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Spotlight is not giving me Results Properly?

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marcusalwayswins

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Hi Guys,

II’m trying to understand this. I have a document called “Care Insurance” saved in my Documents Folder in Finder. When I search Spotlight for “care” or “Insurance” it doesn’t show the document. Why isn’t it searching? However, when I search in my documents section separately in Finder it does. Why is that? Why doesn’t Spotlight directly show the results? I’ve tried searching in the Files as well and the results are the same.
 
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Don’t know why it’s happening but all I can say is same as issue on all of my Apple devices including the stock mail app. Search, along with Apple’s coding is absolute crap.
 
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You mention Finder. Do you mean the Files app, or are you talking about macOS?

In any case Spotlight appears to be working for me; it’s finding files and searching file contents for matches, along with email and Safari bookmarks. 🤷‍♂️
 
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You mention Finder. Do you mean the Files app, or are you talking about macOS?

In any case Spotlight appears to be working for me; it’s finding files and searching file contents for matches, along with email and Safari bookmarks. 🤷‍♂️
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I know the difference between finder and files app when has Files app started appearing on MacOS ?

If it is finding for you great !! Are we talking about issue I am facing. Or what is working for you ?
 
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marcusalwayswins said:
I know the difference between finder and files app when has Files app started appearing on MacOS ?

If it is finding for you great !! Are we talking about issue I am facing. Or what is working for you ?
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Your OP mentions Finder twice. Hence my uncertainty.

On iPadOS 26.2 Spotlight is finding files by the name I search for. Although upon further examination it’s not finding *all* possible matches, it is finding the most recent file, which suggests that Spotlight indexing is working fine for me.
 
I had a particular numbers document which I regularly open via spotlight, and it would repeatedly disappear from the results. The only solution was to create a new document, copy the contents over, and delete the old one.

Do other files show up? Are you waiting a suitably long amount of time? Did you restart? Did you add the documents folder to the spotlight privacy settings? IF you didn't, do so, restart, then remove it. This should force Spotlight to reindex the documents folder. If that still doesn't work then consider erasing the spotlight index, rebooting, and letting it create fresh index.
 
wish I could just replace Spotlight with Finder in menu bar because it's gone beyond useless, especially for images - all the stupid 'add any number to contacts' prompts, all the stupid Firefox shortcuts, all the stupid 'PDF documents', 'documents', 'spreadsheets' and 'other' so-called categories in settings, and yes, again, all the stupid image thumbnails - and I'm not even on OS Vaseline Soup.
 
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I had a particular numbers document which I regularly open via spotlight, and it would repeatedly disappear from the results. The only solution was to create a new document, copy the contents over, and delete the old one.

Do other files show up? Are you waiting a suitably long amount of time? Did you restart? Did you add the documents folder to the spotlight privacy settings? IF you didn't, do so, restart, then remove it. This should force Spotlight to reindex the documents folder. If that still doesn't work then consider erasing the spotlight index, rebooting, and letting it create fresh index.
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Ok I have enabled Files and Folders in Spotlight Settings yet it is not finding it. I have also restarted the Computer. I dont remember correctly but from whatever I remember the Documents Folder is something that I created and added it to the Finder Side Bar. I dont know sure but maybe I created and added it. Does that make any difference ? is that why Spotlight is not finding it? Since it is not created by the System?
 
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Ok I have enabled Files and Folders in Spotlight Settings yet it is not finding it. I have also restarted the Computer. I dont remember correctly but from whatever I remember the Documents Folder is something that I created and added it to the Finder Side Bar. I dont know sure but maybe I created and added it. Does that make any difference ? is that why Spotlight is not finding it? Since it is not created by the System?
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Do you mean to say the Files & Folders wasn't previously enabled? If not, I guess that's the reason why.

If that's not the case, you'll have to explain your document folder situation more. Is it not the default Documents folder created in your home folder? Is it on an external drive? You'll need to provide more information.
 
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Do you mean to say the Files & Folders wasn't previously enabled? If not, I guess that's the reason why.

If that's not the case, you'll have to explain your document folder situation more. Is it not the default Documents folder created in your home folder? Is it on an external drive? You'll need to provide more information.
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Files and Folder was enabled previously also still it do not fetch the document.

it is on my Home Folder in Finder under Documents Folder so the path is Home Folder>Documents>Care Insurance.

I also reset the Spotlight Indexing from Terminal. Still it is not giving me the document.
 
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Files and Folder was enabled previously also still it do not fetch the document.

it is on my Home Folder in Finder under Documents Folder so the path is Home Folder>Documents>Care Insurance.

I also reset the Spotlight Indexing from Terminal. Still it is not giving me the document.
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Did you try my previous steps? Add the Documents folder to Spotlight privacy, restart, remove Documents folder from privacy and wait a while?
How did you reset spotlight indexing via terminal? The only way that really works is the good old sudo rm -rf /.Spotlight-V100 and immediately restarting. Using mdutil still leaves old config files and doesn't restart the processes. After doing that though, you have to wait a while for it to reindex.
 
Files and Folders were already enabled in Spotlight in Settings.

What do you mean by Spotlight Privacy ? Where is that ?

I used this command to reset Spotlight Indexing

sudo mdutil -E /System/Volumes/Data

I have not restarted the Mac.
 
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is this also applicable for spotlight not finding a file? When I search for the same document or file finder finds it correctly ?
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If i remember correct, my Spotlight was working, but not my Finder and Outlook Search.
But i do not use Spotlight because the Finder search can also find words in documents which is very useful for coding an i use it a lot.....

This is in the end the base for any Search on MacOS.
And keep in mind that i have used this while on Ventura 2022.
 
I use grep for words in a file, and find for file names. I've never used spotlight, I just learned what it is designed to do
 
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