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Oh, yeah, I think the OS will probably be available soon after the key notes. But who knows.
 
I say:
4.0 GM June 7th.
4.0 Official June 16th.
Hardware June 18th.

Agreed ... GM seeded on June 7th, or 11th at the latest, and we'll see the official release before the end of June. I would guess that iPhones will be available sometime right after June 7th ... they won't be available for sale right away because they have to ship to stores first.
 
Agreed ... GM seeded on June 7th, or 11th at the latest, and we'll see the official release before the end of June. I would guess that iPhones will be available sometime right after June 7th ... they won't be available for sale right away because they have to ship to stores first.

i think iPhone 4 would...come with iPhone OS 4. it just wouldnt make sense to have it on 3.1.3

isnt the screen larger, so that would "stretch" and "distort" the icons and whatnot?
 
ohhhh. so. GM isnt the official?

Well technically it was last year, but this year you never know..

What happened last year is they released the GM which of course went to all the developers, the Official then came out a week later for the public.

But like last year, I'm assuming once the GM is released a vast majority of people will upgrade to 4.0 then by finding the download, as it probably won't brick your phone because it is most likely the official build version.
 
i think iPhone 4 would...come with iPhone OS 4. it just wouldnt make sense to have it on 3.1.3

isnt the screen larger, so that would "stretch" and "distort" the icons and whatnot?

The 4th iPhone MIGHT ship with OS 4.0, but it doesn't necessarily need to be released to the public for download to other phones at that time. It might even ship with a version of 3.1/3.2/3.3 which is just 3.0 customized to "fit" with the new features or hardware differences of the new iPhone. Remember, the 3GS didn't ship with 3.0, as all of it's functionality wasn't available until 3.0 was released (even check Apple's website).

Whichever appears first, when iPhone 4 or OS 4 are released, we can expect the other within days given past trends.
 
I think we will see OS4 a couple of days or so prior to the release of the new iPhone.

Not to rain or your parade, but past history dictates that the phone is released a few days/weeks before the OS. I do hope so too!
 
The 4th iPhone MIGHT ship with OS 4.0, but it doesn't necessarily need to be released to the public for download to other phones at that time. It might even ship with a version of 3.1/3.2/3.3 which is just 3.0 customized to "fit" with the new features or hardware differences of the new iPhone. Remember, the 3GS didn't ship with 3.0, as all of it's functionality wasn't available until 3.0 was released (even check Apple's website).

Past track records prove that the new phone was released before the OS was. However, I do agree that it would make SENSE for the 4th iPhone to ship with 4.0, I just don't know if it will happen ...

From what I understand, the resolution has increased on the new iPhone, but it's not a larger screen.

thanks for explaining that to me. made sense.
 
Remember, the 3GS didn't ship with 3.0, as all of it's functionality wasn't available until 3.0 was released (even check Apple's website).

Past track records prove that the new phone was released before the OS was. However, I do agree that it would make SENSE for the 4th iPhone to ship with 4.0, I just don't know if it will happen ...

Get your facts straight.
 
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