HomeKit Shortcuts not working on ios18?

[x-evil-x]

Anybody else having issues with their shortcuts triggering after updating their phones to ios18?
The shortcut says it ran but it doesn’t do anything now.

 

[Feek]

Nope, I have various shortcuts triggered by automations and everything is working here.

 

[gwhizkids]

Anybody else having issues with their shortcuts triggering after updating their phones to ios18?
The shortcut says it ran but it doesn’t do anything now.

I’ve had issues during the betas with shortcuts running via automations not actually firing despite receiving a notification that the shortcut ran. This occurs if the device is locked even if the automation is marked to run immediately.

 

[triplet.venture_0n]

Anybody else having issues with their shortcuts triggering after updating their phones to ios18?
The shortcut says it ran but it doesn’t do anything now.

Yes. With some. I suspect it is related to shortcuts that use apps that do not have background activity support. I have some shortcuts that automations do trigger that do not use any apps. Only the shortcuts that use other apps are not triggering.
This ios18 and sequoia upgrade seems like the worst of the past few major releases. It's like they've reverted to the horrible quality of the ios12 and ios13 releases.

 

[erihp]

you guys are crazy for jumping in so early if you rely on homekit or shortcuts.

 

[triplet.venture_0n]

you guys are crazy for jumping in so early if you rely on homekit or shortcuts.

It is completely unacceptable for a company the size, and with the resources, of Apple, and with the customer base the size that they have, for a .0 release to be allowed out the door with such glaring bugs. I can understand obscure bugs, but automations are a primary purpose of the shortcuts app and should be thoroughly tested before the .0 release. Also, if I was to wait for .1, who's to say that this still wouldn't be a bug in that release if all the .0 users didn't beta test major releases for Apple (which is what it seems like Apple expects to happen)?!

 

[erihp]

It is completely unacceptable for a company the size, and with the resources, of Apple, and with the customer base the size that they have, for a .0 release to be allowed out the door with such glaring bugs. I can understand obscure bugs, but automations are a primary purpose of the shortcuts app and should be thoroughly tested before the .0 release. Also, if I was to wait for .1, who's to say that this still wouldn't be a bug in that release if all the .0 users didn't beta test major releases for Apple?!

While I agree from a 10,000ft view, it isnt so simple.

Testing software isn't easy, especially given the immense scope and constant development.

In your specific example, it's possible the issue -is- known and tracked, potentially already fixed, just not built or deployed.

Releasing software isn't easy either!

 

[triplet.venture_0n]

While I agree from a 10,000ft view, it isnt so simple.

Testing software isn't easy, especially given the immense scope and constant development.

In your specific example, it's possible the issue -is- known and tracked, potentially already fixed, just not built or deployed.

Releasing software isn't easy either!

I've been an enterprise software engineer for 30 years. I'm fully aware of how complex software quality assurance is. If it was being released with a known bug, they provide release notes that should state the known issues so that users can be informed of the consequences of an upgrade. But Apple is notoriously opaque about bugs so, if there's no way for me to know if I'm going to experience problems with a release, how long should I wait to know that when I upgrade, everything will still work? 🤷‍♂️ Who knows, because no one knows what bugs exist until we get our hands on it. Which is the problem. It should't be a crap shoot when upgrading software. Apple prides itself on user experience but poor quality releases are a horrible user experience, especially when the release breaks existing functionality without any notice about it.

iOS & iPadOS 18 Release Notes | Apple Developer Documentation

Update your apps to use new features, and test your apps against API changes.

developer.apple.com

 

[erihp]

I've been an enterprise software engineer for 30 years. I'm fully aware of how complex software quality assurance is. If it was being released with a known bug, they provide release notes that should state the known issues so that users can be informed of the consequences of an upgrade. But Apple is notoriously opaque about bugs so, if there's no way for me to know if I'm going to experience problems with a release, how long should I wait to know that when I upgrade, everything will still work? 🤷‍♂️ Who knows, because no one knows what bugs exist until we get our hands on it. Which is the problem. It should't be a crap shoot when upgrading software. Apple prides itself on user experience but poor quality releases are a horrible user experience, especially when the release breaks existing functionality without any notice about it.

iOS & iPadOS 18 Release Notes | Apple Developer Documentation

Update your apps to use new features, and test your apps against API changes.

developer.apple.com

Well, then we can all acknowledge these release notes are mostly theater and only cover the largest, er, most teeth-y changes and issues.
I'm just saying, at this point it's more expected than not, really.

I would want nothing to do with being responsible for saying I had some 'percentage' of 'test coverage' across the code base and functional use cases across all of -any- OS, much less iOS.

Yes, many many people are much better at it than me. But I wouldn't trust whatever number that person stated either.

That said, it does sometimes feel like entire 'parts' of Apple's software are siloed such that there is not equality of coverage for each part. No dev, no need to test right? Makes sense products wither when some teams get love and others dont.

FWIW I agree with you. I know to not update, thats all.

 

[triplet.venture_0n]

Yes. With some. I suspect it is related to shortcuts that use apps that do not have background activity support. I have some shortcuts that automations do trigger that do not use any apps. Only the shortcuts that use other apps are not triggering.
This ios18 and sequoia upgrade seems like the worst of the past few major releases. It's like they've reverted to the horrible quality of the ios12 and ios13 releases.

Confirmed, at least in my case, the Shortcuts.app now prompts to run the application being used in the shortcut every time the automation triggers it if "Notify When Run" is enabled. It effectively makes app-based automations useless. But the app-based shortcuts can only run when the device is unlocked. Someone really screwed up the Shortcuts.app

 

[misty84]

Hi everyone,

I am new to the forum and I am experiencing problems with shortcuts, both on my iPhone (15 pro) and my iPad mini (5th generation). Last year I was able to integrate a shortcut that opens iCal for my digital planner and it worked.
This year, I thought to just simply copy and paste the link to my new digital planner but it didn't work. I deleted the old shortcut and write a new one. But...the shortcut somehow fails to the work.
I didn't tried on my Mac since I don't have the app installed on it.
I recorded the action.
Any ideas?

Thanks a lot

 

[gwhizkids]

Hi everyone,

I am new to the forum and I am experiencing problems with shortcuts, both on my iPhone (15 pro) and my iPad mini (5th generation). Last year I was able to integrate a shortcut that opens iCal for my digital planner and it worked.
This year, I thought to just simply copy and paste the link to my new digital planner but it didn't work. I deleted the old shortcut and write a new one. But...the shortcut somehow fails to the work.
I didn't tried on my Mac since I don't have the app installed on it.
I recorded the action.
Any ideas?

Thanks a lot
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I think we need a bit more information here to assist you. You mentioned iCal. That’s an old name for the Apple calendar from way back. Is there now a new app with that name? or are you referring to the Apple calendar app?

Probably the best thing you could do would be to find the shortcut link to your shortcut and post that here. do that by tapping at the top of your shortcut, and from the resulting contextual menu, select “export file”, which will generate a link which you can post here. See below.

 

[misty84]

Hi gwhizkids,

I was referring to the Apple Calendar App.
The shortcut runs if you run it from the Shortcuts app, but not from the link.

InfinityAstro

If you could help me, I would really appreciate it.

 

[x-evil-x]

Mine fixed itself a few weeks ago. Seems to have issues every major update.
Having 45+ smart devices doesn’t help