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Is it possible to configure desktop Mac to "Sleep" (low energy) one hour after "Turn display off when inactive" or manually "Put Display to Sleep" with hot corner? Not crazy that it sleeps the system right when I sleep the screen manually.
 
I'm not sure about a hot corner, but you can accomplish the other option via pmset. I'm not at my Mac right now but I think you want to set "displaysleep" to e.g. 10 minutes, and then "sleep" to 70 minutes. I appreciate that that might be a bit vague :)

Edit: I just looked up the manual. I think "sudo pmset -a displaysleep 10 sleep 70" should do the trick (with the numbers adjusted as relevant, of course).
 
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Thanks for looking this up for me. What does this Terminal command "sudo pmset -a displaysleep 10 sleep 70" do? Does it put display to sleep after 10 minutes inactivity and Mac goes to sleep in 70 minutes after the screen sleeps?
 
Does it put display to sleep after 10 minutes inactivity and Mac goes to sleep in 70 minutes after the screen sleeps?
Yes.
You might also want to use (or not use) Power Nap. That can be set in System Settings > Energy. Can also be set or cleared in pmset with the powernap parameter. FYI "pmset -g" will show the current power settings.
 
Thanks for looking this up for me. What does this Terminal command "sudo pmset -a displaysleep 10 sleep 70" do? Does it put display to sleep after 10 minutes inactivity and Mac goes to sleep in 70 minutes after the screen sleeps?
The Mac will sleep after 70 minutes of inactivity, i.e. 60 minutes after the screen sleeps.
 
Thanks gilby101,
I'm not seeing a "Power Nap" option in System Settings > Energy? I'm on a Mac Mini M4 running Sequoia. Are you referring to the option to "Put hard disks to sleep when possible"?
 
Is it possible to configure desktop Mac to "Sleep" (low energy) one hour after "Turn display off when inactive" or manually "Put Display to Sleep" with hot corner? Not crazy that it sleeps the system right when I sleep the screen manually.

I always thought the "Require password" option is the time when the Mac goes to sleep, but because it's also for the screen saver what I never use, it seems not.

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There is a Hot Corner option to send the display to sleep:

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Thanks gilby101,
I'm not seeing a "Power Nap" option in System Settings > Energy? I'm on a Mac Mini M4 running Sequoia. Are you referring to the option to "Put hard disks to sleep when possible"?
Maybe that is because I am using an Intel Mac and you have an M4. No I was not referring to the "Put hard disks to sleep when possible". What I have under Energy is:
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Your M4 may well be different. Also you don't want to copy my settings as I keep this Mac running 24x7. Sorry if I have brought in a confusion.
 
Thanks gilby101,
I'm not seeing a "Power Nap" option in System Settings > Energy? I'm on a Mac Mini M4 running Sequoia. Are you referring to the option to "Put hard disks to sleep when possible"?

This is all I see on an M3 iMac with macOS 15.2:

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By the way, can anyone confirm that the Energy menu icon in Systems Settings got green in some later macOS 15.x Beta and was blue before like all the others up there? Or did I only imagination that. I can't even remember if it was blue in macOS 14.

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Hi Adora, I have that exact same setting. Unfortunately I have to manually put the Mini to sleep.
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Spoke to Apple Support. They have no solution to make Mac desktop computer sleep (power save mode) after screen sleep kicks in after a predetermined period.
 
Spoke to Apple Support. They have no solution to make Mac desktop computer sleep (power save mode) after screen sleep kicks in after a predetermined period.
That really is strange. It is still there for Intel Macs - maybe because they use more power than Mx when idle.

Does the "sudo pmset -a displaysleep 10 sleep 70" work for you?
 
Spoke to Apple Support. They have no solution to make Mac desktop computer sleep (power save mode) after screen sleep kicks in after a predetermined period.
At first the pmset method did not work for me. But now it's working. Not sure why. pmset -g did not show anything was keeping it from sleeping. Another macos mystery
 
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What exactly does "sudo pmset -a displaysleep 10 sleep 70" do?
My Mac Mini M4 Pro is experiencing an odd occurrence when waking from sleep. No wallpaper, no dock and multi-touch doesn't work for one minute until it wakes up.
 
