The last day of fall is December 21, 2011. Knowing how apple regulates their so called season dated releases I wouldn't be surprised if they don't release it until November or December. That's almost 17 months after the last iOS release, I mean, is that even good business or did we drink the kook aid and are too far gone to care? I'm sure iOS 5 will be great, I'm just saying anything over 12 months seems like a crappy business practice to the loyal costumers.