iPhone SE (2020) Since A New SE Wasn't Presented...

jseymour

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My iPhone SE (2020) is down to 84% capacity and my wife's down to 85%. We were going to upgrade to newer SE's, but now it looks like those will be another year off.

They also didn't announce a Ultra 3 Watch, and my Watch SE is down to 78% capacity.

The abbreviated run times are becoming aggravating for me. So, unless anybody can give me good reasons why not: I'm thinking schedule and appointment at the local Apple store to get them all re-batteried?
 
jseymour said:
My iPhone SE (2020) is down to 84% capacity and my wife's down to 85%. We were going to upgrade to newer SE's, but now it looks like those will be another year off.

They also didn't announce a Ultra 3 Watch, and my Watch SE is down to 78% capacity.

The abbreviated run times are becoming aggravating for me. So, unless anybody can give me good reasons why not: I'm thinking schedule and appointment at the local Apple store to get them all re-batteried?
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Don't know about your Watch, but your battery capacity on your iPhone will have them telling you 'no'. You need to be 79 percent or less. If you offer to pay, they may accommodate you, but don't expect it. Too many threads in this subforum lately about Apple refusing battery replacements even when the customer offered to pay for it.

My own experience with trying to get a battery for a 6 Plus replaced led me to just ignore Apple when my son needed a new battery for his SE2. I just went straight to a third party. That was last year and he hasn't reported any problems.
 
jseymour said:
My iPhone SE (2020) is down to 84% capacity and my wife's down to 85%. We were going to upgrade to newer SE's, but now it looks like those will be another year off.

They also didn't announce a Ultra 3 Watch, and my Watch SE is down to 78% capacity.

The abbreviated run times are becoming aggravating for me. So, unless anybody can give me good reasons why not: I'm thinking schedule and appointment at the local Apple store to get them all re-batteried?
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Unless you have already done so, get on the latest iOS 17 update and see if that makes a bit of a difference. Might be a good thing to look at what's draining the battery as well. Maybe tweak the settings and see if that makes a difference.

The SE is around the corner and with the tweaks you might be able to hold out for 6 more months or so until its being released.

Another option might be to look at a good deal on iPhone 13 or 14. Especially if you have a ton of old lightning kit.
 
eyoungren said:
Don't know about your Watch, but your battery capacity on your iPhone will have them telling you 'no'. You need to be 79 percent or less. If you offer to pay, they may accommodate you, but don't expect it. Too many threads in this subforum lately about Apple refusing battery replacements even when the customer offered to pay for it.

My own experience with trying to get a battery for a 6 Plus replaced led me to just ignore Apple when my son needed a new battery for his SE2. I just went straight to a third party. That was last year and he hasn't reported any problems.
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That's troubling to hear. Obviously Apple would prefer you fork out $500+ on a new iPhone vs. $99 on a battery.

I guess we have to wait until at least 2027 when Apple is required to have easy replaceable batteries.
 
eyoungren said:
Don't know about your Watch, but your battery capacity on your iPhone will have them telling you 'no'. You need to be 79 percent or less. If you offer to pay, they may accommodate you, ...
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I will patiently, respectfully explain to them the phone sometimes goes into areas where cell coverage is marginal-to-non-existent so I need all the battery I can get.

Reverend Benny said:
Unless you have already done so, get on the latest iOS 17 update ...
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Already done.

Most updates include fixes for compromises that are already being exploited by the time the updates get pushed out, so I tend not to sleep on them.

webkit said:
I doubt it will be a full year off. iPhone SEs have always launched in March or April and the expectation is that the next generation SE will as well i.e., launch in March or April 2025.
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Thanks. I can probably wait that long.

Thanks for the follow-ups, everybody!
 
Apple ain’t gonna launch a $499 iPhone SE4 with nearly the same specs as their premium lineup at the same event. Give it until spring 2025. That’s when they’re actually expected to show.
 
I’ve never seen the SE presented in the September Apple Event. The original SE was presented in March 2016 like a week before it was released.
 
Based off rumors what would compel someone to get a regular iPhone 16 once se4 is out? Just wide angle camera and camera button? Color options?

Cause both are 6.1” and a18 presumably
 
thadoggfather said:
Based off rumors what would compel someone to get a regular iPhone 16 once se4 is out? Just wide angle camera and camera button? Color options?

Cause both are 6.1” and a18 presumably
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Action button 🥳
No seriously, very good question. 14 would probably be pulled, what about 15…?
 
