Here is the story:
For Christmas 2003, my father had purchases a Sony KDF60XBR950 Rear Projection TV for a cool $6k.
The TV had died in July 2008. My father had called Sony and was told that we were on our own. At that point, we googled issues with the TV and found that it may have been the G1 Board or a faulty thermal fuse. We also had to replace the lamp door due to it being melted. We attempted to swap it out and in the process, we kept on googling issues.
Apparently there is an extended warranty on this set. Sounds pretty straightforward no? Here are the links
http://esupport.sony.com/US/perl/news-item.pl?&news_id=261&mdl=KF60WE610
Upon finding this tidbit of info, my father called SONY and after much complaining was able to get a manager. Keep in mind they were telling us we were out of luck. Eventually, we got a service man to come out here.
The servce tech verified what we had told him and that the unit had melted itself and was a fire hazard due to a design flaw by SONY. This bodes well with extended warranty info that we had found. He then says SONY would most likely or replace it as it was deemed unrepairable by him.
A couple days past and we get a call from SONY offerring us a discount on a new tv. Keep in mind we paid 6k for a top of the line model. Their offers ranged from about 525 for a Bravia 55inch to 80 bucks for a 46 in low end model. Obviously, this does not jive with what their warranty said, whcih I will restate
The SONY rep says that that is the best they can do since they no longer have the part to repair it. That is NOT our problem that they can repair the TV due to a lack of parts. Also, this is almost TWO YEARS after we had first called them, when the warranty says that it will be taken care of for no charge within 30 DAYS.
We have tried calling the number various times and have been denied multiple times to talk to their manager (unbelievable right?) of various occasions. In our latest call, SONY said the offer was only good for 7 days from the initial offer.....THEY MADE NO MENTION OF THIS WHEN WE WERE FIST INFORMED.
Upon further research, we find this on a Sony TV Forums for people who have this same issue
We are at a loss of what to do. Sony is not standing by what their own effing warranty tells them they need to do. Essentially we have been told to take the offer or **** off. This seems to bein DIRECT VIOLATION to their own warranty and that case.
My dad also found that other owners of this tv model have formed class action lawsuits over this.
What can we do? We are thinking of calling up Clark Howard or Tom Martino (talk show consumer advocates)
I am finding this UNBELIEVABLE
In VERY stark contrast to Apple and even MS where Apple repalced a dead logic board for FREE on an out of warranty machine and gave me a free batt when my laptop was out of warranty since it was bulging and MS who has given us numerous replacement 360s
I hate SONY and will never buy their **** again
Any advice is very welcome. We feel that a replacement tv at no cost for a similar size is not too much to ask for)
For Christmas 2003, my father had purchases a Sony KDF60XBR950 Rear Projection TV for a cool $6k.
The TV had died in July 2008. My father had called Sony and was told that we were on our own. At that point, we googled issues with the TV and found that it may have been the G1 Board or a faulty thermal fuse. We also had to replace the lamp door due to it being melted. We attempted to swap it out and in the process, we kept on googling issues.
Apparently there is an extended warranty on this set. Sounds pretty straightforward no? Here are the links
http://esupport.sony.com/US/perl/news-item.pl?&news_id=261&mdl=KF60WE610
Emphasis mine.2003 Models: KF42WE610, KF50WE610, KF60WE610, KDF60XBR950, KDF70XBR950
2004 Models: KF42WE620, KF50WE620, KDF42WE655, KDF50WE655
It has come to our attention that a limited number of Grand WEGA rear projection televisions (models listed above) may exhibit warping to the lamp access door. In rare cases, some additional components may also become damaged as a result.
Sony would like to assure its customers that this issue has been evaluated extensively and that there are no product safety concerns caused by this issue.
As part of our commitment to quality, Sony will reimburse owners of eligible models in the United States who paid out-of pocket expenses on or before May 9, 2008 for an estimate or repair service related to this specific lamp door issue. To receive reimbursement, please follow the exact directions on the claim form for reimbursement; all claims must be postmarked by August 31, 2008. See the claim form for complete terms and conditions.
Additionally, through March 31, 2011, Sony will repair the lamp access door and any other components damaged as a result at no charge for any of the covered televisions. Customers who experience this issue should contact Sony at (888) 649-7669 to schedule a repair. Sony will only provide free repair to covered televisions that exhibit this specific condition.
All other terms of the Sony limited warranty continue to apply. Sony utilizes a network of hundreds of qualified independent third-party servicers to perform in-home television warranty service. Sony, through its Authorized Servicer Network, will repair your set within 30 days of your initial contact. For diagnosis, warranty service, or if your set is not repaired within 30 days, please contact Sony at (888) 649-7669.
Upon finding this tidbit of info, my father called SONY and after much complaining was able to get a manager. Keep in mind they were telling us we were out of luck. Eventually, we got a service man to come out here.