What exactly does "sudo pmset -a displaysleep 10 sleep 70" do?
Exactly: modifies two power management parameters, namely displaysleep and sleep. The -a (all) says apply to all power settings (battery and mains powered and ups).

The effect is that the display turns off after 10 minutes and the system sleeps after 70 minutes. BUT that is subject to nothing blocking going to sleep.

Also, Macs have multiple sleep states. These do vary between Mac models with significant differences between a) Intel and Apples silicon architecture, and b) between laptop and desktop. This makes advice on the web somewhat tricky to use. The only area where I think I have reasonable knowledge is with Intel MacBooks. My M3 MBP I have mostly left alone.

Even when sleeping, unless you take steps to prevent it, Macs will wake (dark wake) at intervals to carry out scheduled activities. It can also be woken by network activity. The degree of sleep varies, in particular, what is powered down and when. The intention being that any future wake will be as fast as possible, but allowing deeper sleep particularly to prevent battery being depleted too much. The initial stages of sleep, most likely, don't do very much except turn the display off and (I am now guessing) turning of the P cores in an Apple silicon processor.

The command pmset -g log will give you the history of sleep states. It is not easy to interpret and I would advise only using it on laptops where the battery seems to be running own faster than anticipated.

Beyond what is in System Settings, the only documentation is that given by the man pmset command. Notably this does NOT indicate which parameters are appropriate to each kind of Mac or even if some parameters have no effect on some Macs.

My Mac Mini M4 Pro is experiencing an odd occurrence when waking from sleep. No wallpaper, no dock and multi-touch doesn't work for one minute until it wakes up.
That sounds like one for Apple Support (assuming you have not modified settings beyond what is in System Settings).
 
That’s interesting. Low Power mode for a desktop iMac. I have the iMac M3 and haven’t updated yet, just curious why it would be an option for desktop. Usually it’s for laptops.

Yes it's new. I think I first saw it in the 15.1 betas. Maybe that's why I thought it's blue, because it wasn't there. 🙈

It's also in the menu bar if you want:

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Interesting. Curious to find out what it does on the iMacs.
I am also not sure what it is doing. I always turn it on in the evening when I just listen to some video or audio.

Sometimes I forget to turn it off and it's on the whole day. I don't notice any difference. But I don't do really heavy stuff on my Mac.
 
I just updated the iMac M3 and yes I see that setting now. I like that. I like to leave the iMac on all the time because of Home Sharing and ATV access. This is a great feature. Now I want to see if it affect the speed when using Topaz stuff for my projects.

Update: I turned it off. Really does slow down the iMac in low power mode.
Update 2: I turned it back on. It must do dynamic throttling? Running Topaz Video Ai and it's the same speed with it on and when off.... nice.

Eventually after weeks and weeks of messing with it. I turned it off and let the iMac run full speed. It's cool though. The Fans will never ramp up to full speed. Even when I had Topaz Video, Photo and Handbrake doing all sorts of stuff at the same time. Yeah the apps ran a bit slow back and forth but the fan never ramped up to where you can hear it. If I only ran one process hard I would keep it on, but I tend to do several things so full speed it is.
 
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I had issue with "sleep" function on my M4 Mac mini. It would not remain in sleep after 15-30 min. The wired mouse lit up, the mini internal fan started spinning, and the mini case got warmer after awhile (never got warm when in normal use: very strange). After searching online, it seems this is a common issue (some believe it's the spotlight doing indexing).
I've tried lots of different settings in relation to sleep. In the end, I found the only thing worked for me was to set the "Low Power Mode" and turn all others off in the Energy settings.
The challenge now is to automatically set this "Low Power Mode" just before the Mac goes into the sleep mode, and turns LPM off after waking up. Otherwise, this is going to be too tedious to be a viable solution, unless you permanently set to the LPM, which may cause issues for running some applications, in my case, VMware (for Windows 11).
 
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