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Thought you guys would get a kick out of this...

jamesryanbell

jamesryanbell

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Got this in an email from a good friend of mine in Austin yesterday. I cut and pasted the good stuff.

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I was in the Apple Store yesterday, and had one of the guys there helping me. He was like "Bro, you need to sell your 15" MBP and get the new one! This new battery lasts between 7 and 8 hours...there's no way you're even going to get six out of the one you have." I say, "Well, that's true, but if I'm doing audio editing, I usually carry a second battery along with me. I actually have three total, just in case I need to work without plugging in". Then he replies with this little gem: "That's way too much of a hassle bro. You shouldn't need to work more than 7-8 hours on the battery. You just gotta find a plug after that much work. You shouldn't ever have to shut down and change your battery out. That's crazy. " LOL.

So I respond with "Well, I do...and with my current one I already have more than one battery, and it works fine....why would I need to upgrade? I just bought it less than two months ago."

I kid you not, he just turns, shakes his head, and walks away from me....like I did something wrong. Wow. That's a first.

That's the only time that's every happened to me in an Apple store. I should've said something to management, but I didn't. I thought it was funny at the time.

Is that not ridiculous?

Mark

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WTH?!?! hahahahah

-- Ryan
 
Wow, that's funny. It's especially funny that the guy just shook his head and turned around. I can't decide whether he was trying to guilt your friend into buying a new laptop or if he was just one of those few crazy people who buy a new computer every time a new model comes out.
 
Well, it was an Apple store employee/salesman saying all that. Can't expect otherwise, can we? ;)

Sadly, it is now common knowledge that Apple is not targeting the traditional "pros" that use computers in that way anymore.

More the facebook using, websurfing, blogging, word document typing "pros" that will probably get 7 hours and have enough computer use by then.
 
Your friend could be me.

I bought my MBP in May 2009 before the latest update. I also bought 2 extra batteries, so now I have 15 +/- hours of battery time where the newbies only have 8! ;) I liked the configuration, it fit my needs perfectly and I wasn't so sure a post WWDC notebook would work for me. I was right.

Yeah I have to lug around 2 extra batteries, but even at over 50 years of age I am not so weak that it makes a difference !!!

In fact I may go to the Apple Store soon and sell the salesperson on the idea that my "old" MBP is better than the new ones! :lol:
 
harcosparky said:
I also bought 2 extra batteries, so now I have 15 +/- hours of battery time where the newbies only have 8! ;)
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Out of curiosity, can you charge all of them at once with some kind of external charger or do you have to do it one by one with the MBP?

There is a feature I really liked on the PowerBook G4 where it would last a couple of minutes in sleep mode without a battery so you wouldn't have to shut down to swap batteries. Does the MBP still have this?
 
173080 said:
Out of curiosity, can you charge all of them at once with some kind of external charger or do you have to do it one by one with the MBP?

There is a feature I really liked on the PowerBook G4 where it would last a couple of minutes in sleep mode without a battery so you wouldn't have to shut down to swap batteries. Does the MBP still have this?
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Yes, all of the laptops have this. It's what is called "hybernate sleep mode". When you put your computer to sleep, the contents of the RAM are backed up onto the hard drive. You are then able to remove the battery and replace it for a new one. When you boot up again, you mac will be "restored" into its previous state. Also, you can leave your battery out for more than just a few minutes. Actually, you could leave it out for as long as you like since the RAM is backed up on the hard drive.
 
Warranty Voider said:
Yes, all of the laptops have this. It's what is called "hybernate sleep mode". When you put your computer to sleep, the contents of the RAM are backed up onto the hard drive. You are then able to remove the battery and replace it for a new one. When you boot up again, you mac will be "restored" into its previous state. Also, you can leave your battery out for more than just a few minutes. Actually, you could leave it out for as long as you like since the RAM is backed up on the hard drive.
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No, no. It was different than hibernate sleep. It would not dump RAM contents to the hard drive. It kept the RAM powered up although the battery was out. It was way quicker than hibernation.

