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Snow Leopard includes Anti-Virus?

fracai

fracai

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fracai said:
Intego claims that Snow Leopard includes some form of Anti-Virus / Anti-Malware software.
Joshua Long speculates regarding what engine the software might use.

Mac4Ever also has a post regarding this.
http://translate.google.com/transla...s/47028/snow_leopard_un_anti_spyware_integre/

I'm mildly skeptical as both screenshots reference the same trojan, but the multiple languages and post by Intego do lend some credence.

If true, it's surprising that this hasn't been leaked prior.
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This is false news and there is no way apple will do such thing, I'm running Snow leopard now
 
uaecasher said:
This is false news and there is no way apple will do such thing, I'm running Snow leopard now
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I agree; Apple is way too arrogant to admit Macs need protection by putting it in the OS. Malicious sites, sure. Phising, it happens. Security Updates? Keeping ahead of the bad guys. Mac getting infected? UNpossible!
 
Just to be clear, this is preventing a trojan or malware, it is not a virus.

I would imagine modifying the OS so that no "malware" could be installed and run by a user would be impossible.

For those that lack common sense regarding downloading and installing potentially malicious software, this may be of value.
 
Amdahl said:
I agree; Apple is way too arrogant to admit Macs need protection by putting it in the OS. Malicious sites, sure. Phising, it happens. Security Updates? Keeping ahead of the bad guys. Mac getting infected? UNpossible!
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THERE ARE NO VIRUSES on OSX.

Since there are no viruses, anti-virus cannot determine what is a virus at this time.

Giz Explains: Why OS X Shrugs Off Viruses Better Than Windows
http://i.gizmodo.com/5101337/giz-explains-why-os-x-shrugs-off-viruses-better-than-windows

The Mac Malware Myth
http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2009/01/29/the-mac-malware-myth/

The Unavoidable Malware Myth
http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/...-apple-wont-inherit-microsofts-malware-crown/

Market Share Myth
http://blogs.bellinghamherald.com/i...uter_virus_record_straig&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1

How to check for Trojans
http://www.macworld.com/article/60823/2007/10/trojanhorse.html
 
Scottyk9 said:
Just to be clear, this is preventing a trojan or malware, it is not a virus.

I would imagine modifying the OS so that no "malware" could be installed and run by a user would be impossible.

For those that lack common sense regarding downloading and installing potentially malicious software, this may be of value.
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Well but malware can work by doing things that a user could do, but generally wouldn't want to. To making it impossible for malware to run, you'd have to seriously cripple what the user himself can do. That's the idea behind trojans. People have to run it, cuz it's not something that can happen automatically, so they trick people into thinking it'll do something else. So detecting trojans is the way to go.
 
Consultant said:
THERE ARE NO VIRUSES on OSX.

Since there are no viruses, anti-virus cannot determine what is a virus at this time.

Giz Explains: Why OS X Shrugs Off Viruses Better Than Windows
http://i.gizmodo.com/5101337/giz-explains-why-os-x-shrugs-off-viruses-better-than-windows

The Mac Malware Myth
http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2009/01/29/the-mac-malware-myth/

The Unavoidable Malware Myth
http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/...-apple-wont-inherit-microsofts-malware-crown/

Market Share Myth
http://blogs.bellinghamherald.com/i...uter_virus_record_straig&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1

How to check for Trojans
http://www.macworld.com/article/60823/2007/10/trojanhorse.html
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You must be real quick on the cmd-c and cmd-v combinations by now!

Anyway, sure there aren't viruses for OS X, but there are trojans. Based on the link, this is meant to detect trojans, which would be a very good thing.
 
Consultant said:
THERE ARE NO VIRUSES on OSX.

Since there are no viruses, anti-virus cannot determine what is a virus at this time.

Giz Explains: Why OS X Shrugs Off Viruses Better Than Windows
http://i.gizmodo.com/5101337/giz-explains-why-os-x-shrugs-off-viruses-better-than-windows

The Mac Malware Myth
http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2009/01/29/the-mac-malware-myth/

The Unavoidable Malware Myth
http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/...-apple-wont-inherit-microsofts-malware-crown/

Market Share Myth
http://blogs.bellinghamherald.com/i...uter_virus_record_straig&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1

How to check for Trojans
http://www.macworld.com/article/60823/2007/10/trojanhorse.html
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Seriously, you are the biggest fanboy I've seen on the forums. In multiple threads, all I see is you defending Apple over its many faults. There are no viruses for Mac YET, there WILL BE in the future. It is inevitable. Personally I believe Apple is too arrogant to include such protection in its systems, however it will be a feature I would want.
 
armoguy94 said:
Seriously, you are the biggest fanboy I've seen on the forums. In multiple threads, all I see is you defending Apple over its many faults. There are no viruses for Mac YET, there WILL BE in the future. It is inevitable. Personally I believe Apple is too arrogant to include such protection in its systems, however it will be a feature I would want.
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Inevitable, maybe. But the thing is, people has been saying that exact same thing for the past 7 years.
 
devburke said:
You must be real quick on the cmd-c and cmd-v combinations by now!

