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I've wanted to own one of these 12 inch MacBooks since they were introduced (impressed with the form factor) I have an opportunities to pick one up soon off the used market.
I know they aren't the best in terms of specs in 2025 and I've done some limited research, but would like some "real" input from actual users here on the forum about the reliability of these 2015-17 models?
 
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I've wanted to own one of these since they were introduced (impressed with the form factor) I have an opportunities to pick one up soon off the used market.
I know they aren't the best in terms of specs in 2025 and I've done some limited research, but would like some "real" input from actual users here on the forum about the reliability of these 2015-17 models?
Models have flakey butterfly keyboard. There was service program to replace faulty keyboards with same keyboard which eventually develops the same issues. YMMV.
 
I own two MBP 15“ mid 2015 (even both basic models with 2,2 MHz processor and integrated GPU) and I think this is one of the most solid one until apple switched to the M-Processors. Both ones run very well and fast with a good SSD adapter using a Samsung 970 2 TB
Just 2 days ago I replaced the very first (!!) battery, which is glued, but to replace as easy as switching from the apple-type SSD to the Samsung 970 2TB SSD. The MBP 15“ mid 2015 is also the very last one with exchangeable SSD.
Memory is not exchangeable, but nevertheless 16 GB which was much at that time.
Mac OS 12 runs fine on it. And there are a lot of threads about it some people have even installed MacOS 14 and 15 (look at some threads here in the forum)
The screen is really good, the keyboard is the very last one of the old type. It is very reliable and underestimated by far.

I can nothing but recommend to purchase one. And install a Modern SSD ( i.e. Samsung SSD) With a modern SSD it runs very, very good.

It is the last MBP before Joni I’ve went crazy with his „Slim“ Mania, the catastrophic Butterfly Keyboards, reduction of ports and soldered SSDs….

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IIRC the 2017 models tended to be the most reliable. Fewer heat issues, updated butterfly keyboard, they're likely the ones to go for if you're looking for a solid one.

That said I have a 2016 that's been through hell and made it out the other side unscathed enough.
 
IIRC the 2017 models tended to be the most reliable. Fewer heat issues, updated butterfly keyboard, they're likely the ones to go for if you're looking for a solid one.

That said I have a 2016 that's been through hell and made it out the other side unscathed enough.

take a look at this:



IIRC From 2016 on the ssd were soldered, or not?

upgrading the 2015 with a fast SSD and a good adapter costs now near to nothing (Samsung SSD 2 TB costs less than 150 EUR) and is done in less than 10 min. The MBP gets very fast with this excahnge.

A MBP 15“ mid 2015 in good shape costs now about 300-450 EUR… add the 150 EUR for 2 TB space and you have it.
That’s an unbeatable price for a wonderful MBP with easy to change SSD -
And: my 15“ MBP mid 2015 has never overheated.
Less that because my two MBP 2015 are the basic version with 2.2 MHz and INTEGRATED GPU (Intel) .

And this is really good enough for all you do - even photo-editing.
AND… because of the integrated GPU and the 2.2 Ghz it runs much longer on battery than the other versions. A normal user will never feel the difference in real life.


installing macFanControl (for free) and adjust the fans from „automatic“ to a start at about 48 degrees Celsius with a max to 71 degrees Celsius prevents the MBP to even get overheated.

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take a look at this:



IIRC From 2016 on the ssd were soldered, or not?

upgrading the 2015 with a fast SSD and a good adapter costs now near to nothing (Samsung SSD 2 TB costs less than 150 EUR) and is done in less than 10 min. The MBP gets very fast with this excahnge.

A MBP 15“ mid 2015 in good shape costs now about 300-450 EUR… add the 150 EUR for 2 TB space and you have it.
That’s an unbeatable price for a wonderful MBP with easy to change SSD -
And: my 15“ MBP mid 2015 has never overheated.

installing macFanControl (for free) and adjust the fans from „automatic“ to a start at about 48 degrees Celsius with a max to 71 degrees Celsius prevents the MBP to even get overheated.

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I believe this thread is about specifically the 12" Retina MacBook from 2015-2017, not the 15" MBP. All the 12" rMBs have soldered SSDs.
 
I believe this thread is about specifically the 12" Retina MacBook from 2015-2017, not the 15" MBP. All the 12" rMBs have soldered SSDs.
maybe… maybe not ?

