Telia Sweden to adjust plan prices for iPhone 3G after pressure from consumers.
http://www.ipodnn.com/articles/08/07/03/telia.reworks.iphone.plans/
http://www.ipodnn.com/articles/08/07/03/telia.reworks.iphone.plans/
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Telia Sweden Adjust iPhone 3G prices after pressure from consumers
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Yes, please! I'll sign that darn petition 30,000 times myself in the US! Just give us something more than X minutes and unlimited data. Someone should explain to AT&T how they would have almost zero customers if all they offered in voice was unlimited at $99/month. Give us something that starts at about $50 for *limited* data as a choice. They make enough off those stupid blasted fees (everybody who has bought an iPhone knows about the $18 "up yours for buying a phone" fee).
This is a petition to AT&T that someone put together a while back. It was put up on digg, but seemed to get glossed over for the most part. if people would spread it around, we could try to make it be worth something
http://www.petitiononline.com/IPHONE3G/petition.html
http://www.petitiononline.com/IPHONE3G/petition.html
Congratulations Sweden!
Telia is the carrier in both Denmark and Sweden, and they decided not to alter the plan in Denmark.
Why?
Can you believe this?: Telia Sonera Denmark states in a letter to the danish group leading the "Free data plan" offense, that Apple is fault. According to Telia Sonera, Apple demands loads and loads of money, and their current plan simply can't be cheaper. The funny thing is that I believe them, however as usual, Telia Sonera totally misinterprets the situation. This is not about the price. Most customers are fine with the pricing. They are however NOT fine with no option for free data plan at additional cost. WHY WONT TELIA OFFER IT? They know no one will use data after 300mb spent.
Telia is the carrier in both Denmark and Sweden, and they decided not to alter the plan in Denmark.
Why?
Can you believe this?: Telia Sonera Denmark states in a letter to the danish group leading the "Free data plan" offense, that Apple is fault. According to Telia Sonera, Apple demands loads and loads of money, and their current plan simply can't be cheaper. The funny thing is that I believe them, however as usual, Telia Sonera totally misinterprets the situation. This is not about the price. Most customers are fine with the pricing. They are however NOT fine with no option for free data plan at additional cost. WHY WONT TELIA OFFER IT? They know no one will use data after 300mb spent.
its not going to happen in the USA my friends. Sweden is the most socialist country in the world, thats why things like this can happen there... we wont see it here Im afraid
haha, are you mad?
For one thing, Sweden is a more free country than the US, also sporting sane copyright laws VS the US. They are like Denmark, social-liberalists, being some of the people with most freedom in the world, and socialized healthcare for everyone. and for the record? Denmark recently took over the lead in highest taxes in the world leaving Sweden behind. I am at the moment, giving 69% in taxes every damn month. Ouch
Lets not turn this into a USA vs Sweden thing, I didn't mean it like that. I just meant that since the US is capitalist oriented the people actually have less of a say then in more socialist countries, so in fact I was insinuating that americans are less free if you will...
There is also *sigh* the standing issue, that has been discussed ad nauseum in numerous threads, that the US AT&T pricing for the iPhone is essentially 100% in line with US pricing for smartphones with 3G data services from any other manufacturer and any provider, including AT&T. This is a starkly different situation than the situation in parts of Northern Europe, where the iPhone tariff schemes are completely different (and more expensive) from what is on the market for comparable phones from other manufacturers.
Yeah, these people have so much say that the price plans for sweden and norway and Finland are so much more expensive than the US.
Regulations are useless. The more the regulation, the more creative the carriers get. Don't allow handset subsidies --- no problem, we will just "rent" you a handset.
You know why Norway's iphone plans are the most obscene in Scandinavia --- they only have 2 national carriers. Bring in a third and a fourth national carrier --- you will see price drop.
Hear-hear!
And to make it even worse: those two are the two old monopolies Telia (through Netcom) and Telenor (the old Norwegian Televerket), which both are used to doing whatever they want...
We really should have gotten those two additional 3G networks, that was auctioned away just as the .com crisis and consequent crash in all-tings-tech...
If we had 4 competing 3G networks the prices had been much, much better (or, ironically, probably also if we had only one independent network, which served all the carriers at equal rates, but that's for another, far more political, discussion
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I don't care about subsidized prices, I do prefer to pay the real price for the hardware and what i want is to keep my monthly bill as low as possible, and changing to the 3G will increase my monthly fee significantly and receiving less talk minutes and SMS. And also to be able to have insurance, something that they simply don't want to offer.
Isn't the iPhone something different to the "smartphones"? If so why now AT&T say it is like any other smartphone?
Do other "smartphones" can be insured by AT&T?
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Isn't the iPhone something different to the "smartphones"? If so why now AT&T say it is like any other smartphone?
Do other "smartphones" can be insured by AT&T?
