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Nosegear broke upon landing:

June 3, 2007--Southwest Airlines’ flight 3050 experienced a failure in its nose landing gear during an emergency landing in Oakland, California, at approximately 5:32 p.m. central today.

Flight 3050 departed Sacramento at 3:51 p.m. for San Diego.

Enroute to San Diego, the flight crew experienced irregularities with the nose landing gear. The crew elected to divert to Oakland for landing. The crew was able to confirm the correct status of the nose gear by visual confirmation by the Oakland control tower. However, upon landing, the nose landing gear collapsed.

All 114 passengers were evacuated safely from the aircraft via emergency slide, and they were taken to the terminal where they are being assisted by SWA personnel.

At this point, the affected Runway 11/29 in Oakland is closed, but Runway 9R/27L is operational.

Looks like aircraft N356SW, a Boeing 737-3H4.
 
"Crash" seems to be a bit of an overstatement, but it definitely made the news here.

No one was injured and everybody was on their way to San Diego on alternate flights within a few hours.
 
Yeah, the title overstates things a bit. I wouldn't call it a crash. I wouldn't call it a good thing either, but I wouldn't call it a crash.

Sounds like everyone was bascially fine, but it is crazy to imagine going through a botched landing, sliding down the rubber escape ramp, and then boarding a flight again a few hours later (on the same airline!!!) to get to your desitination. I hope they at least got some free peanuts.
 
Yeah, the title overstates things a bit. I wouldn't call it a crash. I wouldn't call it a good thing either, but I wouldn't call it a crash.

Sounds like everyone was bascially fine, but it is crazy to imagine going through a botched landing, sliding down the rubber escape ramp, and then boarding a flight again a few hours later (on the same airline!!!) to get to your desitination. I hope they at least got some free peanuts.

They always get free peanuts.:)

How about free alcoholic drinks? (They charge you for those.)
 
I'm glad there were no injuries. That must have been scary.

My dad went down one of those slides once. Although nobody would want to be in an emergency situation, in the diagrams the slides always look like they'd be fun to try. Maybe they should inflate one for an "airport open house" sometime and let people slide on it.
 
"Crash" seems to be a bit of an overstatement, but it definitely made the news here.

I'll say, I saw the thread title and thought the worst... quickly navigating to google, expecting to see thousands of stories on it.

Maybe they should inflate one for an "airport open house" sometime and let people slide on it.

It'd be just like a bouncy castle wouldn't it..
 
In our industry, metal hitting pavement= crash. Although the 'real world' definition differs a bit, technically a plane could get a flat tire and it would be classified in the records as a crash.
 
In our industry, metal hitting pavement= crash. Although the 'real world' definition differs a bit, technically a plane could get a flat tire and it would be classified in the records as a crash.

I believe the NTSB would classify this as an "incident" since it did not result in any injuries, but I'm not certain I'm remembering the FAR definitions correctly. Possibly the damage to equipment would raise it to "accident."

Edit: here they are.

Federal regulations require operators to notify the NTSB immediately of aviation accidents and certain incidents. An accident is defined as an occurrence associated with the operation of an aircraft that takes place between the time any person boards the aircraft with the intention of flight and all such persons have disembarked, and in which any person suffers death or serious injury, or in which the aircraft receives substantial damage. An incident is an occurrence other than an accident that affects or could affect the safety of operations. (See 49 CFR 830.)
 
How about free alcoholic drinks? (They charge you for those.)

If I remember correctly I did not get charged a dime for my alcoholic drinks when I flew to Mexico City. Don't remember the airline that I flew but we were definitely over the boarder when free drinks were served. :D
 
If I remember correctly I did not get charged a dime for my alcoholic drinks when I flew to Mexico City. Don't remember the airline that I flew but we were definitely over the boarder when free drinks were served. :D
They had free plum wine on Japan Airlines. :)
 
Some friends and I flew to Germany a few weeks ago for vacation.

From the US to Germany, we flew Lufthansa, and all of the alcohol was free. It was nice getting some Bailey's before sacking out. I didn't know it was free (having only flown domestic flights before), so the attendants joked with me for the rest of the flight. "Hot towel? It's free." "Snack? It's free." Oye. :)

From Germany to the US, we flew United, and alcohol cost the usual $5, "exact change preferred".

One thing I appreciated about Lufthansa was how they did their overhead announcements. They were first in German, then in English. The English would last roughly as long as the German.

On the United flight, they'd do English first, and then sum it up to one or two sentences in German. I know that many Europeans understand English, but if you didn't on that flight, you definitely weren't getting the same details. :(
 
For the same reason they do everything else: $$$
It's also because it's what travelers expect and demand. When it was allowed on U.S. flights, letting passengers smoke was never in the airlines financial interest, except in the roundabout way that passengers who smoked would become/stay their customers. The same with the "free" pillows and blankets and soft drinks you can get with most carriers; they don't directly feed the bottom line, but they do it because giving you what you want, within reason, will encourage you to be their customer, and that's good for their business overall.
 
no harm at least, It didn't read well on the homepage, due to the listing below either.
 

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It's also because it's what travelers expect and demand. When it was allowed on U.S. flights, letting passengers smoke was never in the airlines financial interest, except in the roundabout way that passengers who smoked would become/stay their customers. The same with the "free" pillows and blankets and soft drinks you can get with most carriers; they don't directly feed the bottom line, but they do it because giving you what you want, within reason, will encourage you to be their customer, and that's good for their business overall.

Well, yes. An airline that didn't serve alcohol would lose a lot of customers and not gain many. But they do make good money selling drinks too.
 
Heck, last time I flew American (domestic) they gave me a cup of soda. Filled it up, handed me the cup, that was it. I remember when they would fill the cup and then give you the rest of the can. :rolleyes:

Free booze would be awesome on domestic flights though :D
 
Heck, last time I flew American (domestic) they gave me a cup of soda. Filled it up, handed me the cup, that was it. I remember when they would fill the cup and then give you the rest of the can. :rolleyes:
They seem to be inconsistent about this. My unproven theory is that you are more likely to get the whole can if you ask for a drink that is less often requested. If you ask for Coke, you get a cup. If you ask for Ginger Ale or Tomato Juice, you get the can.
 
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