Of course I thought it was about the MBP 15“ mid 2015 and „2015-17“ meant only the production-years of MBP from 2015 to 2017?

Maybe I misunderstood the TO..

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maybe… maybe not ?

Of course I thought it was about the MBP 15“ mid 2015 and „2015-17“ meant only the production-years of MBP from 2015 to 2017?

Maybe I misunderstood the TO..

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Some MBPs were 2015-16, others 2015-18, depending on the spec.

OP was referring to these:

Screenshot 2025-04-16 at 15.26.59.png

One example here : https://everymac.com/systems/apple/macbook/specs/macbook-core-m-1.2-12-early-2015-specs.html
 
maybe… maybe not ?

Of course I thought it was about the MBP 15“ mid 2015 and „2015-17“ meant only the production-years of MBP from 2015 to 2017?

Maybe I misunderstood the TO..

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I'd assumed since this is posted in the MacBook forum, generally reserved for discussion of the MacBook Line as opposed to the MacBook Pro or MacBook Air. The 12" Retina MacBook was produced and updated from 2015-2017.
 
I own two MBP 15“ mid 2015 (even both basic models with 2,2 MHz processor and integrated GPU) and I think this is one of the most solid one until apple switched to the M-Processors. Both ones run very well and fast with a good SSD adapter using a Samsung 970 2 TB
Just 2 days ago I replaced the very first (!!) battery, which is glued, but to replace as easy as switching from the apple-type SSD to the Samsung 970 2TB SSD. The MBP 15“ mid 2015 is also the very last one with exchangeable SSD.
Memory is not exchangeable, but nevertheless 16 GB which was much at that time.
Mac OS 12 runs fine on it. And there are a lot of threads about it some people have even installed MacOS 14 and 15 (look at some threads here in the forum)
The screen is really good, the keyboard is the very last one of the old type. It is very reliable and underestimated by far.

I can nothing but recommend to purchase one. And install a Modern SSD ( i.e. Samsung SSD) With a modern SSD it runs very, very good.

It is the last MBP before Joni I’ve went crazy with his „Slim“ Mania, the catastrophic Butterfly Keyboards, reduction of ports and soldered SSDs….

.
I know about the 15" "Pro" models, I was actually asking about the 12" models! Thanks for your input, anyways! Cheers
 
I wouldn't. I love that design too, I get it, but the current 13" MBA isn't that much larger and is superior in nearly every way. 11" iPad Pro + Magic Keyboard is another alternative for an ultraportable. With the 12" MacBook you've got a 10-year-old Intel chip that isn't supported by the latest macOS and a horrendous keyboard that will inevitably fail under normal usage.

That being said, I wish they would bring it back. Sweet concept.
 
I wouldn't. I love that design too, I get it, but the current 13" MBA isn't that much larger and is superior in nearly every way. 11" iPad Pro + Magic Keyboard is another alternative for an ultraportable. With the 12" MacBook you've got a 10-year-old Intel chip that isn't supported by the latest macOS and a horrendous keyboard that will inevitably fail under normal usage.

That being said, I wish they would bring it back. Sweet concept.

Agreed - though I wonder if they think it would overlap too much with the MBA13 now given the size reduction there.

The 12" MB is just too expensive for the limitations - if they were $100-$150 perhaps, but good condition used is more than double that.
 
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I'm such a weirdo I guess because I liked the butterfly keyboard. The keyboard on my aging 2016 15" MBP is still working great, and it's the first gen without any of the design improvements... The 12" MB was a neat machine, I may be biased as my first personal Mac was the 12" PB G4 when I started college. That thing did everything I wanted for 4 years, from writing papers to watching movies and TV shows and playing WoW and many other games!
 
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I say go for it. I used a 2017 12" as my daily driver up until last year & I only stopped using it because the battery swelled. I still have another one that I use as a backup/ portable machine.

They are the best laptops Apple ever made (IMOP) and I would buy an updated one in a heartbeat, even if the only change was putting an M series processor on there.

The keyboard is my least favorite part, but such an amazing laptop & my 2-017 wasn't super slow when using it day to day, unless I really started to use a lot of programs and have a lot of safari tabs open.
 
