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iParis

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So one of my friends just posted a note on Facebook.
The title of this thread is actually the title of his note.
Anyways... I find it pretty interesting.

So I was reading an article on Proposition 8. Look at all these people and businesses who are against Proposition 8:

"While a Democratic presidential nominee and U.S. Senator, Barack Obama stated that he personally considers marriage to be between a man and woman, and supports civil unions that confer comparable rights rather than gay marriage, he stated that he opposed the proposition and other attempts to amend the federal and state constitutions. Democratic vice-presidential candidate Joseph Biden opposed the proposition. Republican California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger stated that although he opposed and twice vetoed legislative bills that would recognize same sex marriage in California, he respects and will uphold the court's ruling and opposes the initiative and other attempts to amend the state's constitution. The U.S. House Speaker, California Representative (8th District), Nancy Pelosi along with twenty other members of the 53 member California congressional delegation and both of California's U.S. senators, Dianne Feinstein and Barbara Boxer, voiced their opposition to Proposition 8, as did the Lieutenant Governor, State Controller John Chiang, 42 of 80 members of the state assembly, 20 of the 40 state senators and the mayors of San Francisco, Los Angeles, and San Diego: Gavin Newsom, Antonio Villaraigosa, and Jerry Sanders respectively. The nonpartisan League of Women Voters of California opposes Proposition 8 because "no person or group should suffer legal, economic or administrative discrimination."

All ten of the state's largest newspapers editorialized against Proposition 8: the Los Angeles Times, the San Francisco Chronicle, the San Diego Union-Tribune, The Orange County Register, The Sacramento Bee, the San Jose Mercury News, the Contra Costa Times, The Press-Enterprise (Riverside-San Bernardino), The Fresno Bee, and the Daily News (Los Angeles). Other papers to have editorialized in opposition include The New York Times, La Opinión (Los Angeles), and The Bakersfield Californian.

A coalition of Silicon Valley executives urged a 'No' vote on Proposition 8. Google officially opposed Proposition 8 "as an issue of equality." Apple Inc. also opposed Proposition 8 as a "fundamental" civil rights issue, and donated $100,000 to the No on 8 campaign. Biotech leaders warned of potential damage to the state's $73 billion industry, citing Massachusetts as a top competitor for employees.

All six Episcopal diocesan bishops in California jointly issued a statement opposing Proposition 8 on September 10, 2008. Southern California's largest collection of rabbis, the Board of Rabbis of Southern California, voted to oppose Proposition 8. Other Jewish groups who opposed Proposition 8 include Jewish Mosaic, the American Jewish Committee, Progressive Jewish Alliance, National Council of Jewish Women, and the Anti-Defamation League. Los Angeles Jews were more opposed to Prop 8 than any other religious group or ethnic group in the city. Jewish Angelinos voted 78 percent against the ban while only 8 percent supported the ban; the remainder declined to respond.

The Los Angeles Unified School District Board of Education voted unanimously for a resolution to oppose Proposition 8. The California Teachers Association donated one million dollars to fight Proposition 8. Chancellor Robert Birgeneau of UC Berkeley urged a vote against the measure, claiming a likely threat to California's academic competitiveness if Proposition 8 is passed.

Many members of the entertainment industry were opposed to Proposition 8."



And yet, despite all this, Proposition 8 was passed (but yay for Google and Apple!).

And as he stated, Proposition 8 was unfortunately passed.
 
I know, but if I posted it in one of those then not that many people would see it and it wouldn't really get much hype.
 
There are a myriad of threads on this issue:

Any news on Prop8? (closed)

Gay Marriage Supporters March on Los Angeles In Protest of Prop 8

Prop 8 protests across the US this Saturday!

Did Blacks Push CA Prop 8 Over the Top? (closed)


And, might I add, that the people don't always have the last say. This isn't over yet. ;)

I did a quick scan of those threads but didn't find anything about prop 8 passing, do you happen to know if that's mentioned in those threads eric?

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I know, but if I posted it in one of those then not that many people would see it and it wouldn't really get much hype.
Yeah I've been avoiding the other threads cause I refuse to get into an inane debate but I did want to know the result.
 
I did a quick scan of those threads but didn't find anything about prop 8 passing, do you happen to know if that's mentioned in those threads eric?

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Yeah I've been avoiding the other threads cause I refuse to get into an inane debate but I did want to know the result.
Yes, there are over 1,000 posts between those four threads; I assure you, the passage of Prop 8 is mentioned numerous times (and is, in fact, the entire topic of 3 of the 4 threads).
 
Anyone know the laws on gay common law marriage? is it not allowed in places that allow common law marriage but don't allow gay marriage? Just a question that came to mind.

EDIT-never mind according to what I found common law marriage only applies to heterosexual couples
 
I think it's ridiculous that the California constitution can be changed by a voter initiative bill earning a simple majority. Amendments to the U.S. Constitution require 75% of all state legislatures to pass it.
 
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