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Be3G

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Sep 19, 2007
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Hi all,

I need to buy a couple of of the old, Lightning-powered Magic Keyboards and Trackpads which means sourcing them from random third-party sellers as they've been discontinued. But I'm aware that fakes do exist – well, I've certainly read that there're counterfeit keyboards out there, so it wouldn't surprise me if the same is true of the trackpads.

So, if anyone has got access to one or both of these, would you mind taking screenshots of what System Information lists for them, both under Bluetooth and under USB (when plugged in), so that I can compare the data like manufacturer, vendor ID, product ID with the ones I'm ordering?

Thanks in advance!
 
Text from the Bluetooth Pane in System Profiler. I omitted the unique Bluetooth addresses for my devices. The Keyboard is the compact keyboard without TouchID. Both were purchased in early 2022.

Connected:
Joe’s Magic Keyboard:
Address:
Vendor ID: 0x004C
Product ID: 0x029C
Firmware Version: 2.0.6
Minor Type: Keyboard
Services: 0x800020 < HID ACL >

Joe’s Magic Trackpad:
Address:
Vendor ID: 0x004C
Product ID: 0x0265
Firmware Version: 3.1.1
Minor Type: Magic Trackpad
Services: 0x800020 < HID ACL >
 
This is my Space Grey keyboard, purchased in June of 2020. I believe this model was introduced with the iMac Pro and it was discontinued shortly after I got mine. I leave it plugged into the USB-A port on my 2018 Mini all the time. Sorry, I dislike trackpads, can't help there.


Screen Shot 2025-03-25 at 10.12.00 AM.png
 
Hello, I am also trying to verify authenticity of a trackpad I bought. I'm looking for opinions or more direction to verify authenticity before I plug this thing in.

The model A3120 is listed as valid on Apple's support page (this is the only page I could find that included this model number: https://support.apple.com/zh-tw/121932)

I found the mac address of my trackpad using the following commands:

```
brew install blueutil
blueutil --inquiry
```
and used this command to retrieve more info on the trackpad after finding the mac address:

```
sudo log stream --level debug --predicate 'subsystem == "com.apple.bluetooth" AND eventMessage CONTAINS "MAC_ADDRESS_HERE"'
```

I retrieved the following information:

```
Bluetooth Address: MAC_ADDRESS_HERE
Advertised Name: Magik Trackpad
Product Name: Magic Trackpad
Vendor ID: 0x004C (Apple)
Product ID: 0x0324 (unrecognized, marked with ? in logs)
Device Type: AppleTrackpad
Firmware Version: 3.1.4
Bluetooth Frequency: 2.4 GHz
RSSI: -47 dBm
Discovery Flags: ClassicScan, HIDGoodBehavior, Connectable
Additional Features: ANC Transparency (LsMC 0x6), MicM Auto, ClkH L NoiseManagement R NoiseManagement, Plcm M Enabled, spAM ContentDriven
Log Timestamp: 2025-09-04 12:55:37
```

I did not connect the device, and performed these readings only from scanning.

Suspicious findings:
- Advertised name is "Magik Trackpad" with a K
- Why does it have ANC Transparency, Noise management etc.?
- My Macbook M4 Pro, running Sequoia 15.6.1, shows the product ID as unrecognized `PID 0x0324 (?)`


Would a tech reselling shop rename the "advertised name" like that? Maybe because they are testing multiple trackpads? I can't guess of any other reason that being different, besides being counterfeit. Why would a counterfeit seller make such an obvious mistake though. But even weirder, why does a trackpad have ANC audio features.

Thank you.
 
Hello, I am also trying to verify authenticity of a trackpad I bought. I'm looking for opinions or more direction to verify authenticity before I plug this thing in.