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Definitely get a 2017. I have a 2017 with core i5, 8 RAM and 512 SSD. It is an incredible little machine to travel with. It makes my wives 13" M1 MacBook Air seem heavy and huge. It runs Ventura very well. It's fine for web browsing, messaging, email, and other basic apps. Screen is incredible! Get one! Wish they would update this with an Apple M Processor.
 
It’s a vintage product, and most likely will stop getting security updates. I guess it depends on how much you spend on the mac.
 
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I've wanted to own one of these 12 inch MacBooks since they were introduced (impressed with the form factor) I have an opportunities to pick one up soon off the used market.
I know they aren't the best in terms of specs in 2025 and I've done some limited research, but would like some "real" input from actual users here on the forum about the reliability of these 2015-17 models?
I have a used 2016 model (m3, 256 GB, 8 GB RAM) and I have it running the latest version of Sequoia with OCLP. It works fine. Battery life isn't anything notable (probably 2-4 hours depending on tasks and screen brightness), but it's a full Mac that I can take with me when traveling that's not nearly as costly to repair as my 14" MacBook Pro if something breaks or gets damaged or stolen on a short trip.

It is definitely very slow compared to even more powerful Intel Macs, much less an Apple Silicon Mac. But it gets the job done and it's better than a locked-down iOS device or an Android tablet (though I'd probably take the Android tablet over an iPad).

I got mine for $150 on Facebook Marketplace and wouldn't really pay more than that, personally.

Try to get one with a recently replaced battery or a very low cycle count, because the battery is a PITA to replace.
 
I own two MBP 15“ mid 2015 (even both basic models with 2,2 MHz processor and integrated GPU) and I think this is one of the most solid one until apple switched to the M-Processors. Both ones run very well and fast with a good SSD adapter using a Samsung 970 2 TB
Just 2 days ago I replaced the very first (!!) battery, which is glued, but to replace as easy as switching from the apple-type SSD to the Samsung 970 2TB SSD. The MBP 15“ mid 2015 is also the very last one with exchangeable SSD.
Memory is not exchangeable, but nevertheless 16 GB which was much at that time.
Mac OS 12 runs fine on it. And there are a lot of threads about it some people have even installed MacOS 14 and 15 (look at some threads here in the forum)
The screen is really good, the keyboard is the very last one of the old type. It is very reliable and underestimated by far.

I can nothing but recommend to purchase one. And install a Modern SSD ( i.e. Samsung SSD) With a modern SSD it runs very, very good.

It is the last MBP before Joni I’ve went crazy with his „Slim“ Mania, the catastrophic Butterfly Keyboards, reduction of ports and soldered SSDs….

.
Nice share, but OP meant the MacBook, like in MacBook, not the '15 MacBook Pro. But again, that is an amazing generation, like a last call for a more traditional and reliable MacBook (Pro), because they knew that‘d be the last of it because then we got the 2016 debacle. I got a 2017 refurb from Apple that year and it is the most unreliable piece of tech, for 1700€ what were ~$2000, I ever owned. I will not miss it once I get an M. I am sure I wouldn’t feel the same way with a Mac(s) like you have. 👍🏻
 
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I've wanted to own one of these 12 inch MacBooks since they were introduced (impressed with the form factor) I have an opportunities to pick one up soon off the used market.
I know they aren't the best in terms of specs in 2025 and I've done some limited research, but would like some "real" input from actual users here on the forum about the reliability of these 2015-17 models?
In the repair space, both Apple official and third-party especially, these units are known for their very poor reliability. They have a number of hardware faults on them. The first major one is the infamous butterfly keyboard, which is known to basically spontaneously develop failures from usage and can present itself in the form of hitting a key and then multiple letters enter at once, or hitting a key and nothing happens, or the keys themselves getting physically crunchy or jammed, and in some cases even the entire keyboard flat out dying, and there isnt much peventative measures to take other than not using keyboard. If that wasn't bad enough, these things also have a fun tendency of developing a lot of logic board related issues, particularly with the CPU's dying/failing in fun ways. Usually symptoms of this would be things like memory failures, graphical artifacts typically because of the memory failures, kernel panics and random crashes especially under load, the storage drive completely disappearing from the system and now showing up as a connected piece of hardware and the machine being unable to boot, add some cases the machine can also flat out die completely and basically show no signs of life other than a trackpad that clicks whenever the unit is charged. There's no real remedy or solution for this other than replacing the logic board, but the replacement boards will also fail in the same way eventually and at this point you're either paying crazy money for a refurbished board from Apple or marginally more reasonable but still expensive used boards but they come from God knows where with what kind of history so it's basically a gamble anyways. Because these machine machines are worth so little and the cost of repairs is still a lot for many things, even something as straightforward as battery service from Apple basically puts these machines in the red in terms of overall costs. Cheaper through third-party but then you run into the same sort of gamble style problems where the parts themselves in that field tend to be pure crap more often than not, or in rarer cases like iFixit, expensive but mediocre (and at least wont kill the unit unlike ebay and amazon and such). At that point if you're hit with basically any hardware problem on these machines, it pretty much immediately becomes a situation where the cost of repair plus what you initially paid for the unit starts to just get dangerously close to the cost of a base model M1 MacBook Air, which will not only substantially outperform it but have a ton of other benefits in the form of better battery life and better thermals and also running silent and being a lot more reliable and actually having support from Apple for the next half a decade if not more.

