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iGav

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'John Carpenter's: The Fog' is one of my absolute bestest™ films... a perfect blend of Lovecraft'esque, lo-fi celluloid creepyness. :)

So I was incredulous when I first heard that a remake was in the pipeline :rolleyes: but I have to admit, I think it's looking pretty damn good judging by the trailer. :D

Trailer

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I always thought John Carpenter's version tapered off after a promising beginning — particularly with the 'phantom' events happening in the grocery store and elsewhere... it was sometime after that film that his golden touch deserted him.

As so often in horror films, once the nemesis is shown, it somehow lessens the creepiness.

This looks OK but nothing too special. Haven't seen an effective horror film for years — too much knowing irony and/or witless teens in peril with real nastiness sugar-coated to obtain that certificate that enables a wider release.
 
Blue Velvet said:
I always thought John Carpenter's version tapered off after a promising beginning — particularly with the 'phantom' events happening in the grocery store and elsewhere...

You know, I said almost exactly the same thing not long after I first started posting on MR. :)

I'd agree with you about Carpenter as well, he went downhill after 'Christine'.
 
On one hand, it makes no. 1 in US box office.
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds25271.html

On the other, Harry just absolutely loves it... not.


This might very well be my second most hated film I’ve seen in history.

My first would be, that abortion of a DVD special edition of NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD that Russo vomited into existence.

That film, you could almost forgive – under the pretense that a group of delusional mental midgets had a tiny sum of money and were desperate to re-establish copyright over the property. Of course that GREED was their primary motivation and utter ignorance their creative tool… can not be forgiven.

But here… With the remake of THE FOG, they had a budget. Now it certainly didn’t help that for some reason this film was rushed into production with a script by Cooper Layne that must have been obvious to all was a steaming pile of ****. I mean – folks – you have NO IDEA how excruciatingly awful this script is. At every point – it just breathlessly sucks the will to live from your mind.

In fact, I bet if I showed any of you Carpenter’s original FOG twice, then a month later said to you, “You have 1 day to write from memory a remake of THE FOG,” that you’d come up with something that made more sense, had more atmosphere and would be scarier. Never mind actually having 3 months with a professional screenwriter not named Cooper Layne.

But still… I have to imagine that had ANY of you been given this EXACT script to work with and HALF the budget of this film, you would have made 10 times the film.

Rupert Wainwright may be suffering from Head Trauma. The pipes in his kitchen may have a high lead content. He may, in fact, be a soulless automaton with no emotional basis for human interaction. I’m not sure what his problem is, but he is not a film director. Not close. He can not create atmosphere, he can not create a scary moment, he can not coax a genuine emotion from even the one “FANTASTIC” actress in the cast, much less a convincing cardboard performance from the others. Uwe Boll did a vastly superior job with that second piece of crap he directed.

This is just… horrifyingly awful.

I think, perhaps the reason why I reacted this badly was… Well, I love John Carpenter’s THE FOG. The other day I got sent the new DVD – which is essentially the exact same DVD as the last edition but with new cover art – btw. And I watched it about 5 times in a row. Now, the film isn’t the greatest damn horror film ever made… but it is a ghost story that comes from the spirit of my fave horror works… E.C. Comics. The cadaverous ghoulish creations that are back, pissed off and seeking revenge. The original film is attempting to be the greatest ghost yarn ever spun. From the John Houseman story to the top of the lighthouse tower – the film reeks of creeps.

Having said that, watching the film, you get the idea that the movie was rushed, underfinanced and half explored. BUT – for what is there, it is pretty ****ing great. For one, the casting was just perfect. Tom Atkins, Jamie Lee Curtis, Janet Leigh, Adrienne Barbeau, Hal Holbrook, John Houseman, Charles Cyphers. They all looked like a film cast.

In this new piece of **** you sure have a lot of vacuous mannequins masquerading as human beings.

Tom Welling? Oh yeah, he looks like a seaman. Perfectly manicured, shaved and doted over. Only thing he may have done near the sea was lay on a beach waxing a surfboard while talking about how someday he’d take it out for some wicked waves.

DeRay Davis – this “actor” plays Welling’s “Gilligan” afro-American jive-smack-hip-hop homie on da boat. “Why I gots to do all da work?” I **** YOU NOT. Later you’ll see him make off with a boat and a pair of “White wimmins” to shoot a reality tv program he wants to call “BUNS ON DA BOAT” This is a fisherman? A sailor? I know his character claims to be from Chicago, but what on Earth is a refugee from BARBERSHOP doing in a small ALL WHITE fishing community working under the Prom King? This is one of the most embarrassing racist characters I’ve seen in a horror film that isn’t going for parody.

Adrian Hough – Father Malone. Ok – remember Hal Holbrook? Now, imagine someone at the exact opposite extreme of talent. Devoid of any quality whatsoever. Primary acting talent is to STARE AT THE GROUND AWAITING A DIRECTOR TO SAY, “CUT!”

