I actually had 2 close calls just today. While I was working this girl on a bike was within a INCH or less of sideswiping my car than had the nerve to yell at me when i started moving (on the curb line) she was SO close she wasnt in my blind-spot mirrors until she was already beside me! I shouted "The the hell? You shouldn't be riding that close to cars you idiot" Here in MN you are suppose to ride on sidewalks for safety. While Legal to ride in the street, being within an INCH of parked cars is illegal.
The SECOND close call was when I was actually driving. I was in the right turn lane on my way home from work (This is a tiny turn lane big enough for only 2 cars) the second i rounded the corner before approaching this turn was a Diesel on my ass. he went around me and turned right FROM THE left lane and not only cut me off but cut off ALL approaching traffic in the process. I layed on the horn.
If there are parked cars in-between the cyclist and the curb, 1" sounds like it is "as close as practicable".Subd. 4.Riding rules. (a) Every person operating a bicycle upon a roadway shall ride as close as practicable to the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway except under any of the following situations:
No person shall ride a bicycle upon a sidewalk within a business district unless permitted by local authorities
Your description is a little hard to understand I'm not sure if she was on your right or left. If you were parked on the side of the road and were pulling out to get back on the road, then she had the right of way, just like any car. Bicyclists always have the right of way actually, so it would be you sideswiping her.
In most places, it's illegal to ride bikes on the sidewalk (thank god). It appears MN statute suggest the following.
If there are parked cars in-between the cyclist and the curb, 1" sounds like it is "as close as practicable".
Does this thread seek to define 'close calls' as only those 'close calls' that are traffic related? Or do other forms of 'close calls' count, as well?
Oh Scepticalscribe, don't keep us in suspense.
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Does this thread seek to define 'close calls' as only those 'close calls' that are traffic related? Or do other forms of 'close calls' count, as well?
I would say the Thread title of "Close Calls" would imply close calls of any kind I assume the GIF used origionally was just an example of a close call.
Stories, mscriv. Stories. And none of them have anything to do with motor-cars. Or bicycles.
she was on the left, I was not pulling back onto the roadway is was parked on the shoulder (legal on this section of road) and just put the car in gear as it "coasted" by itself not even a inch along the curbline. she was within a INCH of my car. IF i pulled out she would have hit me, (My mirror actually).
This wasnt a business district, that is downtown and AFAIK i have never seen a single sign EVER prohibiting bikes anywhere within the SE or SW side of the city. You are suppose to ride bike ON the sidewalk unless A) There IS no sidewalk or B) Bikes on sidewalks are prohibited by signage. And you can only ride bikes on the street if A) no sidewalk or in a bike lane or B) to the rightmost curb line unless making a left turn OR if there is no bike lane, I personally will never trust a bike lane people drive too crazy. So on the legal stand point this girl should have never been on the street to begin with.
EDIT: there were sidewalks on both side of the street.
EDIT 2: In MN bikes DO NOT Have automatic right of way. If on the sidewalk they are to give way to predestrians. While on the street they are to give way to vehicles on the street, just like any other vehicle.
Well since you started moving and was next to your car she likely figured you were pulling back out. She probably assumed you did not adequately check to see if there was someone coming up on you. Considering you said this was a "close call" it sounds like there might be some truth in that. As far as I know Bikes are considered vehicles in every state and must be ridden on the road unless unless laws permit sidewalk riding, which is not written as a mandate. A real sport cyclist would never use a sidewalk, whereas a kid might.
If you haven't noticed pedestrians > cyclists > cars when it comes to who has the right of way. Each had their own responsibilities to follow, but legally I don't think this woman did anything wrong. It's still the drivers responsibility to be aware of these people since a car weighs a couple thousand pounds and a bike weighs 30.
Here in MN if a pedestrian J-walks or crosses illegally in a crosswalk they do NOT get right of way privledges, Cars do. Same thing applies in New York (Spite misbelief that pedestrians always have right of way in NY)
The person wasn't doing something illegal though, she was riding her bike on the street which appears to be perfectly legal. She was on the road, you were not. She has the right of way. You may disagree that she should be riding on the street, but it's a permitted action. Cyclists can be hard to see, especially if you're not looking for them, and blind spot mirrors don't always cover your entire blind spots.
Technically there is a difference between "prohibited" and "illegal" but I don't think you understand. It seems you believe one is permissible and other is not. They both mean you are in the wrong if you preform the action. Illegal implies worse consequences than prohibited. Prohibited likely means fines or at worse a misdemeanor. If you do something that is prohibited, and it results in serious injury or loss of life, then your action can become illegal. If you pull out on the girl, it's not her fault, it's yours.
Most cops would not waste their time ticketing someone riding a bike on the sidewalk if it was prohibited. But they might yell at you if you're on a crowded sidewalk. If you whizzing down a bustling sidewalk during rush hour endangering the safety of others, then they might have a problem.
The point she was allowed to be riding her bike down the road. If you hit her, it would likely be considered your fault for not checking or checking long enough so see if someone was behind/beside you. Next time, spend the extra 1 second to see that no one is there before you run them over.