Assuming all of the hardware is perfect and assuming none of these age related issues this machine that you might purchase, you're not out of the woods yet. The operating system side of things is also gonna be a problem in most of these cases and will require you to put in a whole bunch of extra work. Both the 2015 and the 2016 model at this point our end of life and no longer receive any sort of maintained macOS version, since both of those are stuck on BigSur and monterey respectively, while the 2017 model supports Ventura, which is going end of life later this year around November/December so it's not particularly far behind. Luckily unlike the hardware issues above, these ones you can mitigate with a bit of effort on your part. You can basically trick these machines into taking a newer version of macOS than what the unit supports using OpenCore Legacy Pactcher, which will basically allow you to install Sonoma and Sequoia unofficially on the units with a little bit of work, and both of these gill give you over 1.5years and 2.5years of support and bugsixes and security mitigations respectiely. Alternatrively, you can patch Windows11 to install on these units (with some work) and thatll be suported for a while still, and there is always good ol' Linux, which will be supported until the end of time and nothing will run as smoothly as that, since Linux is designed for old systems from the start and will even run of rocks on the side of the road if it needs to. Any OS older than whats mentioned here at this point you shouldnt really be using due to its entirely unmaintained nature, which makes them a security problem, and that gets even worse the further behind the curve you fall. Even if we put our heads in the sand and pretend that security is not important and ignore all the real world problems that exist, as obfuscated and abstract as they may be, simply running these old operating systems will eventually catch up to you anyways in the form of application support not existing, old apps eventually breaking, and in general just not supporting modern technologies and features which can also catch up to you in various forms. Basically just shooting yourself in the foot intentionally running something old and just unnecessarily adding risk to your life, regardless of what perspective you use. With OCLP Sonoma/Sequioa, or Win11, or Linux, you can absolutely stretched a little bit of extra life out of these machine, and many of these will actually run perfectly fine with a little bit of work, but if you haven't done stuff like that or aren't familiar with it, you're gonna have to get involved and potentially start learning new stuff and be comfortable with sometimes reading technical stuff if things go wrong. Basically the nature of the beast whenever you try to maintain 10+ year-old computers.

If you want to get one of these 12 inch units just for collecting purposes, totally fair, and you can put in a bit of time to get a not-unmaintained operating system onto it to mitigate a lot of the problems and then just keep up on the updates with it, but if you're looking to actually daily drive something, or even as some secondary unit, you should just entirely ignore the 12" macbook lineup, and quite frankly the rest of the Intel Mac lineup as a whole since a good chunk of them have overlapping issues with reliability and support and just pedestrian performance by 2025+ standards, especially in a post-Apple SIlicon world. If youre going to spend a couple hundred on a unit, as a main or secondary, it at least should get your moneys worth and not be a burden/liability. Something like a used M1 MacBook Air is very cheap for 8Gb variants these days,w which can be found for as low as 400USD used, and the more ideal 16GB versions are closer to 500-600usd and a better purchse anyways. Alternatively an iPad with the keyboard case of sorts will go a long way sepecially since iPadOS is fairly mature and a lot of peoples apps are all just web-apps or running in a web-wrapper anyways (stripped down browser engine for rendering stuff), or even some of those smaller form factor to retired enterprise-grade fleet Windows laptops (lineups like: Dell Latitide, HP Elitebook, HP Probook, Asus ExprttBool, Lenono Thinkpad), which can be made for wither WIn11 or Linux, and can be found with crazy good spec like 16GB/512GB and 8th gen or higher properly cooled faster Intel CPU for under 250USD, and also hae room to upgrade storage or memory and be way cheaper to fix if it breaks. Any of these are going to be a much better solution for a small portable system that's gonna require basically no additional work on your end to keep it maintained and secure and supported, it will not have any of the major reliability issues a lot of these 12-inch units run into, and will often outperformed them pretty much across the board for relevant things like battery life and thermals and actual performance and stuff like that.