The servce tech verified what we had told him and that the unit had melted itself and was a fire hazard due to a design flaw by SONY. This bodes well with extended warranty info that we had found. He then says SONY would most likely or replace it as it was deemed unrepairable by him.
A couple days past and we get a call from SONY offerring us a discount on a new tv. Keep in mind we paid 6k for a top of the line model. Their offers ranged from about 525 for a Bravia 55inch to 80 bucks for a 46 in low end model. Obviously, this does not jive with what their warranty said, whcih I will restate
Additionally, through March 31, 2011, Sony will repair the lamp access door and any other components damaged as a result at no charge for any of the covered televisions. Customers who experience this issue should contact Sony at (888) 649-7669 to schedule a repair. Sony will only provide free repair to covered televisions that exhibit this specific condition.
All other terms of the Sony limited warranty continue to apply. Sony utilizes a network of hundreds of qualified independent third-party servicers to perform in-home television warranty service. Sony, through its Authorized Servicer Network, will repair your set within 30 days of your initial contact. For diagnosis, warranty service, or if your set is not repaired within 30 days, please contact Sony at (888) 649-7669.
The SONY rep says that that is the best they can do since they no longer have the part to repair it. That is NOT our problem that they can repair the TV due to a lack of parts. Also, this is almost TWO YEARS after we had first called them, when the warranty says that it will be taken care of for no charge within 30 DAYS.
We have tried calling the number various times and have been denied multiple times to talk to their manager (unbelievable right?) of various occasions. In our latest call, SONY said the offer was only good for 7 days from the initial offer.....THEY MADE NO MENTION OF THIS WHEN WE WERE FIST INFORMED.
Upon further research, we find this on a Sony TV Forums for people who have this same issue
ATTENTION all owners of models KF-42WE610, KF-50WE610, KF-60WE610, KDF-60XBR950, KDF-70XBR950, KF-42WE620, KF-50WE620, KDF-42WE655, and KDF-50WE655:
This is a reminder that your TV has a known failure related to lamp overheating, causing warping, melting, scorching, cracking, etc. of the lamp door and other adjacent parts in the TV. This can eventually render your TV inoperable, and it could be a safety issue.
Sony USA has an extended warranty alert for the problem:
Limited Extended Warranty for Certain 2003 and 2004 Televisions Exhibiting Warping of the Lamp Access Door
And Sony Canada has an offer alert for the problem:
Notice for 2003 and 2004 Model Year Grand WEGAâ„¢ Televisions
Previously, these alerts expired on March 31st, 2010, but Sony recently extended it to March 31st, 2010. I recommend that all owners take a look at their lamp doors (go through the procedure you would do to replace the lamp without actually unplugging it). If there is any sign of warping, melting, scorching, cracking, etc. on the lamp door itself or any surrounding parts, you should report it to Sony. It may already have happened, but you are unaware of it.
If you find evidence of the problem, and you are concerned that there is a potential safety issue, please file an Incident Report with the Consumer Product Safety Commission.
In the US, I recommend insisting that Sony replaces your TV with one of EQUIVALENT SIZE and FEATURES WITHOUT CHARGE. Cite the following information (I am not an attorney, so this is legal information--not legal advice...consult an attorney for the latter):
The federal Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act (Title 15 of the United States Code, Sections 2301-2312) states the following.
Section 2304(a)(1): "{S}uch warrantor must as a minimum remedy such consumer product within a reasonable time and without charge, in the case of a defect, malfunction, or failure to conform with such written warranty..."
Section 2301(11): "The term 'replacement' means furnishing a new consumer product which is identical or reasonably equivalent to the warranted consumer product."
Section 2304(d): "Remedy without charge. For purposes of this section and of section 2302(c) of this title, the term 'without charge' means that the warrantor may not assess the consumer for any costs the warrantor or his representatives incur in connection with the required remedy of a warranted consumer product..."
Section 2304(a)(4): "{I}f the product (or a component part thereof) contains a defect or malfunction after a reasonable number of attempts by the warrantor to remedy defects or malfunctions in such product, such warrantor must permit the consumer to elect either a refund for, or replacement without charge of, such product or part (as the case may be)..."
Read more: http://www.agoraquest.com/viewtopic.php?topic=36634&forum=34#ixzz0lb2OslzH
We are at a loss of what to do. Sony is not standing by what their own effing warranty tells them they need to do. Essentially we have been told to take the offer or **** off. This seems to bein DIRECT VIOLATION to their own warranty and that case.
My dad also found that other owners of this tv model have formed class action lawsuits over this.
What can we do? We are thinking of calling up Clark Howard or Tom Martino (talk show consumer advocates)
I am finding this UNBELIEVABLE
In VERY stark contrast to Apple and even MS where Apple repalced a dead logic board for FREE on an out of warranty machine and gave me a free batt when my laptop was out of warranty since it was bulging and MS who has given us numerous replacement 360s
I hate SONY and will never buy their **** again
Any advice is very welcome. We feel that a replacement tv at no cost for a similar size is not too much to ask for)