
3/3 before may 24

3/2 after may 24
3/3 after may 24
 
pedrofan said:
Rename this post as cancelled and make another one with a POLL with two options, 3/2 and 3/3 relating to sata ports speed (sata 3 and sata2). Everybody has time to click a poll, but not to post and to post in english.

.. if you want to have more accurate results...
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+1 poll would be better
 
Mine says 3 Gigaibt HDD /1.5 Gigabit ODD. Base 13" 2011 bought it on April.
 

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My info:

Intel 6 Series Chipset:

Vendor: Intel
Product: 6 Series Chipset
Link Speed: 6 Gigabit
Negotiated Link Speed: 3 Gigabit
Description: AHCI Version 1.30 Supported
 
Thank you for responding thus far. As a reminder, PLEASE USE THE POLL (in addition to posting if you so chose to do so :))
 
Dwalls90 said:
Due to the nature of issues with Sandy Bridge, Apple would have had to delay 2011 Macbook Pro production. However, they avoided this by "using chips that had been fixed". In reality, they stuck initial MBP buyers with a 3Gb/s Speed for an optical drive speed, and more recently produced (but SAME model nonetheless) MBP users with a 6Gb/s speed for optical drives. In order to establish the extent to which this occurred, please select the NEGOTIATED speeds of your Hard drive and optical drive above, and the MONTH of purchase.
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Not really. They always intended to use 3GB/s for the Optical drive. The 2 6GB/s Channels were never affected thus if Apple would have used SATA 3 for both ports in the first place there would never have been any problem. Only sata 2 port were affected and if recall correctly only 2 of those but the one for the optical drive was probably among them. The issue only occurs after some time and heavy use with the optical drive only it would never have been any issue at all.
If they use Sata 3 now on both it must be for some other reason (as now all ports work) maybe because they figured it doesn't shed a good light on their product if one port that can be used for a second SSD is an old one when it could be a new one. Maybe they never thought it an issue before and the 3GB/s might save power or something.
 
And if the negotiated speed does not mach any of the options in the poll?

I have 3 Gigabit negotiated on my hard drive and 1.5 Gigabit negotiated on my SuperDrive.

You didn't mean negotiated speed, did you?
 
JTToft said:
And if the negotiated speed does not mach any of the options in the poll?

I have 3 Gigabit negotiated on my hard drive and 1.5 Gigabit negotiated on my SuperDrive.
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I'm the same, mine was bought in May and was made about 10 weeks ago (15" MBP)
 
JTToft said:
And if the negotiated speed does not mach any of the options in the poll?

I have 3 Gigabit negotiated on my hard drive and 1.5 Gigabit negotiated on my SuperDrive.

You didn't mean negotiated speed, did you?
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I stand corrected, in my flurry to post the poll I asked for negotiated not LINK. Updated initial post and will have mod update poll.

dusk007 said:
Not really. They always intended to use 3GB/s for the Optical drive. The 2 6GB/s Channels were never affected thus if Apple would have used SATA 3 for both ports in the first place there would never have been any problem. Only sata 2 port were affected and if recall correctly only 2 of those but the one for the optical drive was probably among them. The issue only occurs after some time and heavy use with the optical drive only it would never have been any issue at all.
If they use Sata 3 now on both it must be for some other reason (as now all ports work) maybe because they figured it doesn't shed a good light on their product if one port that can be used for a second SSD is an old one when it could be a new one. Maybe they never thought it an issue before and the 3GB/s might save power or something.
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Yes, we all know the story, thank you for detailing it all out again. Either way, it's wrong that the are selling a superior product now, that is being marketed as the same product and price point.
 
Dwalls90 said:
I stand corrected, in my flurry to post the poll I asked for negotiated not LINK.
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- I thought so. In that case, I have 6 Gigabit on my hard drive and 3 Gigabit on my SuperDrive.

My computer was purchased on February 26 2011. While you're at it, you should have a February option added to the poll. :)
 
JTToft said:
- I thought so. In that case, I have 6 Gigabit on my hard drive and 3 Gigabit on my SuperDrive.

My computer was purchased on February 26 2011. While you're at it, you should have a February option added to the poll. :)
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There was one week at the end of February when they could have been ordered, and an even smaller time window for in store purchases, so because it's such a small time-frame, I'm inclined to combine it with March for simplicity.
 
Mine was purchased two weeks ago (tomorrow) and has 6Gbps on the HD and 3Gbps on the optical. According to Coconut Battery, my 15"MBP is around 10 weeks old.
 
fat jez said:
Mine was purchased two weeks ago (tomorrow) and has 6Gbps on the HD and 3Gbps on the optical. According to Coconut Battery, my 15"MBP is around 10 weeks old.
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Can you put that into the poll please!
 
I don't think we're going to see much different from 6Gbps for the HD link (sata port 0) and 3Gbps for the optical link (sata port 2). You'd only see 6Gbps for both if Apple has connected the superdrive to Sata Port 1.
 
xxBURT0Nxx said:
what about mbp's purchased in feb?
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I'm pooling those to March, since they were released on February 24, and that leaves only 5 days in February for ordering online and even less time for in store purchases.

fat jez said:
I don't think we're going to see much different from 6Gbps for the HD link (sata port 0) and 3Gbps for the optical link (sata port 2). You'd only see 6Gbps for both if Apple has connected the superdrive to Sata Port 1.
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That's irrelevant. It matters because if you pay for the same product you should be given the same specs as someone who buys the same product a week later. Beyond that, for SSD aftermarket installations - it DOES matter, as SATA 3 drives can saturate 6Gb/s.
 
Dwalls90 said:
I'm pooling those to March, since they were released on February 24, and that leaves only 5 days in February for ordering online and even less time for in store purchases.
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umm how is that less time for ordering in stores? You could get them in stores on the 24th, I bought a new mbp in Feb of this year... but whatever i guess i'll use march
 
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