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Moccasin

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I’m close to giving up on British Gas’s Hive smart home heating system ever gaining HomeKit support. My suspicion is that even though Apple have made it easier to implement HomeKit integration, their data security requirements mean that Hive will lose the ability to see user data - after all it is a British Gas owned company.

I’m therefore wondering whether I should just give someone else my Hive kit and move to Tado. I’ve seen decent reviews and feedback for Tado but am not sure if it’s worth the cost of changing, even if I can get £100 or so by selling my current Hive system. The integration of Tado seems better and it seems to be smarter than Hive

Has anyone else changed from Hive and/or had bad experience of Tado?
 
Have you reached out to them? Maybe Siri shortcuts could provide opportunity for integration?

It's sort of a catch-22 though - you almost don't want to interact with it too much because it's meant to be smart. I would weigh up the cost of switching vs how much you really, really need to use HomeKit.

I have Hive, hardly use the app (because of the smart timer) and have had no problems with it
 
I have Tado and I really like it - Homekit integration works well and the Tado app allows multiple users (iOS and Android) to partake in control/geolocation. I specifically chose Tado over Hive as it just seemed easier to self-fit.

I will be expanding the range of sensors from just one room thermostat to that plus several radiator valves over the coming weeks so that the bathroom towel rail is pretty much always on whilst the living room and bedroom temperatures are individually controlled.
 
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Have you reached out to them? Maybe Siri shortcuts could provide opportunity for integration?

It's sort of a catch-22 though - you almost don't want to interact with it too much because it's meant to be smart. I would weigh up the cost of switching vs how much you really, really need to use HomeKit.

I have Hive, hardly use the app (because of the smart timer) and have had no problems with it

Its not a priority that’s for sure and you’re right to ask whether HomeKit is so important but Tado does seem better. Last time I tried, Siri didn’t work with Hive. I think I what’s more annoying is that they’ve been saying they’ve been working on HomeKit integration for years and are still saying that. Phillips Hue integration has been introduced as well as other things, yet still no HomeKit. Given that Apple insist on a high level of data security, my strong suspicion is that they don’t want to lose the data they receive. The system is after all owned by British Gas who can likely monetise the data.
 
You can command the hive system via text messages, so I’ve set up Siri shortcuts to do this.

I can now voice command the status of my heating and water and also do the boosts etc

Not exactly HomeKit but better than nothing until BG one day do something or not.
 
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