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which is the best for ATV 4K on the 2018 OLED TVs?


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sanvito

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I have a 2018 LG TV, and ATV 4K. I just "cut the cord" from cable.

To get local and certain channels, I still need a TV service apparently. I started a 7 day trial with all of these. Cost is not an issue as there are all in the same ballpark anyway, and they all seem to offer the same channels now.

Which one should I pick as far as a picture quality with ATV 4K for July 2018?
And which is best suited for the future ATV Dolby Atmos?

HULU TV
YOUTUBE TV
PS VUE
DIRECTV NOW
 
Youtube TV is not available at my zip code so it may or may not be available at yours.
Directv Now does not have local channels in my zip code and may not have them in yours either.
Hulu TV has locals in my zip code and may also in yours.
PS VUE has locals in my zip code and may also in yours.

You could potentially do a free trial of all of them and compare them side by side to see which ones you like best.
 
Directv may still have the offer to get an Apple TV 4K for free by prepaying for 3 months worth of service with the cheapest option being $35 per month which would total out to $105 for 3 months.
 
Look at the individual channel lineups vs. a list of channels you consider very important to have. That may decide for you. One of the great gripes about streaming services is that each seem to lack just a few key channels about which a potential subscriber cares.

Don't be fooled by apparent "locals" in their channel list presentations that aren't actually locals. Verify when in doubt. For example, just showing a network logo doesn't necessarily mean you will be getting your local affiliate.

Your best crack at real locals (with the bonus of best picture quality & sound) is putting up an antenna and bringing those in from over-the-air broadcasts.

ATMOS will probably come with NONE of these streaming services. None even have DD 5.1 now. Instead, they are all either stereo or mono at best. If you care about maximum sound quality, you need to rethink this migration. Streaming services seem to be about compromising fundamentals like picture quality, sound quality, full (traditional) DVR functionality and so on, mostly for some kind of bragging rights about saving what is usually a relatively smallish amount of money plus maybe some kind of mentality of sticking it to the cable company.
  • The former can usually be mostly overcome by flexing muscles as a consumer to talk companies down from turning off discounts and/or switching to an alternative if necessary to shift to another source of discounts (even a 1-cable supplier area has new subscriber discounts competition from the SATT players).
  • The latter is usually undermined by the very same company typically be the supplier of broadband too, and the switch from a "double play" deal to single play (broadband only) usually involves that broadband going up in price. Even if not, the broadband usually has a hard cap on it which can be quickly eaten up by a household shifting to a stream-all-video model... and then the cap overages make the cable company more money.
My suggestion: look into HDHomeRun Prime (which leverages cable card for traditional cable programming) + one of the other HDHomeRun boxes which gives you multiple tuners for over-the-air signals. Put up a good antenna for local HD, which often comes with an abundance of sub channels (often loaded with lots of classic TV programming). Control all that with a unified on-screen guide via the terrific Channels app run on :apple:TVs or Firesticks hooked to up to every TV in your home. Give the Channels devs $8/month for their DVR service and you'll have DVR functionality that works much more like traditional hardware DVRs than ANY of the virtual DVRs offered by these streamers.

That option gets you full HD picture and full 5.1 DD sound as it is broadcast by the various channels. You'll still have cable but eliminate ALL of the cable boxes (and their leases, which is where a LOT of the crazy costs of cable pile up in a typical household). The DVR won't come with a bunch of limitations, will work with ALL channels, etc. You can still bargain for "double play" deals (cable + broadband). Since you'll still have cable, all of the individual channel apps that require a cable subscription can still be utilized (because you technically still have cable). This video won't burn one byte against a broadband cap. When broadband is down, you'll still have access to all of your local channels as well as anything you've stored on your DVR. Instead of being storage limited on that DVR, the Channels DVR can basically be whatever size you want- just add hard drives. DVR'd content won't auto-expire after a period of time. And on and on.

Downside?: you don't get to brag about "cutting the cord" (which typically isn't cut anyway since it's the same cord that delivers broadband for most people). Total monthly cost may not get as low as some of these streaming services but the difference will probably be less than what one spends on a few trips to Starbucks each month or even one trip to watch about 2 hours of video at a cinema. Cost likely will be less than what one pays for traditional cable TV (if, nothing else, you are getting rid of those cable box lease fees). In turn, you get better picture, DD5.1, more fully functional DVR, actual local channels, functionality even with broadband is down, etc.
 
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I would pick DirecTv, myself.
YouTube is pretty dead.
read reviews online...
YouTube TV is dead? It is one of the few that carries the local channels. At the end of the day, what someone should choose depends on what channels they want. Each service let's you look up channels for your zip code.
 
