wow those numbers are pretty poor. I mean people do use their phones in freezing weather and in weather that is about 100 degrees.
Now the car factor is 130 degrees or even below Zero.
Either apple really screwed up or they are just playing it really really safe on their numbers. Mind I will say on multiple ones of my electronics I have gone out side of their temperature range
Those are standard warranty and performance numbers. Flip open any electronics manual you have lying about. It'll be more or less identical. You shouldn't be using unprotected consumer electronics in extreme weather unless you're willing to bear the cost of replacement. That's all the numbers mean.wow those numbers are pretty poor. I mean people do use their phones in freezing weather and in weather that is about 100 degrees.
You should never leave electronics turned on in a hot (or cold) car. My nephew has gone through many a head unit in frigid New Hampshire mornings by turning on the stereo before letting the car warm up in the morning. I toasted a cell phone LCD on a trip to Palm Springs by leaving it in a rental car for three hours at a conference.In vegas its over 113 almost every day in july and august. But I bought my iphone on august 4 and had no problems but i would never leave it in the car where the temps can top 130 in the middle of summer.
Those are standard warranty and performance numbers. Flip open any electronics manual you have lying about. It'll be more or less identical. You shouldn't be using unprotected consumer electronics in extreme weather unless you're willing to bear the cost of replacement. That's all the numbers mean.
I would like to see a product with this operating range. 35C is the upper end for operating environments on almost everything, with a 45C/-10C ceiling/floor for exposure.Most of the time I used to see 110 being the high operation and storage being closer to 140.
No, it's not "normal" weather, and it's not an environment in which most people spend a lot of their time. It's also not a magical breaking point. Walking outside is not going to break your phone, nor is keeping it on your person if you're, say, a construction worker.Reason I say they are pretty pathic is on a very regular bases the southern cities will get 95+ as there high. Put that over pavement and it easily breaking 100 degree. And this is normal summer weather.
It has nothing to do with what the device is "able to handle." It is a fixed parameter for operation. A device will work outside of that range just fine, but you do it at your own risk. Motorola products come with the warning never to expose the device to temperatures above 45C (the magic 113 degrees), just like the iPhone. Why 45C? Because that's the specified liability limit for batteries used in small electrics more or less across the board. You're not likely to come across a consumer battery with an approved range above 113, and certainly not 140 as you suggest.While leaving it in your car is one thing but not be able to handle 110 is rather said.
I'm sorry, but 100 degrees is not a normal operating environment for anything. Take your desktop, TV, or microwave and bring it outside and see how long it lasts in such weather. The safe money is on that desktop overheating and shutting down long before your phone will. You should generally be starting with a room temperature device, and so unless you spend hours outside on an unusually hot or cold day with your phone, you're fine.It is more the numbers can not even handle t he normal weather much less exstreams .
32F operating temperature..at that point you shouldnt care much. iphone doesnt work well with gloves anyway. brrrr on the hands.
Reason I say they are pretty pathic is on a very regular bases the southern cities will get 95+ as there high. Put that over pavement and it easily breaking 100 degree. And this is normal summer weather.
No, it's not "normal" weather, and it's not an environment in which most people spend a lot of their time.
... Why 45C? Because that's the specified liability limit for batteries used in small electrics more or less across the board. You're not likely to come across a consumer battery with an approved range above 113, and certainly not 140 as you suggest.
"Over 95" almost nowhere happens more than 30 days out of the year, and only for a few hours on those days. The average daily high doesn't breach 95 in the overwhelming majority of the country at all. People have a tendency to exaggerate.What? Darned Californians <grin>. Yes, of course over 95 is normal summer weather in the Southeast. And Southwest, for that matter.
I would like to see a product with this operating range. 35C is the upper end for operating environments on almost everything, with a 45C/-10C ceiling/floor for exposure.
No, it's not "normal" weather, and it's not an environment in which most people spend a lot of their time. It's also not a magical breaking point. Walking outside is not going to break your phone, nor is keeping it on your person if you're, say, a construction worker.
I live in Greece and it IS "normal" in July-August to have 36c - 42c and higher some times. I have a iPhone 3G that still works.
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I'm sorry, but 100 degrees is not a normal operating environment for anything. Take your desktop, TV, or microwave and bring it outside and see how long it lasts in such weather. The safe money is on that desktop overheating and shutting down long before your phone will. You should generally be starting with a room temperature device, and so unless you spend hours outside on an unusually hot or cold day with your phone, you're fine.
"Over 95" almost nowhere happens more than 30 days out of the year, and only for a few hours on those days. The average daily high doesn't breach 95 in the overwhelming majority of the country at all. People have a tendency to exaggerate.
Even on days where the high is above 95, the actual amount of time that a given location will be over 95 degrees is at most a fraction of the day. All together, even in the Southwest, there's maybe an equivalent of one week out of the year where the temperature is actually above 95.
I would hardly call 1/52nd of the year "normal" operating conditions. Even in Summer, temperatures that hot clearly occupy a small minority of the day. It certainly gets hot and stays hot, but the idea that people actually spend a meaningful portion of their year in 95+ heat is a fantasy.
"Over 95" almost nowhere happens more than 30 days out of the year, and only for a few hours on those days. The average daily high doesn't breach 95 in the overwhelming majority of the country at all. People have a tendency to exaggerate.
"almost nowhere" well I live in Greece and the daytime temp june-august is 32c/89.6f to 46c/114.8f that's 93 days with temp close to 95f. So by your def of ".....almost nowhere happens more than 30 days........." you are saying Greece is almost nowhere and thats an insult
I agree. When I'm using my iPhone for music or using Waze, it gets damn near too hot to handle. That's some serious operating temperatures.wow those numbers are pretty poor. I mean people do use their phones in freezing weather and in weather that is about 100 degrees.
Now the car factor is 130 degrees or even below Zero.
Either apple really screwed up or they are just playing it really really safe on their numbers. Mind I will say on multiple ones of my electronics I have gone out side of their temperature range
wow those numbers are pretty poor. I mean people do use their phones in freezing weather and in weather that is about 100 degrees.
Now the car factor is 130 degrees or even below Zero.
Either apple really screwed up or they are just playing it really really safe on their numbers. Mind I will say on multiple ones of my electronics I have gone out side of their temperature range
I agree. When I'm using my iPhone for music or using Waze, it gets damn near too hot to handle. That's some serious operating temperatures.
Playing safe. In case one of the many iPhones they sold breaks down because of an extremely high or low temperature - they want to avoid law suits.