The model A3120 is listed as valid on Apple's support page (this is the only page I could find that included this model number: https://support.apple.com/zh-tw/121932)

I found the mac address of my trackpad using the following commands:

```
brew install blueutil
blueutil --inquiry
```
and used this command to retrieve more info on the trackpad after finding the mac address:

```
sudo log stream --level debug --predicate 'subsystem == "com.apple.bluetooth" AND eventMessage CONTAINS "MAC_ADDRESS_HERE"'
```

I retrieved the following information:

```
Bluetooth Address: MAC_ADDRESS_HERE
Advertised Name: Magik Trackpad
Product Name: Magic Trackpad
Vendor ID: 0x004C (Apple)
Product ID: 0x0324 (unrecognized, marked with ? in logs)
Device Type: AppleTrackpad
Firmware Version: 3.1.4
Bluetooth Frequency: 2.4 GHz
RSSI: -47 dBm
Discovery Flags: ClassicScan, HIDGoodBehavior, Connectable
Additional Features: ANC Transparency (LsMC 0x6), MicM Auto, ClkH L NoiseManagement R NoiseManagement, Plcm M Enabled, spAM ContentDriven
Log Timestamp: 2025-09-04 12:55:37
```

I did not connect the device, and performed these readings only from scanning.

Suspicious findings:
- Advertised name is "Magik Trackpad" with a K
- Why does it have ANC Transparency, Noise management etc.?
- My Macbook M4 Pro, running Sequoia 15.6.1, shows the product ID as unrecognized `PID 0x0324 (?)`


Would a tech reselling shop rename the "advertised name" like that? Maybe because they are testing multiple trackpads? I can't guess of any other reason that being different, besides being counterfeit. Why would a counterfeit seller make such an obvious mistake though. But even weirder, why does a trackpad have ANC audio features.

Thank you.
My guess is that whomever previously owned the trackpad set its name to Magik Trackpad. For instance, mine shows up with MY_NAME's Magic Trackpad as its device name, as that is what it defaulted to when I first connected to it. You are free to change that name. I suspect that what your software is calling the Advertised Name.

The trackpad definitely doesn't have active noise cancellation. I've never used blueutil before. You probably need to read up on blueutil a bit. I suspect that list of features are functions that use bluetooth, but might not show up on a generic scan so the flags are by default activated by your search.

My Apple devices all list the Vendor ID: as 0x004C

Since my Trackpad is a model A1535, it has a different Product ID. It shows as 0x0265.

I'm pulling my data from System Report.
 
My guess is that whomever previously owned the trackpad set its name to Magik Trackpad. For instance, mine shows up with MY_NAME's Magic Trackpad as its device name, as that is what it defaulted to when I first connected to it. You are free to change that name. I suspect that what your software is calling the Advertised Name.

The trackpad definitely doesn't have active noise cancellation. I've never used blueutil before. You probably need to read up on blueutil a bit. I suspect that list of features are functions that use bluetooth, but might not show up on a generic scan so the flags are by default activated by your search.

My Apple devices all list the Vendor ID: as 0x004C

Since my Trackpad is a model A1535, it has a different Product ID. It shows as 0x0265.

I'm pulling my data from System Report.
I appreciate the fast reply, thank you.

I do want to point out that the noise cancellation values came back from the `sudo log stream --level debug --predicate 'subsystem == "com.apple.bluetooth" AND eventMessage CONTAINS "MAC_ADDRESS_HERE"'` command. I only used blueutil to get the mac address of the device so I could filter these bluetooth logs for what I was looking for.

The box and device look normal honestly, but I've never used one of these before. I got it on eBay at a good discount due to being used.

Update: I plugged it into an isolated Mac of mine and ran the command 'system_profiler SPUSBDataType -detailLevel full`

This yielded the results:

```
USB 3.1 Bus:
Host Controller Driver: AppleT6000USBXHCI
Magic Trackpad:
Product ID: 0x0324
Vendor ID: 0x05ac (Apple Inc.)
Version: 4.10
Serial Number: SERIAL_NUMBER_HERE
Speed: Up to 12 Mb/s
Manufacturer: Apple Inc.
Location ID: 0x01100000 / 1
Current Available (mA): 500
Current Required (mA): 500
Extra Operating Current (mA): 800
Sleep current (mA): 1300
```

Maybe I am just extra paranoid but things are looking more trustworthy here. At least the serial number on the box and the device matches this result. It does show a different version here vs. bluetooth, but might be representing different firmware.

I just can't find an explanation anywhere for how it's possible that the advertised name of the device is "Magik Trackpad" with a K. So bizarre.

Update again:

You can easily rename the device when it's connected in the bluetooth settings, lol. So maybe the last owner just did that for funsies? I wish Apple had a comprehensive list of product names etc. to be able to verify authentic products. But I guess they would just say to directly buy from them and there's no problem...
 
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