Downside?: you don't get to brag about "cutting the cord" (which typically isn't cut anyway since it's the same cord that delivers broadband for most people). Total monthly cost may not get as low as some of these streaming services but the difference will probably be less than what one spends on a few trips to Starbucks each month or even one trip to watch about 2 hours of video at a cinema. Cost likely will be less than what one pays for traditional cable TV (if, nothing else, you are getting rid of those cable box lease fees). In turn, you get better picture, DD5.1, more fully functional DVR, actual local channels, functionality even with broadband is down, etc.

COST is NOT an issue for me. The real issue I had with Cable (charter spectrum), was upscaling to my new OLED 4K tv. It was pixelated badly.

These streaming TV services offers a much better picture on 4K tvs. And that Apple TV 4K, allows the ability for me to toggle between 1080 HD/SD, 50/60hz rates. Very useful for old shows, and for european 50hz content. CABLE doesn't do this.

I'm also considering Direct TV satellite as they are rolling out 4K shows. However, I need the newer 2018 dish models, and extra equipment installed (according to DTV website).
 
All the services you mention offer free trials. Try them all, then keep the one you like best.
 
In my opinion, there is no such thing as "the best" streaming service for everyone. There is, however, the streaming service that is "the best" for you. That's what you need to determine: which live tv streaming service is the best for you.

Not really, if I asked you which car is best (Ferrari, BMW, Ford, Kia), the answer is Ferrari. So which is the KING of TV services?
 
Not really, if I asked you which car is best (Ferrari, BMW, Ford, Kia), the answer is Ferrari. So which is the KING of TV services?

You’re kind of asking which car is the best Chevy or Ford?
 
In my opinion, there is no such thing as "the best" streaming service for everyone. There is, however, the streaming service that is "the best" for you. That's what you need to determine: which live tv streaming service is the best for you.
Not so sure why people find this so difficult to understand. For me DTVNOW had the most boxes checked when it came to the things I wanted.
 
Directv Now has the best picture quality measured by having the most channels with 1920 x 1080p @ 60fps, and the highest bitrate. Their drawback is they only offer 20 hours of cloud DVR. They label it as beta but it’s free. Also just two concurrent streams for free. They also have a buggy app but for me the channel selection is closest to what I want, picture quality is most important to me and the price is right. Getting a free ATV4K helps also .
 
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COST is NOT an issue for me. The real issue I had with Cable (charter spectrum), was upscaling to my new OLED 4K tv. It was pixelated badly.

These streaming TV services offers a much better picture on 4K tvs. And that Apple TV 4K, allows the ability for me to toggle between 1080 HD/SD, 50/60hz rates. Very useful for old shows, and for european 50hz content. CABLE doesn't do this.

I'm also considering Direct TV satellite as they are rolling out 4K shows. However, I need the newer 2018 dish models, and extra equipment installed (according to DTV website).


Wow thats terrible. Granted I've seen some sub channels from Comcast that were pretty bad even on a 1080p set. The best cable I've seen is FiOS on the main channels. I actually did a test between OTA antenna and FiOS and they were virtually the same. For some reason I found the FiOS picture a little more pleasing so I am not sure if they did something to the signal as I thought the antenna would have been better.
 
Directv Now has the best picture quality measured by having the most channels with 1920 x 1080p @ 60fps, and the highest bitrate. Their drawback is they only offer 20 hours of cloud DVR. They label it as beta but it’s free. Also just two concurrent streams for free. They also have a buggy app but for me the channel selection is closest to what I want, picture quality is most important to me and the price is right. Getting a free ATV4K helps also .

Looks like HULU is a winner, and DirectvNow has bad audio: "Review: Best TV SERVICE......and the Winner is......"

https://www.reddit.com/r/cordcutters/comments/8x85zq/review_best_tv_serviceand_the_winner_is/
 
YouTube TV has almost all there channels in 60fps now. It is very stable on ATV compared to DTV. HAve to say it just works. DVR and all... I like how I can be watching something, turn it off, come back hours later and pickup where I left off. without needing to even tell it to DVR it. Plus if you have a family account, you can share subscription with up to 5 people. Have it setup so each of my kids have an account also so they can have there own shows DVR'd and not mess with mine. While YTV is limited to 2 streams, it is 2 streams per account. So I can have 2 with mine, 2 with kid 1, 2 with kid 2.... I'm missing a few channels but can deal with it for now. I also have DTV but there DVR is so buggy, audio sucks, crashes or just stops playing in middle of a show. Not worth it and going to drop them soon.
 
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