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Well, what games are you playing? The M1 cannot play everything under the sun yet. In fact, even games made for MacOS may not run well (or at all). Rosetta 2 still has some compatibility issues.
Also if you get the MacBook Air, it'll throttle performance after 10 minutes, and the overall performance of the system may not be able to keep up with more demanding games like... StarCraft 2 for instance.
Also if you get the MacBook Air, it'll throttle performance after 10 minutes, and the overall performance of the system may not be able to keep up with more demanding games like... StarCraft 2 for instance.
I'd get a Mac mini for sustained performance. You really do need some sort of cooling when doing gaming and it's least likely to spin up it's fans due to the envelope it is working in. The MacBook Pro has been shown to get hot already. The MacBook Air probably has to throttle down because it has no cooling.
I suspect you are only looking at laptops though.
I suspect you are only looking at laptops though.
Go for MBP M1 with 16GB. Just returned my mbp16 for that. I don’t game but I do video editing. MBP even with fan is always silent and run cool. And it will be cheaper than your current one. I always wanted a 13 inch that I could edit on. I travelled with the 16 inch and find heavy and big but loved it when using at home.
Send it back! Sent back my mbp 2020 16gb for a m1 16gb mbp.
can’t believe I thought of “settling”
can’t believe I thought of “settling”
I went through three 16” MBP - same configuration as yours. All 3 had coil whine from the SSD. Cost of the machine was $7500 AUD. I returned all 3. Instead, ive just ordered two 13” MBP M1 - and it’s still about $1000 cheaper!
I wish I can send back my 16" MBP but it's been a year and thought I would like it for the long run but it's such a heater (thigh burner) that I had to keep a cooling fan underneath to keep it from getting too hot.
Can't believe I spent $2400+ on the MBP when I could have gotten at decked out 13" M1 MBP and had money left for a gigantic screen....
My M1 Mini which is replacing a quad core i7 is just short of amazing!
Can't believe I spent $2400+ on the MBP when I could have gotten at decked out 13" M1 MBP and had money left for a gigantic screen....
My M1 Mini which is replacing a quad core i7 is just short of amazing!
That's funny - yes at that time last year, the 16" MBP was fast but this M1 seems to be so much more and quicker and cooler!But when you bought the 16 silicon mac didn't exist a year ago. So you had one of the most powerful laptop, even until now you still do.
At least you get to have the Mini M1
With the M1 Mini to see the differences, my Intel 16" MBP is a joke!
Compared to my 2012 Intel i7 quad core Mini Server that was a BTO which ran like a champ with 16GB RAM and very hot to run w/ fan running at all speeds. Even had it sitting on a cooling fan to keep it from overheating and slowing down....
This M1 Mini (base) just runs so much cooler, no fan noise, apps are smoother, faster, quick to open and no more beachball spins.
I can't wait to get rid of the i7 now...
I bought an MBP16 (i9, 32GB, 1TB, 5500M 8GB) which cost me about AU$5000, but I'm going to keep it, and have ordered an M1 Mini (16GB/512GB) to try it out.
My reasons?
The MBP is my primary work computer (DevOps, productivity software, video conferencing/live streaming, and video editing) and I don't want to risk coming up with a "gotcha" for some piece of software that I use not working on AS. Developer tools are a good example - I use a lot of command-line tools and Docker, and these do not all work on Apple Silicon.
The Mini looks like it is a good entry-point into the platform for experimentation and long-term assessment without spending a lot of money or risking problems as a primary work machine. It looks like it should do a good job for video editing too.
The M1 MacBook Pro may be "about as good" as my MBP16 (slightly faster for some tasks but slightly weaker GPU), so there's not a really compelling argument for swapping to the M1 MBP on performance grounds. I'm working at home full time these days, with no overseas or interstate travel, so battery life is not a primary concern.
I'll wait for a new MBP14 to come out with an improved "M1X"/"M2" SoC that demonstrates clear improvements over the current M1 MBP and my MBP16. Hopefully, this will be at or before WWDC 2021, by which time I might be back to mobile work where a smaller machine with longer battery life will be useful.
My reasons?
The MBP is my primary work computer (DevOps, productivity software, video conferencing/live streaming, and video editing) and I don't want to risk coming up with a "gotcha" for some piece of software that I use not working on AS. Developer tools are a good example - I use a lot of command-line tools and Docker, and these do not all work on Apple Silicon.
The Mini looks like it is a good entry-point into the platform for experimentation and long-term assessment without spending a lot of money or risking problems as a primary work machine. It looks like it should do a good job for video editing too.
The M1 MacBook Pro may be "about as good" as my MBP16 (slightly faster for some tasks but slightly weaker GPU), so there's not a really compelling argument for swapping to the M1 MBP on performance grounds. I'm working at home full time these days, with no overseas or interstate travel, so battery life is not a primary concern.
