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The MacRumors Show: iOS 18.2 Ramps Up Apple Intelligence

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On this week's episode of The MacRumors Show, we discuss the first beta version of iOS 18.2 – a significant update that continues the rollout of Apple Intelligence.


iOS 18.1 will bring the first Apple Intelligence features to Apple devices. The update includes Writing Tools, the ability for Siri to answer Apple product questions, smart replies to emails and messages, audio transcripts, the Reduce Interruptions Focus Mode, and a new Clean Up tool in Photos, as well as email, text, and notification summaries. iOS 18.1 is expected to be officially released on Monday, October 28.


Ahead of this, Apple this week seeded the first beta version of iOS 18.2 to developers. The update further expands Apple Intelligence's capabilities, with new Mail app categories, Image Playground to generate pictures, Image Wand in Notes, Genmoji to create custom emojis, ChatGPT integration in Siri, Visual Intelligence on iPhone 16 models, expanded Writing Tools, and support for regional versions of English outside the United States.

The MacRumors Show has its own YouTube channel, so make sure you're subscribed to keep up with new episodes and clips:



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If you haven't already listened to the previous episode of The MacRumors Show, catch up for our discussion about the new iPad mini 7, Apple Intelligence and Genmoji, and the chances of an October Apple event to introduce M4 Macs.

Subscribe to The MacRumors Show for new episodes every week, where we discuss some of the topical news breaking here on MacRumors, often joined by interesting guests such as Luke Miani, Matthew Cassinelli, Brian Tong, Quinn Nelson, Kevin Nether, Jared Nelson, Eli Hodapp, Mike Bell, Sara Dietschy, iJustine, Jon Rettinger, Andru Edwards, Arnold Kim, Ben Sullins, Marcus Kane, Christopher Lawley, Frank McShan, David Lewis, Tyler Stalman, Jon Prosser, Sam Kohl, John Gruber, Federico Viticci, Thomas Frank, Jonathan Morrison, Ross Young, Ian Zelbo, and Rene Ritchie.

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36 hrs and counting. It wouldn’t surprise me if they grant us access till Monday after they release 18.1
 
What problem? This is a developer beta and they are going to release the feature to however many people they need at whichever pace they need. This is not a feature meant for the general public, Apple might decide to not give this feature to any new people until release and that would be okay. There is no problem.
 
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I wonder why there is no news or post regarding the fact that everyone is still waiting and only influencers and certain media outlets have access to the new image creation tools. I haven’t seen any independent developers with access to this new tool yet. Do they perhaps have a confidentiality clause about it?
 
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Hi! Content suggestion / request.

What I would appreciate seeing is a table that summarizes the Apple Intelligence rollout.

Ex., Column A shows what features have been announced, and Column B shows the date they were made available or are projected to become available. And complimenting that, is more information below the table that goes into more detail or links to existing articles that do.

I was envisioning it’s own separate page like the product round ups, with highlighted updates, and is linked/referred to at the bottom of each Apple Intelligence update article so people know it exists.

I believe that would help readers understand and digest how this rollout is shaping up.
 
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Question is why Macrumors has not made a piece about this ongoing problem??
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I was going to say the same thing. I’m wondering if there was some kind of special agreement aka a “pushed” release to the usual band of suspects to create buzz. The fact that these same folks haven’t commented on this has been disappointing and fueling this theory.
 
walkingm said:
I wonder why there is no news or post regarding the fact that everyone is still waiting and only influencers and certain media outlets have access to the new image creation tools. I haven’t seen any independent developers with access to this new tool yet. Do they perhaps have a confidentiality clause about it?
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At least an update that Apple has paused this release due to “unforeseen circumstances” would at least allay concerns that there was something wrong with the install.
 
I agree with Hartley, I do think it's bonkers the way that literally every advertisement I've seen for iPhone 16 features features that it can't do yet. Some of the features it can't even do with the betas. Might as well be those "Have you ever had dinner.... with your toaster? You will. And the company that will bring it to you, AT&T" commercials from the 90's.
 
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MacRumors said:


On this week's episode of The MacRumors Show, we discuss the first beta version of iOS 18.2 – a significant update that continues the rollout of Apple Intelligence.


iOS 18.1 will bring the first Apple Intelligence features to Apple devices. The update includes Writing Tools, the ability for Siri to answer Apple product questions, smart replies to emails and messages, audio transcripts, the Reduce Interruptions Focus Mode, and a new Clean Up tool in Photos, as well as email, text, and notification summaries. iOS 18.1 is expected to be officially released on Monday, October 28.


Ahead of this, Apple this week seeded the first beta version of iOS 18.2 to developers. The update further expands Apple Intelligence's capabilities, with new Mail app categories, Image Playground to generate pictures, Image Wand in Notes, Genmoji to create custom emojis, ChatGPT integration in Siri, Visual Intelligence on iPhone 16 models, expanded Writing Tools, and support for regional versions of English outside the United States.

The MacRumors Show has its own YouTube channel, so make sure you're subscribed to keep up with new episodes and clips:



You can also listen to The MacRumors Show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, or your preferred podcasts app. You can also copy our RSS feed directly into your podcast player.

​

If you haven't already listened to the previous episode of The MacRumors Show, catch up for our discussion about the new iPad mini 7, Apple Intelligence and Genmoji, and the chances of an October Apple event to introduce M4 Macs.

