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Jiddick ExRex

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So, I just got my 20" Dell 2005FPW and I am curious about all the other +20" owners:

How many dead/stuck pixels/subpixels do you have? Did you return your display because of dead pixels?

I have 2 stuck subpixels :(

(I don't notice them though).
 
I don't actually see the point of this thread but I've owned 3 20" AL ACDs 1 of which had a single dead (not stuck) pixel. There are 3 other LCD displays here (2 HDTVs and 1 iMac G5) these don't have stuck pixels either.
 
The point of the thread is for me to know the experiences people has had with their displays, thus leading to the conclusion whether I am anal about this subject or not. Happy?

Thanks for the input though. :)
 
So what you actually want to know is what I thought of having a dead pixel then not how many I've had? I just put it down to bad luck and moved on. If I had a few of them, or even 1 stuck pixel I'd be angry. Dead pixels I can deal with but having a bright dot on my screen would drive me nuts. Not that it would matter Apple have a pretty shocking dead pixel policy. :D
 
risc said:
So what you actually want to know is what I thought of having a dead pixel then not how many I've had? I just put it down to bad luck and moved on. If I had a few of them, or even 1 stuck pixel I'd be angry. Dead pixels I can deal with but having a bright dot on my screen would drive me nuts. Not that it would matter Apple have a pretty shocking dead pixel policy. :D

Shocking as in send-it-back-get-a-new-one?

Hmmmm, I might have misunderstood the concept of dead and stuck pixels. Stuck is when they are white, dead is when they are black right? My subpixels are just blurred, so I guess they are stuck in some way?
 
A dead pixel is just that it is dead no colour. A stuck pixel is stuck on a certain colour so red, green, or blue. As for sending it back it really depends on the dead pixel policy your display manufacturer has. If your display has a zero dead pixel policy you should definitely send it back for no other reason than you can. :D

Apples policy is shocking as in CRAP. You need multiple dead pixels like 8 or so, or 6 bright pixels.
 
My screens:

Samsung 18" from about 3 or 5 years ago: No dead pixels or stuck subpixels

Dell 2005FPW (about 1 year old): No dead pixels or stuck subpixels

MacBook Pro (about 4 months old): No dead pixels or stuck subpixels

PowerBook (15" G4 1.25Ghz, my previous machine): No dead pixels or stuck subpixels

Am I just lucky?
 
robbieduncan said:
Am I just lucky?

If we are counting machines from the past I can put myself down for the following:

3 x Toshiba notebooks
4 x IBM notebooks
2 x Apple Notebooks (iBook, and PowerBook)
1 x iMac G5
3 x AL ACDs
2 x LCD HDTVs

1 of which had 1 dead pixel. So imo dead and stuck pixels are very rare.
 
My LG 17" has approximately zero dead pixels.
My LG 20.1" had approximately zero dead pixels.
My Macbook has approximately zero dead pixels.

I guess i'm lucky in this case, i've seen pictures of dead pixels and can imagine it would piss me off.
 
2x old Dell 20" LCD's, zero dead/stuck pixels.
4x Dell 2001FP 20" LCD's, zero dead/stuck pixels.
2x Sony 15" LCD's, zero dead/stuck pixels.
2x Dell laptops (15"), zero dead/stuck pixels.
2x Sony laptops (11" and 14" ish), zero dead/stuck pixels.
1x 23" Apple Cinema Display, zero dead/stuck pixels.
1x 30" Apple Cinema Display, zero dead/stuck pixels.

I once ordered one Samsung LCD panel for a family member, 17", which had a stuck bright pixel. I eventually replaced it for them with a Dell which again had zero dead/stuck pixels.

I'm in the 'dead pixels are fracking™ rare' camp.
 
robbieduncan said:
My screens:

Samsung 18" from about 3 or 5 years ago: No dead pixels or stuck subpixels

Dell 2005FPW (about 1 year old): No dead pixels or stuck subpixels

MacBook Pro (about 4 months old): No dead pixels or stuck subpixels

PowerBook (15" G4 1.25Ghz, my previous machine): No dead pixels or stuck subpixels

Am I just lucky?

No, you just got your hardware like the rest of us deserve to. (Lucker ;) )
 
I,ve got a powerbook that sometimes has a bright red stuck pixel but it does come unstuck for periods of time.

I've lots of stuff with dead pixels that have never bothered me:

imac, psp, archos...
 
Samsung 32 inch LCD HDTV: 0 stuck/dead pixels
Compaq R4225CA laptop(winblows:()0 Stuck or deadpixels
iMac: no stuck/dead pixels
Hp Pavilion MX704 monitor: o stuck or dead pixels

Am I just lucky? ;)
 
I,ve got a powerbook that sometimes has a bright red stuck pixel but it does come unstuck for periods of time.

I've lots of stuff with dead pixels that have never bothered me:

imac, psp, archos...
 
Fujitsu Siemens 14" TFT XGA Amilo Pro V1000. 1 stuck pixel out of 768.432 (1024x768)
Apple 13.3" TFT LCD MacBook. 0 dead pixels out of 1.024.000 (1280x800)
I have never seen any other TFT's or LCD's with any stuck/dead pixels, and I have seen many displays and TV's.
 
Wow, I feel somewhat special then that I get two stuck pixels in my new display.

Nevermind though, they are not bothering me, since they can only be noticed by sticking my nose to the display, focusing on the pixel and moving my head (not often do I do that when I work) :p

I don't know the pixel policy Dell has though. I might just call them and wreck some havoc anyway, maybe I will get something for it :D

Thx for all your replies!
 
I've gotten 4 LCDs up to this point. The one on this powerbook and 3 different Samsung LCDs for my parents. None of them have had pixel problems. I would take a display back for 1 dead pixel. It would drive me crazy.
 
Oh yeah, I did try widgets flashing blue-green-red and leaving it on for 15 minutes or so. I did hear something about them getting more stuck if you leave it on for more than 20 minutes.

Anything else I can do (I also tried the pixel massage).

I am also not sure if they are stuck or what. They are only blurry, as in some of the subpixels are dead I think (although they are equally blurry whether the background are white, red, green or blue), so I don't really know what's up with them.

Also, I can see refresh lines bulging down the display when idling on a certain color. What can cause this?
 
I haven't had much experience with LCDs, but if you have bulging refresh lines moving down your display, wouldn't that qualify as a reason for returning the LCD or at least repair?
 
I am contacting Dell this instant, the refresh lines are only in the left side of the display and only via DVI. I tried opening the same image (aqua) in the left side of the screen and no refresh lines. Could it be because of a faulty DVI cable?
 
Hoorray, after reading about how to fix the horizontal lines, I made them go away. Dell has a 5 dead pixel warranty, so no new display for me. Nevermind, I just installed Synergy with my iBook and I am drowing in screen space :D

Happy me!
 
at least 1 or 2 dead/stuck pixels on each computer/screen i've had. except my very first which was a 667MHz Titanium PowerBook. :D

and could someone please explain, what is a 'subpixel'?? :confused:
 
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