I'll wait for a new MBP14 to come out with an improved "M1X"/"M2" SoC that demonstrates clear improvements over the current M1 MBP and my MBP16. Hopefully, this will be at or before WWDC 2021, by which time I might be back to mobile work where a smaller machine with longer battery life will be useful.
At least for USA buyers, Apple has extended the return period to January 8th, 2021. Since you wish to try an M1 Mac, you should consider just buying one right now and testing it out for longer than the typical two-week return window.
I saw some people complained about the fan noise after doing heavy taxes like 15-20 mins with the new mbp?
In my country they also extended the return period but my original 16” order was made in back on September but the last replacement I received was 19th of November .Do you think I also have the same option?
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Yes This is also my 3rd replacement device .I can’t stand for a premium device that has coil whine and fan noise that’s why I want a silent and a cooler machine
I have no idea. Ask your country's Apple customer service staff.
Note that you didn't even bother to mention where you are. How the hell would anyone here know?
I’m not sure about the MacBook Air, however the Pro is chewing through games like a champion. Only after 20-30 minutes of playing Diablo III do the fans FAINTLY come on. And this is running using Rosetta 2 no less. Settings are on maximum minus anti-aliasing. No hiccups. And that goes for a ton of games.
I’ve been contributing to this list of Mac games, check it out for yourself:
Games on Apple Silicon
This thing is good. Real good. And once games start being written for Apple Silicon natively, it will get even better.
Where I was once speculative about performance or developer support, I can see that on both accounts - I was wrong.
Thanks i will check outI’m not sure about the MacBook Air, however the Pro is chewing through games like a champion. Only after 20-30 minutes of playing Diablo III do the fans FAINTLY come on. And this is running using Rosetta 2 no less. Settings are on maximum minus anti-aliasing. No hiccups. And that goes for a ton of games.
I’ve been contributing to this list of Mac games, check it out for yourself:
Games on Apple Silicon
docs.google.com
This thing is good. Real good. And once games start being written for Apple Silicon natively, it will get even better.
Where I was once speculative about performance or developer support, I can see that on both accounts - I was wrong.
Sorry i just wake up ,I live in Turkey
I’m not sure about the MacBook Air, however the Pro is chewing through games like a champion. Only after 20-30 minutes of playing Diablo III do the fans FAINTLY come on. And this is running using Rosetta 2 no less. Settings are on maximum minus anti-aliasing. No hiccups. And that goes for a ton of games.
I’ve been contributing to this list of Mac games, check it out for yourself:
Games on Apple Silicon
This thing is good. Real good. And once games start being written for Apple Silicon natively, it will get even better.
Where I was once speculative about performance or developer support, I can see that on both accounts - I was wrong.
If that's the case, you can add these:
BurnOut Pararadise - gets in-game with CrossOver DXVK, but has severe graphics glitches (texture flicker).
Castle Crashers - perfect
Crysis 2 - nope, no dice. Tried this with CrossOver DXVK.
Double Dragon Neon - nope, no dice.
Dragon Ball FighterZ - nope, no dice.
GTA IV - nope.
LEGO Marvel Super Heroes - nope. Tried to run this under CrossOver with DXVK and no dice.
LEGO Marvel Avengers - nope.
Mega Man 11 - plays well. Resolution is a bit weird, requires High Resolution Mode and setting virtual window resolution.
Requires CrossOver DXVK.
Metal Fatigue - old game. Requires VooDoo wrapper. Runs weird anyways. Has heavy graphics glitches (texture flicker).
Metal Gear Solid V - freezes up at loading screen but I can hear sound, so it's proceeding, but not displaying anything at all.
Rise of the Tomb Raider - fan comes on strong if you're pushing settings to Ultra. Plays well (50 - 60fps) with a mix of Medium settings, Ambient Occlusion off, and Very High for texture @ 1680 x 1050.
Sleeping Dog - fan doesn't really come on but it doesn't perform well, either. 1440 x 900, Medium settings will get 50 - 60fps.
Tomb Raider - can maintain 60fps on High settings @ 1920 x 1200
Torchlight II - cannot recognize HiDPI so it's stuck at 1280 x 800 max resolution
Shenzhen I/O - nope, no dice. Tried everything possible. I guess I'll have to wait for qemu to get this to run properly.
So honestly, the vast majority of my game library are all no-go. I'm not sure if I even want to try the rest.
The problem is that some games don't really work at all, or require complicated workarounds. Roblox is also not available through the App Store at all. You have to sideload it. And if you're planning on sideloading it, it may not play well since there is no touch screen on this computer, and I don't think Roblox on iOS supports a game controller.
I'd say... while the M1 MacBook Pro is a good computer, I don't think you should get it even if gaming is a distant 2nd/3rd thought. It can game, but only if you don't really have access to anything else to game on. I honestly wouldn't try anymore because I also have a Switch, which does far better than this.
Not sure if he is trolling but I saw earlier on the topics someone complained about 13 mbp m1.He said fans ramp up to full blast after 10 mins of doing stuff.