I use to daily drive one for many years around late 2010's, and I have a mint unused 2015 in my closet atm with new top case and sub-50 cycle battery purely for collecting. I loved it to bits as a tiny women with tiny hands and weak shoulder muscles with a more loaded purse, but id never recommend getting one now beyond a super cheap hobbyist tinker machine that you know can become a totalled sunk cost at any moment due to hardware, or just for collecting in a closet because youre obsessed with Mac. I've probably spoken to thousands of owners of these 12" units over my tenure of receicing appointments from Apples system, and many are crazy about these due to size, but ive had this exact convo with so so so many of them and seen people spend crazy money upkeeping one that it just turns into a money sinkhole and they couldve bought multiple used M1 airs by then. If they made an apple silicon 12" I wouldnt even hesitate buying one, but the existing ones have too many downsides from a number of perspectives to be worth anything for 99% of users
 
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In the repair space, both Apple official and third-party especially, these units are known for their very poor reliability. They have a number of hardware faults on them. The first major one is the infamous butterfly keyboard, which is known to basically spontaneously develop failures from usage and can present itself in the form of hitting a key and then multiple letters enter at once, or hitting a key and nothing happens, or the keys themselves getting physically crunchy or jammed, and in some cases even the entire keyboard flat out dying, and there isnt much peventative measures to take other than not using keyboard. If that wasn't bad enough, these things also have a fun tendency of developing a lot of logic board related issues, particularly with the CPU's dying/failing in fun ways. Usually symptoms of this would be things like memory failures, graphical artifacts typically because of the memory failures, kernel panics and random crashes especially under load, the storage drive completely disappearing from the system and now showing up as a connected piece of hardware and the machine being unable to boot, add some cases the machine can also flat out die completely and basically show no signs of life other than a trackpad that clicks whenever the unit is charged. There's no real remedy or solution for this other than replacing the logic board, but the replacement boards will also fail in the same way eventually and at this point you're either paying crazy money for a refurbished board from Apple or marginally more reasonable but still expensive used boards but they come from God knows where with what kind of history so it's basically a gamble anyways. Because these machine machines are worth so little and the cost of repairs is still a lot for many things, even something as straightforward as battery service from Apple basically puts these machines in the red in terms of overall costs. Cheaper through third-party but then you run into the same sort of gamble style problems where the parts themselves in that field tend to be pure crap more often than not, or in rarer cases like iFixit, expensive but mediocre (and at least wont kill the unit unlike ebay and amazon and such). At that point if you're hit with basically any hardware problem on these machines, it pretty much immediately becomes a situation where the cost of repair plus what you initially paid for the unit starts to just get dangerously close to the cost of a base model M1 MacBook Air, which will not only substantially outperform it but have a ton of other benefits in the form of better battery life and better thermals and also running silent and being a lot more reliable and actually having support from Apple for the next half a decade if not more.