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herbal vaporizer forum
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They can "adjust" all they want, the plans are still laughable.
Let me put it like this...
1) I love Apple and their products
2) I'm already a Telia customer
3) I'm looking to buy a new phone
4) I've got some money burning a hole in my pocket
5) I'm already familiar with the iPhone interface through my iPod Touch, which I treasure to no end
6) I'm an avid gadget freak and my shelves and drawers are crammed with unnecessary electronics
In short, I should be unstoppable in my efforts to lay my hands on an iPhone 3G. No sales blurb required. Wild horses shouldn't be able to drag me away.
And yet, when I saw Telias iPhone announcement and the price list, my craving for an iPhone 3G was completely wiped out. I gasped and laughed in disbelief for a couple of minutes, shook my head, and suddenly I had no desire left whatsoever. My cellphone bill would increase... twentyfold? Really? I would go from 50 SEK / month for my current 3G phone, to a minimum of 850 SEK / month, more likely 1000 SEK or more, considering the data plan wasn't unlimited? Did you honestly think the iPhone was THIS desirable, Telia? Did you honestly think that Swedes, who are accustomed to dirt cheap 3G plans since several years, would suddenly be willing to pay as much as Americans do?
It was the biggest turnoff I can remember. I felt strangely liberated. My gadget craving curse had been crushed in one swift blow. I can't recall ever going from 100 to zero that quickly, ever. In order to convey the sensation, picture this: You walk into a bar, and there's your favorite Hollywood babe (Megan Fox, Natalie Portman... take your pick). She volunteers to follow you home. She takes off her clothes, and as it turns out, she has a huge penis. If she's the equivalent of the iPhone, Telia's iPhone plans are the equivalent of the huge penis and its sweaty, hairy balls.
I have no iPhone, but thanks to Telia I feel great about it!
Let me put it like this...
1) I love Apple and their products
2) I'm already a Telia customer
3) I'm looking to buy a new phone
4) I've got some money burning a hole in my pocket
5) I'm already familiar with the iPhone interface through my iPod Touch, which I treasure to no end
6) I'm an avid gadget freak and my shelves and drawers are crammed with unnecessary electronics
In short, I should be unstoppable in my efforts to lay my hands on an iPhone 3G. No sales blurb required. Wild horses shouldn't be able to drag me away.
And yet, when I saw Telias iPhone announcement and the price list, my craving for an iPhone 3G was completely wiped out. I gasped and laughed in disbelief for a couple of minutes, shook my head, and suddenly I had no desire left whatsoever. My cellphone bill would increase... twentyfold? Really? I would go from 50 SEK / month for my current 3G phone, to a minimum of 850 SEK / month, more likely 1000 SEK or more, considering the data plan wasn't unlimited? Did you honestly think the iPhone was THIS desirable, Telia? Did you honestly think that Swedes, who are accustomed to dirt cheap 3G plans since several years, would suddenly be willing to pay as much as Americans do?
It was the biggest turnoff I can remember. I felt strangely liberated. My gadget craving curse had been crushed in one swift blow. I can't recall ever going from 100 to zero that quickly, ever. In order to convey the sensation, picture this: You walk into a bar, and there's your favorite Hollywood babe (Megan Fox, Natalie Portman... take your pick). She volunteers to follow you home. She takes off her clothes, and as it turns out, she has a huge penis. If she's the equivalent of the iPhone, Telia's iPhone plans are the equivalent of the huge penis and its sweaty, hairy balls.
I have no iPhone, but thanks to Telia I feel great about it!
That's the dumbest analogy I've heard in ages. The iPhone is no Porsche. At best it's an Audi (assuming other phones are Volkswagens) with a strange mixture of cutting edge (interface and software) and outdated technology (2 megapixel cam, no front-facing cam, no MMS, 3G five years later than all other manufacturers etc). There is a slight premium on the purchase price, but that's OK - it's an Audi. What's not OK is that if you actually want to drive this Audi you inexplicably have to pay a fee of $10 per mile just for the heck of it. I'll gladly pay the premium at the counter, but there's no way I'm paying some arbitrary monthly "hype fee" just because some lowly carrier is bursting with hubris over being granted permission to sell iPhones.marksman said:
I don't get it. If you're already a Telia customer, then why don't you just buy the iPhone without a subscription and keep using your old subscription? That's what me and my colleagues did. The 16GB iPhone is 4.396 SEK excluding VAT when bought without a subscription.
Right, but I need the unlimited data plan on top of that so I'm still looking at a 150% increase in costs (I make very few calls, but I'd be using mobile internet like crazy).
And with all these issues (poor battery life, cracks, 3G dropping, 2.0 bugs etc) combined with my newfound distaste for Telia, I just can't revive my iPhone desire. It's dead. Maybe it will come back to life if the 3rd gen iPhone is up to scratch...