Anyway, sure there aren't viruses for OS X, but there are trojans. Based on the link, this is meant to detect trojans, which would be a very good thing.
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Yup because there is a thread like this every single day.

armoguy94 said:
Seriously, you are the biggest fanboy I've seen on the forums. In multiple threads, all I see is you defending Apple over its many faults. There are no viruses for Mac YET, there WILL BE in the future. It is inevitable. Personally I believe Apple is too arrogant to include such protection in its systems, however it will be a feature I would want.
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Telling the truth has nothing about defending anybody. Speculation is not the truth.

Do you know any hackers? Do you know most hackers or security consultants use Macs?
 
the only Trojans they ever came to OS X was through popular mac os x pirated software that uses installer and asks for password e.g pirated iWork and they get know the very 1st week or day, unlike in windows you can get virus from virtually anything including but not limited to: pictures,porn movies, normal movies, gay movies, pirated software, email, websites, fake programs, games hacks.

My brother used to download porn on my mac without my knowledge and I cough him so he removed it to my old HP which is his now. Same day all of my passwords were stolen including this account :) (ask DoctorQ)
 
Consultant said:
THERE ARE NO VIRUSES on OSX.

Since there are no viruses, anti-virus cannot determine what is a virus at this time.

Giz Explains: Why OS X Shrugs Off Viruses Better Than Windows
http://i.gizmodo.com/5101337/giz-explains-why-os-x-shrugs-off-viruses-better-than-windows

The Mac Malware Myth
http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2009/01/29/the-mac-malware-myth/

The Unavoidable Malware Myth
http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/...-apple-wont-inherit-microsofts-malware-crown/

Market Share Myth
http://blogs.bellinghamherald.com/i...uter_virus_record_straig&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1

How to check for Trojans
http://www.macworld.com/article/60823/2007/10/trojanhorse.html
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Viruses? No.
Trojans? Yes.
Malware? Yes.
Spyware? Yes.
Tracking Cookies? Yes.
Adware? Yes.
Pishing Attempts? Yes.

Any Questions?
 
Consultant said:
THERE ARE NO VIRUSES on OSX.

Since there are no viruses, anti-virus cannot determine what is a virus at this time.

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I think you mean worm. There is no reason there can't be a virus on OS X. Uh, and loosen your underwear.
 
A sort of derision of ClamAV is built into Server or it was a few builds ago.

And although there are maybe 2 or 3 viruses there is a lot of new malware and general crap out there that is beginning to target the Mac OS. I'm testing the now RTM of McAfee's Anti-Virus suite right now.
 
Amdahl said:
There is no reason there can't be a virus on OS X.
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I think if a mac killer virus were possible it would have reared its ugly head long ago.

Hackers invent these things for glory. It would be the ultimate, "hacker high" to bring down OSX.
 
Richard1028 said:
I think if a mac killer virus were possible it would have reared its ugly head long ago.

Hackers invent these things for glory. It would be the ultimate, "hacker high" to bring down OSX.
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Actually they invent them for money. Things that exploit the OS can sell for hundreds of thousands of dollars on the black market, or hackers can just use them themselves like a business. If not for money then for recognition so they can sell their next one for money, fortunately for macs nobody wants to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars for an exploit that targets 5% of computer users. OSX has already been brought down, more than once, but they were at hacking contests where winners get a bunch of money but they have to tell how they did it and how to fix the hole, it was pretty much proven that OSX is the most insecure OS.
 
I have always wondered that all of these ads about virus free would be inviting to all virus programmers out there.

The OS of Macs really cant be that iron-clad...can they?
 
Richard1028 said:
I think if a mac killer virus were possible it would have reared its ugly head long ago.

Hackers invent these things for glory. It would be the ultimate, "hacker high" to bring down OSX.
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Again, I think you are confusing a virus with a worm.

creon said:
The OS of Macs really cant be that iron-clad...can they?
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No, it is mostly about market share. There are all kinds of devices attached to the Internet, that are completely unsafe and probably not even upgradeable, but no one bothers to target them. Mac OS X falls in that category. Or, it did. It is on the radar now.
 
armoguy94 said:
Personally I believe Apple is too arrogant to include such protection in its systems, however it will be a feature I would want.
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For OS X to last this long without a serious virus must mean that the attack, when it comes, probably won't be the kind of assault we've seen on Windows machines. You might think it arrogant, but it would certainly be premature for Apple to say, "here's how we're going to protect Mac users" when no one knows what it will look like. You need a disease to create a vaccine.

mt
 
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