I disabled hibernation on mine because waiting for the computer to dump 4GB to the hard drive while it goes to sleep is really annoying.
 
173080 said:
No, no. It was different than hibernate sleep. It would not dump RAM contents to the hard drive. It kept the RAM powered up although the battery was out. It was way quicker than hibernation.

I disabled hibernation on mine because waiting for the computer to dump 4GB to the hard drive while it goes to sleep is really annoying.
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Oh, I have no idea then. I've never heard of that before. It sounds like it would be an awesome feature though.
 
173080 said:
No, no. It was different than hibernate sleep. It would not dump RAM contents to the hard drive. It kept the RAM powered up although the battery was out. It was way quicker than hibernation.

I disabled hibernation on mine because waiting for the computer to dump 4GB to the hard drive while it goes to sleep is really annoying.
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wow, where would the ram get power from then ??

i have hibernate disabled too, i never leave it in sleep if i know ill be away for more than 2hours
 
173080 said:
No, no. It was different than hibernate sleep. It would not dump RAM contents to the hard drive. It kept the RAM powered up although the battery was out. It was way quicker than hibernation.

I disabled hibernation on mine because waiting for the computer to dump 4GB to the hard drive while it goes to sleep is really annoying.
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wow, is it true ?, can you explain more ?, i didn't have this mode. (late 08, UMBP.)
 
173080 said:
Out of curiosity, can you charge all of them at once with some kind of external charger or do you have to do it one by one with the MBP?
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Actually we are working on a charging system to do just this.

In my past life I was in Eletcronics Engineering and working on power sources was something I did for too long.

In my hobby life I am a FCC licensed Radio Amateur. For radio gear I have built several charging stations there were Solar Powered for field use. Of course most radio gear uses straight 12 VDC into the chargers so a Solar Cell setup was too simple to create.

This is not the case for the Apple Macbook Pro battery, it will take a little circuit design work to finish it off. Not wanting to tear into my new notebook I am busy scouring the web for information about the charging needs from sites like iFixit and others.

We did design one for Apple iBooks some time ago, but we acquired a trashed iBook that had a working charge circuit as a 'donor'.

Optimally I want to design a 2 station charging system with 3 batteries. One in the notebook, and two on the charger. Solar Power would also be a primary goal with the option of plugging in an AC adapter on rainy days.

That will be the easy part, designing the charge station will take a bit more work though.

The reason for all this work, I have a cabin in the woods that does not have a commercial power feed anymore. It's run off of a bank of batteries and solar power ( solar power for day use and solar charging of batteries for night/rainy day use ), and uses a lot of 12VDC 'appliances' donated from several old RV's.
 
jamesryanbell said:
...I kid you not, he just turns, shakes his head, and walks away from me....like I did something wrong....
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...sounds like my experience at 4 Sony life stores in the Dallas TX area ~6 years ago = 3 months after I bought my Sony Vaio PCG-TR3A while trying to buy a spare OEM battery for it... they told me I had an old model computer and Sony no longer supported it so I had to get a 3rd party aftermarket battery:mad: (it was still the current model in their stores)...
 
If your battery runs low while you are working, attach your power adapter and let the
battery recharge. Even if your computer is not connected to a power adapter, you can
quickly change batteries without shutting down or saving your work by putting your
PowerBook to sleep and replacing the battery with a charged one. Your PowerBook
provides enough power to maintain the contents of RAM for up to three minutes while
you change the battery.
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wow...
 
I don't get what's so funny...

The Apple guy was just telling your friend he was nuts for carrying so many freaking batteries around. (Which I agree with).

If your friend is that dependent on batteries, I can see where this guy is coming from.
 
Richard1028 said:
I don't get what's so funny...

The Apple guy was just telling your friend he was nuts for carrying so many freaking batteries around. (Which I agree with).

If your friend is that dependent on batteries, I can see where this guy is coming from.
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Well, I found the humor in the guy's "broski" responses.

:p
 
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