Subscribe to The MacRumors Show for new episodes every week, where we discuss some of the topical news breaking here on MacRumors, often joined by interesting guests such as Luke Miani, Matthew Cassinelli, Brian Tong, Quinn Nelson, Kevin Nether, Jared Nelson, Eli Hodapp, Mike Bell, Sara Dietschy, iJustine, Jon Rettinger, Andru Edwards, Arnold Kim, Ben Sullins, Marcus Kane, Christopher Lawley, Frank McShan, David Lewis, Tyler Stalman, Jon Prosser, Sam Kohl, John Gruber, Federico Viticci, Thomas Frank, Jonathan Morrison, Ross Young, Ian Zelbo, and Rene Ritchie.

The MacRumors Show is on X @MacRumorsShowhttps://twitter.com/macrumorsshow, so be sure to give us a follow to keep up with the podcast. You can also head over to The MacRumors Show forum thread to engage with us directly. Remember to rate and review the podcast, and let us know what subje... Click here to read rest of article

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Does Hartley like anything?????
 
Hartley has been on a roll the last couple of weeks. His rant about Apple's Marketing is spot on. It's something I've been thinking every time I watch something and see a Verizon Apple Intelligence commercial. The whole basis of the ad is Apple Intelligence, but Apple Intelligence hasn't come yet. I'm always annoyed by the phone ads this time of year (And I think that's they reason why we get new phones every year) but this year it has been egregious because they are advertising things that are not there. One would call that false advertising.
 
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Great podcast and discussion as always and baritone baby face Hartley dropping the knowledge bombs as always, apple intelligence is most definitely still missing the defining contextual awareness features. All the rest of the AI is nice but just superficial filler at this point.
 
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Kudos to Hartley for telling it like it is.
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I think he is missing the point of this integration. He is attempting to use chatGPT as if Apple is integrated into it. The Siri integration is specifically intended to get deeper responses that goes beyond Siri while maintaining privacy and security. Siri has been able to open apps since its inception and long before ChatGPT was even developed, so the proper solution would be to have Siri to open the app for you.
 
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Siri has been able to open apps since its inception and long before ChatGPT was even developed, so the proper solution would be to have Siri to open the app for you.
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I’ve not enabled ChatGPT for Siri so I’ve not tested this myself but the way I understood Harley’s complaint was that once you’d asked Siri to send a request to ChatGPT if you then asked Siri to open an app as the next request Siri is automatically sending that request to ChatGPT too rather than just processing it within the Siri infrastructure so the app open request fails.
 
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I think he is missing the point of this integration. He is attempting to use chatGPT as if Apple is integrated into it. The Siri integration is specifically intended to get deeper responses that goes beyond Siri while maintaining privacy and security. Siri has been able to open apps since its inception and long before ChatGPT was even developed, so the proper solution would be to have Siri to open the app for you.
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I don’t think he’s missing the point. He’s saying that the way it is implemented is inconvenient, to the point that it’s often more convenient and more pleasant to just use the regular ChatGPT app when going beyond Siri’s scope, and that the integration is a clunky and awkward experience for the casual non-technical user (which is most iPhone users).

As an example, regarding one aspect he noted about not being able to do Siri things once you’re in the ChatGPT context, Apple could have customized ChatGPT so that it detects when the command is something that should be handled by Siri, and then transparently redirects back to Siri. Instead, ChatGPT seems to be oblivious that it has been invoked via Siri.

Another criticism is that Siri’s text-to-speech quality (speaking voice) is much worse than ChatGPT’s (that alone is bad enough), but then you still get that worse experience in ChatGPT mode.

These are just two examples off the top of my head. It’s all very uneven, and not Apple’s touted “we’ll release it when it’s ready”, or “we are not the first, but we are the best”.
 
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Installed 18.2 but it doesn’t matter as I live in Sweden. It’s really frustrating that even changing region and language can’t help. Both Samsung and Google can release their AI in EU but world’s largest tech company can’t deliver it.
 
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Apple got caught snoring on AI. This was clear from the announcement of Apple intelligence. The features are minor and in my opinion many were already available on other services.
 
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Hartley is right. These piecemeal releases just confuse people. Most people did not watch the Apple event and most people will not read a breakdown from Apple about the new features. If they go to use Siri and it is just the lousy version we have now, they will think this new implementation of Siri is a failure. Apple needs to stop these types of releases. Finish Siri and then release it but please stop marketing for features and not produce them for months.
 
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Apple got caught snoring on AI.
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Snoring for more than 10 years. Siri was awesome on my iPhone 5, but then Apple put her on the back burner and even dumbed her down more at one or two points in time.
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This was clear from the announcement of Apple intelligence. The features are minor and in my opinion many were already available on other services.
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No, it was clear by the time the iPhone 6 came out.
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people don't have time for unfinished stuff​


well said Hartley
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Oh sure they do. That's why kickstarters are so popular. That's why I waited so patiently for 12 weeks for the manufacturing of the new windows at my house. That's why it took 6 weeks to get approval from my county to permit some work on my house.

And really, anything worth doing takes time. And it's unfinished until it's not.
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Hartley is right. These piecemeal releases just confuse people.
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That I can agree with. But really, nobody cares anymore. Every large and medium company is doing iterative development now. That means EVERYTHING is done in piecemeal releases.

Get used to it, it's a thing now, and supposedly runs on the timetable of the two-week sprint.
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Apple needs to stop these types of releases. Finish Siri and then release it but please stop marketing for features and not produce them for months.
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That would be the right thing to do. But Apple does everything the same as the rest of the world.

And really, I'm just glad that Siri only tries to murder me and make it look like an accident...what only about twice a month? Yeah, that's an improvement!
 
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