Assuming all of the hardware is perfect and assuming none of these age related issues this machine that you might purchase, you're not out of the woods yet. The operating system side of things is also gonna be a problem in most of these cases and will require you to put in a whole bunch of extra work. Both the 2015 and the 2016 model at this point our end of life and no longer receive any sort of maintained macOS version, since both of those are stuck on BigSur and monterey respectively, while the 2017 model supports Ventura, which is going end of life later this year around November/December so it's not particularly far behind. Luckily unlike the hardware issues above, these ones you can mitigate with a bit of effort on your part. You can basically trick these machines into taking a newer version of macOS than what the unit supports using OpenCore Legacy Pactcher, which will basically allow you to install Sonoma and Sequoia unofficially on the units with a little bit of work, and both of these gill give you over 1.5years and 2.5years of support and bugsixes and security mitigations respectiely. Alternatrively, you can patch Windows11 to install on these units (with some work) and thatll be suported for a while still, and there is always good ol' Linux, which will be supported until the end of time and nothing will run as smoothly as that, since Linux is designed for old systems from the start and will even run of rocks on the side of the road if it needs to. Any OS older than whats mentioned here at this point you shouldnt really be using due to its entirely unmaintained nature, which makes them a security problem, and that gets even worse the further behind the curve you fall. Even if we put our heads in the sand and pretend that security is not important and ignore all the real world problems that exist, as obfuscated and abstract as they may be, simply running these old operating systems will eventually catch up to you anyways in the form of application support not existing, old apps eventually breaking, and in general just not supporting modern technologies and features which can also catch up to you in various forms. Basically just shooting yourself in the foot intentionally running something old and just unnecessarily adding risk to your life, regardless of what perspective you use. With OCLP Sonoma/Sequioa, or Win11, or Linux, you can absolutely stretched a little bit of extra life out of these machine, and many of these will actually run perfectly fine with a little bit of work, but if you haven't done stuff like that or aren't familiar with it, you're gonna have to get involved and potentially start learning new stuff and be comfortable with sometimes reading technical stuff if things go wrong. Basically the nature of the beast whenever you try to maintain 10+ year-old computers.

If you want to get one of these 12 inch units just for collecting purposes, totally fair, and you can put in a bit of time to get a not-unmaintained operating system onto it to mitigate a lot of the problems and then just keep up on the updates with it, but if you're looking to actually daily drive something, or even as some secondary unit, you should just entirely ignore the 12" macbook lineup, and quite frankly the rest of the Intel Mac lineup as a whole since a good chunk of them have overlapping issues with reliability and support and just pedestrian performance by 2025+ standards, especially in a post-Apple SIlicon world. If youre going to spend a couple hundred on a unit, as a main or secondary, it at least should get your moneys worth and not be a burden/liability. Something like a used M1 MacBook Air is very cheap for 8Gb variants these days,w which can be found for as low as 400USD used, and the more ideal 16GB versions are closer to 500-600usd and a better purchse anyways. Alternatively an iPad with the keyboard case of sorts will go a long way sepecially since iPadOS is fairly mature and a lot of peoples apps are all just web-apps or running in a web-wrapper anyways (stripped down browser engine for rendering stuff), or even some of those smaller form factor to retired enterprise-grade fleet Windows laptops (lineups like: Dell Latitide, HP Elitebook, HP Probook, Asus ExprttBool, Lenono Thinkpad), which can be made for wither WIn11 or Linux, and can be found with crazy good spec like 16GB/512GB and 8th gen or higher properly cooled faster Intel CPU for under 250USD, and also hae room to upgrade storage or memory and be way cheaper to fix if it breaks. Any of these are going to be a much better solution for a small portable system that's gonna require basically no additional work on your end to keep it maintained and secure and supported, it will not have any of the major reliability issues a lot of these 12-inch units run into, and will often outperformed them pretty much across the board for relevant things like battery life and thermals and actual performance and stuff like that.

I use to daily drive one for many years around late 2010's, and I have a mint unused 2015 in my closet atm with new top case and sub-50 cycle battery purely for collecting. I loved it to bits as a tiny women with tiny hands and weak shoulder muscles with a more loaded purse, but id never recommend getting one now beyond a super cheap hobbyist tinker machine that you know can become a totalled sunk cost at any moment due to hardware, or just for collecting in a closet because youre obsessed with Mac. I've probably spoken to thousands of owners of these 12" units over my tenure of receicing appointments from Apples system, and many are crazy about these due to size, but ive had this exact convo with so so so many of them and seen people spend crazy money upkeeping one that it just turns into a money sinkhole and they couldve bought multiple used M1 airs by then. If they made an apple silicon 12" I wouldnt even hesitate buying one, but the existing ones have too many downsides from a number of perspectives to be worth anything for 99% of users
Thank you for your impressive response to my question! I will ponder heavily on what you have written above. Cheers!
 
I have to agree with most of the comments above, as a collectors item sure.
As an actual computer you plan on using every single day or even a back up computer, absolutely not.
Even assuming you can find one in perfect condition at a reasonable price, let’s say $200, you can also find an M1 MacBook Air for not that much more and it’s going to absolutely destroy that 12 inch MacBook in every aspect. Software support, reliability, speed, everything.
 
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