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Technical reason behind 1440x852?

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vbman213

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1680x1050 should (mathematically speaking) scale perfectly to 1440x900. Same screen size, same aspect ratio, etc... So why does apple do this 1440x852 crap?

If Apple would allow scaling to true 1440x900 in display settings, that should allow these folks who want Anti-Glare and the standard resolution.
 
DoFoT9 said:
ahh of course! :cool:

using the non-native res seems redundant and silly tbh. just make the font bigger (cant hold it in any longer).
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Some people want the anti-glare option, which is only available in the hi-res screen, but the resolution makes everything too hard to see for those who are vision-challenged. They want to be able to get the hi-res, anti-glare, then adjust the resolution to 1440x900, so they can see everything without zooming. The problem is, I've never seen any screen display alternate resolutions as clearly as the native resolution, so it probably wouldn't be as clear and sharp as a screen with native 1440x900.
 
GGJstudios said:
Some people want the anti-glare option, which is only available in the hi-res screen, but the resolution makes everything too hard to see for those who are vision-challenged. They want to be able to get the hi-res, anti-glare, then adjust the resolution to 1440x900, so they can see everything without zooming. The problem is, I've never seen any screen display alternate resolutions as clearly as the native resolution, so it probably wouldn't be as clear and sharp as a screen with native 1440x900.
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it would seem not, the experience is the same with me. thats perfectly understandable for the vision challenged. but what is stopping them from increasing the font size. that way the resolution increase is there (more space on screen etc) but the font sizes are increased.

i guess even increasing the DPI of the screen (basically increasing everything anyway).

i wonder why it cant scale directly to 1440x900? explain apple! :mad:
 
DoFoT9 said:
it would seem not, the experience is the same with me. thats perfectly understandable for the vision challenged. but what is stopping them from increasing the font size. that way the resolution increase is there (more space on screen etc) but the font sizes are increased.

i guess even increasing the DPI of the screen (basically increasing everything anyway).

i wonder why it cant scale directly to 1440x900? explain apple! :mad:
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Changing font sizes wouldn't cover everything, such as some application toolbars and controls.
 
DoFoT9 said:
fair call, system font size changes should change all of that though? (in osx anyway).
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In Apple apps, yes. Not necessarily 3rd party apps. It depends on how well they're designed. There are some other things that wouldn't be affected by changing system fonts, but I can't recall them at the moment. Anyway, the catch-all would be to change screen resolution, but it's a less-than-ideal solution.
 
GGJstudios said:
In Apple apps, yes. Not necessarily 3rd party apps. It depends on how well they're designed. There are some other things that wouldn't be affected by changing system fonts, but I can't recall them at the moment. Anyway, the catch-all would be to change screen resolution, but it's a less-than-ideal solution.
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yea there would def be some that do not change, such as in Office - when you hover over buttons. i guess they stay the same (though i have never tested). i see your point :)

cyclical said:
I'm thinking this might be a question better directed towards Nvidia...
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you think so? i thought it would more be directed at the makers of the panel?

or even apple - as they write the drivers for their own computers.

has anybody tested this on bootcamp?
 
cyclical said:
I'm thinking this might be a question better directed towards Nvidia...
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No it has nothing to do with the GPU.

I honestly believe it is a software limitation.

Mathematically, there is no reason why a 1680x1050 display can't display a 1440x900 resolution. True, it won't look as good as a native 1440x900 display, but it would look a hell of a lot better than 1280x800.

1440x852 is freakin' letterboxed! If they just allowed 1440x900 it would fill the entire screen without any scaling/stretching...

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Edit: Does anybody know a way to force a Mac into a non-Apple approved resolution? And if so, could they try to force 1440x900 on a highres.
 
There again, the 330m in a std res uMBP is the same as in a hires uMBP.
This has nothing to do with the GPU.

I still believe this can be corrected with software. I guess display resolutions have a strict approval process like App Store apps... Well, I guess we will never see 1440x900 enabled...

Can somebody try this: http://www.madrau.com/SRXv3/html/SRX/whysr.html

And create a custom resolution using 1440x900. Force your high res screen to use 1440x900 using SwitchResX

And post photos (not screenshots) of the results...

I would appreciate it a bunch ;)
 
Not trolling but I'm curious to know - why would anyone buy a 1600 x ... display and want to use it in a 1400 x ... in the first place ?
 
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