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Tiger King: Murder, Mayhem and Madness (Netflix) Discussion Thread

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So now that most of the US (and much of the world) is in some sort of social distancing scenario, Netflix has decided that we all need to be made extremely uncomfortable by what comes on our television. This show is the weirdest thing I have ever seen.

While Netflix's wildly-watchable true crime docuseries Tiger King focuses on colorful former roadside zookeeper Joseph Maldonado-Passage, better known as Joe Exotic, it also tells the story of sanctuary owner Carole Baskin, who, alongside her husband Howard, owns and operates Tampa's Big Cat Rescue.
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Anyway, this thing is the ultimate meme of a documentary that follows the lives of lunatics for about 5 years.
 
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I’ve heard this is an incredible series. I’ve been meaning to start it but I haven’t had the chance. It sounds fascinating.
 
So entertaining, so very weird. If you tried to write a drama with characters like this, I can't imagine many networks giving you the green light.
Have any of American friends been to either of theses 'Zoo's"?
 
It's been hard to ignore, Netflix constantly pushes it to the top preview when the app opens, and it's been getting coverage __everywhere__!

OK, geez, I guess I have to watch now.
 
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Tiger king explains Florida......
 
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This show is c-a-razy. And I was here sitting at home in isolation thinking how my life is, but these individuals got bigger issues. They all like to create and live in drama.
 
Just finished semi-binge watching it.

I do remember seeing Joe Exotic on John Oliver when he ran for President. But no idea what the "rest" of the story was.

Some takeaways:

1) Joe must have had the worst public defender lawyer in history. Seems like he got the maximum sentence on every charge. And a Jury that deliberates for 20 minutes?

2) What the hell does the rest of the world think of Americans while watching that? There was a time when I thought America's streets were paved with gold.

3) Lions, tigers, and other big cats are magnificent beasts. But I never dreamed of "petting" one, even a cub. They should never have to live in any sort of captivity at all. Maybe a few in world-class zoos for research and genetic preservation.
 
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4) There are more tigers in captivity in the US than in the wild.

5) It doesn't appear to take a lot of collateral to qualify for a Ferrari loan.
 
motm95 said:
there sure are a lot of weirdos in the show, that's for sure.
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There certainly seemed to be a fair number of emotionally and/or physically damaged people.

The other thing that struck me was this: Pretty much all of the animal-park owning people seemed to manipulate and use other people. To the point of being what I'd term psychopaths. The guy in Carolina with his harem. Joe with his husbands and employees. Joe's ill-advised business "partner" Jeff. Even Carole seemed to take great advantage of the people in her life, including the "cats and kittens" that tune into her Facebook shows.

I wonder if sometimes people who get overly attached to animals do so because they have trouble forming healthy relationships with the humans in their life.
 
I binged the entire series. It was OK. Just OK.

It really picked up for me in episode 3 when we started hearing about Carole’s missing ex-husband. And again near the end when the FBI got involved.

The series is over 5 hours long… but they probably could have cut it down to around 2 hours… in my opinion.

I don’t think it lived up to the hype of the trailer and all the memes we’re seeing on social media.
 
Michael Scrip said:
The series is over 5 hours long… but they probably could have cut it down to around 2 hours… in my opinion.
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It did seem a long to me also. But the story kept on getting weirder and weirder. What part could they have just left out? Joe's political campaigns? Carole's missing husband? The roles of Jeff and his strip-club owning frenemy?

I struggle, mightily, to think of any of the major characters I actually felt that I liked and/or admired. I felt pity for most of Joe's employee, probably the two that had lost limbs most of all. I even found myself disliking the Federal prosecutor. She wasn't crazy or psychotic. But I felt that a better lawyer, and a better human being, wouldn't have sent someone like Joe
"to prison for the rest of his life"
That wasn't justice, in any sense of the word.
 
vrDrew said:
What part could they have just left out?
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I don't know. You're right... there were a lot of elements in the story.

The trailer looked amazing. Almost funny even. With playful music. And the constant barrage all over Facebook last weekend got me interested.

But when I got to the end... I felt like it didn't live up to the hype. (and it definitely wasn't funny... sad really...)

Most "true crime" series are sad, though. So I shouldn't have been surprised. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
vrDrew said:
It did seem a long to me also. But the story kept on getting weirder and weirder. What part could they have just left out? Joe's political campaigns? Carole's missing husband? The roles of Jeff and his strip-club owning frenemy?

I struggle, mightily, to think of any of the major characters I actually felt that I liked and/or admired. I felt pity for most of Joe's employee, probably the two that had lost limbs most of all. I even found myself disliking the Federal prosecutor. She wasn't crazy or psychotic. But I felt that a better lawyer, and a better human being, wouldn't have sent someone like Joe
"to prison for the rest of his life"
That wasn't justice, in any sense of the word.
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There were only 2;
  1. Kelci Saffery, the woman who lost her arm.
  2. Erik Cowie, the head animal keeper at GW Zoo - I think he's in the wrong line of work, but he appeared to care more about the animals than anyone else.
 
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