Carlsberg69 said:
Action button 🥳
No seriously, very good question. 14 would probably be pulled, what about 15…?
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oh true. and notch. forgot about that.. if you care about that sorta thing vs. Dynamic Island.

Still, that would probably cannibalize a decent amount of iphone16 regular sales

SE1 design was radically different than 6s offered at the time. Same with SE2 and iPhone 12 offered at time.
SE3 (same as SE2) with iPhone 14.

Here iPhone 14 body that Se4 will take on isn't all that different than 16.
 
thadoggfather said:
Based off rumors what would compel someone to get a regular iPhone 16 once se4 is out? Just wide angle camera and camera button? Color options?

Cause both are 6.1” and a18 presumably
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Camera, island, starting storage, maybe satellite. A lot of people care about camera and having only one rear lens in 2025 will be a big demotivator.
 
thadoggfather said:
SE1 design was radically different than 6s offered at the time.
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While the SE1 was smaller than the 6S, I wouldn't call the phones "radically different." As far as specs, the SE and 6S had same RAM, same chip, same 4G LTE, same Touch ID, single 12MP cameras, etc.
 
webkit said:
While the SE1 was smaller than the 6S, I wouldn't call the phones "radically different." As far as specs, the SE and 6S had same RAM, same chip, same 4G LTE, same Touch ID, single 12MP cameras, etc.
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That was the point. same guts, but the design made it a completely different experience. Something I really enjoyed, even when I had a 6s plus at the time.

By 2016, people moved onto 4.7 and 5.5 inch form factor.

4.0 (really a taller 3.5" we were used to for 11 years prior to iPhone 5) was retro iPhone.

with SE4, same guts AND very similar design to the more expensive flagships.
 
thadoggfather said:
That was the point. same guts, but the design made it a completely different experience. Something I really enjoyed, even when I had a 6s plus at the time.

By 2016, people moved onto 4.7 and 5.5 inch form factor.

4.0 (really a taller 3.5" we were used to for 11 years prior to iPhone 5) was retro iPhone.

with SE4, same guts AND very similar design to the more expensive flagships.
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I don't disagree that the design was different but just wouldn't call it radically different, and certainly not to the same degree as the SE2 and 11 or SE3 and 13.

6SSE.jpg
 
thadoggfather said:
I would :p

people made a huge deal out of Apple's first foray into 'large size screens' back then.
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I view "design" to be more related to things like thick versus thin bezels (degree of edge-to-edge display), Touch ID/home button versus no Touch ID/hone button, camera design/appearance, etc. more than just overall physical size. For example, I don't view the 12 or 13 mini phones as a radically different design than the regular 12 or 13 even though they are certainly different in size.
 
webkit said:
I view "design" to be more related to things like thick versus thin bezels (degree of edge-to-edge display), Touch ID/home button versus no Touch ID/hone button, camera design/appearance, etc. more than just overall physical size. For example, I don't view the 12 or 13 mini phones as a radically different design than the regular 12 or 13 even though they are certainly different in size.
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Well with phones it's more subtle other wise you could say all iphones prior face id had the same design.
 
maerz001 said:
Well with phones it's more subtle other wise you could say all iphones prior face id had the same design.
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These days from the front/screen side, any differences are related to the width of the bezels, notches, squared or curved edges, etc. On the back, the differences are largely related to the camera appearance. For example, the Google Pixel design is very similar to the iPhone except for the "camera bar" on the back.
 
With the new iPad mini being released and seeing the specs I'd guess we will see the A17 and not the A18 in the new SE that's being released. Maybe coupled with 8GB ram so that AI will work.
Not sure what comms chipset the new iPad mini has, but if its Apples own its an even bigger chance we'll get the A17 (tested combo of hw).
If its not I'm guessing Apple will focus on getting the A18 to run optimal with their own comms chipset.
 
Reverend Benny said:
With the new iPad mini being released and seeing the specs I'd guess we will see the A17 and not the A18 in the new SE that's being released. Maybe coupled with 8GB ram so that AI will work.
Not sure what comms chipset the new iPad mini has, but if its Apples own its an even bigger chance we'll get the A17 (tested combo of hw).
If its not I'm guessing Apple will focus on getting the A18 to run optimal with their own comms chipset.
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We already know from model identifiers the fifth iPhone (SE4) will be based on A18. It's not really up for debate anymore.
 
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