Jonathon Young – Dan the Weather Man. They literally cast someone that at the time he got this part, his most recent role was, “Bachelor Party Guy” from A GUY THING. There is ZERO charisma here. Terrible.

Maggie Grace – The Jamie Lee Curtis character. Ok, she’s beautiful. I’ll give ya that. But 9/10ths of what is required of her is to stand staring off into the distance… waiting desperately for the merciful edit that will eventually lead to a ridiculous flashback to random seafaring leper footage – which is actually a relief from the staring, but is without purpose or direction, only to be randomly interrupted by Maggie’s continual staring – before after 2-3 seconds someone touches her shoulder and she moves off camera.

Selma Blair – I love Selma Blair. I do. This is an actress with so much going on (in other films) and whom I always can’t wait to see on screen (usually) but in this… with one exception… is just completely flat. She’s playing the Adrienne Barbeau role of Stevie Wayne. First off – the music she plays SUCKS UNWIPED ASS! But – there’s no real difference between RADIO Stevie and MOTHER Stevie. Remember how this character was a great strong female protagonist? Remember how she stayed at the Lighthouse to update the town on where the FOG was going – so people would be warned? Remember how she needed NOBODY to save her? Remember how she never left the Light House and at the end was atop the thing fighting a losing battle with the undead in one of the scariest most tense ****ing scenes in cinema history? Ok – NONE OF THAT IS HERE! Selma Blair’s character abandons her post to run off to save her disobedient brat. She’s continually needing and wanting protection. And has a terrible RADIO voice. AND – She’s the best thing in the film, though it is the worst part and performance of her career.

The predator ghosts are lame, the actual make-up on the ghouls themselves aren’t bad, but because it’s transparent – it doesn’t scare like Rob Bottin’s Wormface. Instead of the HOOK hand – we get a back of a cane. Ahem. All of this is just dreadful.

The Fog. CG- Fog sucks. Sorry, it does. I never liked the long shots of the Fog in Carpenter’s original, but they’re so much better than this ****. At least John had the fog just kinda hang there in the long shots. Here, it’s moving really really fast… So, like in 20 seconds it would have enveloped the entire town – and they’d all be ****ed. Think of this as EXTREME Fog. UGH! Just terrible.

There wasn’t one moment of satisfaction with this film. Not one jump scare. Not a single genuine scary moment. Nothing worked. The Love Scene? Laugh out loud clumsy and dreadful.

One of the most incompetent worthless wastes of time, talent, energy and money. Without a single redeeming feature. Remember all those 90’s WB style Teen Horror films? This is far more terrible than ANY of those.

http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=21562
 
Maggie Grace... yummy.
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Blue Velvet said:
On one hand, it makes no. 1 in US box office.
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds25271.html

On the other, Harry just absolutely loves it... not.
Harry Knowles is a giant (ha ha) fan boy who's given to hyperbole... his reviews are only worth reading for any spoilers they might provide.

The fact that the producers of the film wouldn't allow critics to have advance screenings says enough for me...

Lacero said:
Maggie Grace... yummy.
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I agree... she's a hottie.
 
They wouldn't screen it for Ebert and Roeper, so they gave it the wagging finger of shame.

Has anyone actually seen it. I'm not expecting much, but the above reviewer seems to be very biased.
 
rickvanr said:
Ouch. The TV guide review confirmed my thoughts.

I like this one. :D


I was with the flick for the first 15 minutes or so, but that charity soon turned into contempt as I realized I was watching one of the most sloppily directed movies of the past five years. Film students could use this movie as a 100-minute example of "what not to do" when making a horror film. Actors simply wander around the CGI-laden screen, unsure of how to speak their lines or where to cast their eyes. Technical glitches and gaffes abound, and I'm not just referring to the truly atrocious special effects. The only thing that director Rupert Wainwright seems to enjoy is the sound of shattering glass; the foley artists on this flick deserve top billing (not that they'd want it). The CGI work is passable at best, amazingly bad at worst; 85% of the flick's budget seems to have been spent on really loud and clangy sound effects; and, as a whole, the movie feels like it was edited by a cough syrup junkie wielding a pair of rusty scissors.

http://efilmcritic.com/review.php?movie=13169&reviewer=128
 
Wowser, damn they're harsh. :eek:

But then, J.C.'s original got a massively panned at the time and I think it's pukka. ;) :D

I seldom read critics reviews anyway, I can think for myself... I don't need them telling me what constitutes a good or bad film etc etc.
 
Thsi just goes into the 30 year old pile of "Movies claiming to be horror but aren't scary at all." Not since the exorcist has a truely creepy, frightening movie been released.

My goal: To make a movie that literally makes women piss themselves, make men tremble in fear, and make children sleepless for months, afraid of being left with something so horrifying.

You can chock it up to desensitization, it's probably true. But that still doesn't mean I have to sit through these movies with a girl because it's a "horror" movie. Give me a ******** break.

I guess I should start work on MY "horror" film: Martha Stuart Does Maggie Thatcher. NOW THAT, is more horrific than any horror movie in a LONG TIME!
 
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