Steve Jobs: College Degree?

[Etrain]

Yesterday I was told by a professor that Steve has a degree. I argued this point but she kept insisting that he got a degree after he left Apple. I told her about him dropping out from Reed college, and she agreed, but she persisted that he does indeed hold a degree. Is this at all true? I can't find anything that says he doesn't or does have a degree. All I can find is that he dropped out when he was young. I would so badly love to prove her wrong. Please help!

Thanks!

 

[swiftaw]

According to Wikipedia:

In 1972, Jobs graduated from high school and enrolled in Reed College in Portland, Oregon. Although he dropped out after only one semester, he continued auditing classes at Reed, such as one in calligraphy. "If I had never dropped in on that single course in college, the Mac would have never had multiple typefaces or proportionally spaced fonts," he said.

 

[Etrain]

Yes, she is not debating he dropped out once. She is debating that he never earned a degree. She thinks after he dropped out he returned years later when he was fired from Apple.

She is not debating he dropped out once. She is debating that he never earned a degree. She thinks after he dropped out he returned years later when he was fired from Apple.

 

[swiftaw]

Yes, she is not debating he dropped out once. She is debating that he never earned a degree. She thinks after he dropped out he returned years later when he was fired from Apple.

Yeah, I read the other thread after I posted. I did a quick search and couldn't find anything, hasn't even been awarding an honorary degree either, as far as I can tell

 

[LinuXtreme]

According to the book I'm reading, after Jobs was fired from Apple he immediately started NeXT with some key Apple employees that followed him out the door. So far, I've found no reference anywhere to him going back to school during that time, or any other time before rejoining Apple.

Maybe you can ask your professor when he supposedly got his degree.

 

[Vuzie]

Sounds like she's thinking of Woz who returned to Berkeley as Rocky Racoon to finish his degree. While it is widely known that Steve Jobs doesn't have a degree, it is never speficially mentioned anywhere. Curious how his Apple profile doesn't mention a degree.

But I think you are missing the bigger point with your professor. Usually when these "debates" come up, it's a "what's the point" of a degree thing. Instead of getting caught in the detail of how one person managed a wildly successful career without one, the point is probably how your statistical chances of getting a good job without one are diminished. Why handicap yourself out the gate. But hey... as my boss tells me.. it's your career.

 

[solvs]

He received an honorary degree just a few years ago.

 

[furcalchick]

i think Etrain was thinking about the woz, who i think went back to school to get his degree.

from woz's wikipedia page:

By 1975, Woz withdrew from the University of California, Berkeley (he would later return to finish his B.S. degree in E.E.C.S., which he received in 1986 enrolled under the alias Rocky Clark) and came up with the computer that eventually made him famous.

 

[Etrain]

She didn't bring it up in class. She is a friend (close to her because of so many classes together) and this was brought up when my friend asked who Jobs was while in her office. Proving her wrong is just for fun because I would like to show her up a little bit.

But in reference to backing down to authority...never. I will call out wrong information and stand up for what I believe in even to Steve himself! haha Backing down to a boss will only hurt you in the long run IMO.

i think Etrain was thinking about the woz, who i think went back to school to get his degree..

No, she specifically said Jobs. We were talking about him because my friend's birthday is on the same day as Steve's.

Thanks everyone!

 

[sushi]

Backing down to a boss will only hurt you in the long run IMO.

Depends on the situation.

Not all bosses are forgiving or desire you to not back down. Likewise some admire/respect you for sticking to your guns. You have to read the situation and then go from there.

 

[Etrain]

That is good advice. I don't stand up for myself to earn respect or whatever though, I do it because I think its the right thing to do. If I do earn respect, thats wonderful, but definitely not nessisary. It has cost me a job so far and I'm 22 so I wouldn't recommend it for everyone. You also have to walk a line between standing up and being disrespectful. Unfortunately, I was once a little to disrespectful and I paid. I understand you need to be tactful, but backing down simply because they are your boss or have a nicer title or office is ridiculous. Even if you get into trouble what is the worst that happens? You have to find a new job that will hopefully be a better match for you and your personality. Anyway..I will step off the soapbox now!

 

[sushi]

The key is to win the war.

It is not necessary to win all the battles to do that.