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Sounds early to me for what we've been hearing about builds, but I'm no expert on this stuff. If it comes out in March, that would equal the 15-month gap between 10.2 and 10.3.
 
maya said:
It could or could not be, maybe a coincidence who knows.

There have been multiple threads of this nature in regards to publishing dates on Amazon. :)

Most Tiger books are showing a publish date of either 3/24 or 3/25.

I use to be excited about that little "find," but I suspect it is just a generic publishing date and could easily change.

Given the recent rumors of new found functionality in the Tiger builds, including the fact that Steve was using a build at MWSF that is more current than what developers have seen, I suspect Apple is still in development mode, and will start a true beta some time in February.

My bet nowadays is we will see Tiger released at WWDC. Apple can demo to the press and developers new functionality not show publicly, and get developers fired up to build apps for Tiger.

Given this is the last OS upgrade for a couple of years, I am happy to have Apple put as much into Tiger as possible. I'll gladly wait until June for a markedly better OS with tons of new features, less bugs, and more security due diligence.
 
BWhaler said:
Most Tiger books are showing a publish date of either 3/24 or 3/25.

I use to be excited about that little "find," but I suspect it is just a generic publishing date and could easily change.

Given the recent rumors of new found functionality in the Tiger builds, including the fact that Steve was using a build at MWSF that is more current than what developers have seen, I suspect Apple is still in development mode, and will start a true beta some time in February.

My bet nowadays is we will see Tiger released at WWDC. Apple can demo to the press and developers new functionality not show publicly, and get developers fired up to build apps for Tiger.

Given this is the last OS upgrade for a couple of years, I am happy to have Apple put as much into Tiger as possible. I'll gladly wait until June for a markedly better OS with tons of new features, less bugs, and more security due diligence.

You can count on a late beta test for Tiger or a early March.

It should be released sometime late April, early May.

Is it me or has Apple placed some advertising emphases on NAB on they site. Not sure if this was prominent in the past, its just a thought. :)
 
maya said:
Is it me or has Apple placed some advertising emphases on NAB on they site. Not sure if this was prominent in the past, its just a thought. :)

It has certainly grown markedly in the past few years. Once Apple balked at MacWorld Boston (after the whole IDC fiasco), they seemed to immediately increase the profile of WWDC and bump up their participation in NAB.
 
Duff-Man says....all this stuff has been covered before...Apple does not release things based on what book publishers, Amazon etc say....those people make up dates dates that come and go and change all the time.....oh yeah!
 
Really no one knows. And I think Steve Jobs is really cracking down to make sure we don't. Though people have thought that the 10.3.8 update maybe a signal to an update.

To be honest, I feel like Apple's crackdown on the Tiger seeds probably means a closer release than we think, since from what I've read past lawsuits have all been on items/leaks on things close to release.
 
Punani said:
Really no one knows. And I think Steve Jobs is really cracking down to make sure we don't. Though people have thought that the 10.3.8 update maybe a signal to an update.

To be honest, I feel like Apple's crackdown on the Tiger seeds probably means a closer release than we think, since from what I've read past lawsuits have all been on items/leaks on things close to release.

Yeah I am sure a random bug in the middle of a Keynote with the most latest build that is not even released to developers, signals that its going to be released real soon. :rolleyes: ;) :)
 
Many publishing cycles are on a financial year basis so if the book is budgeted & planned for in the financial year Apr2004 – Apr2005 then it will be printed before Apr2005 or as soon as possible thereafter...

It also make sense to have those books on the shelves and in the warehouses long before the product is released as consumers might want to buy a book when they buy Tiger.

There are also promotional considerations. Advertising for the book and sending out review copies also takes time...

So in all, this announcement in itself means nothing.
I think following the reports of developers and the frequency of releases is more reliable... you know we will hear when it's gone gold – the news will be all over this forum like a rash.
 
Hit

Well the Mac mini is going to be a big hit, that means that Apple is going to introduce Tiger as late as possible! ( June! x sold Mac mini's x $129! ) :eek:
 
matthew24 said:
Well the Mac mini is going to be a big hit, that means that Apple is going to introduce Tiger as late as possible! ( June! x sold Mac mini's x $129! ) :eek:

You have that right, I can't wait to have tiger on my Mini, I have 130$ ready and waiting apple, you earned it!
 
rosalindavenue said:
Is there a date for WWDC yet? Googling does not find one. I would think that logistically, you'd have to have a convention center reserved by now......
The last week of June, I believe.
 
miloblithe said:
Sounds early to me for what we've been hearing about builds, but I'm no expert on this stuff. If it comes out in March, that would equal the 15-month gap between 10.2 and 10.3.
Panther was released at the end of October '03. In fact 10.3.1 was out in early November '03. March '05 would make it 17 months between releases. I'm hoping Tiger is out at least a month or two before WWDC. Who knows.
 
daveL said:
Panther was released at the end of October '03. In fact 10.3.1 was out in early November '03. March '05 would make it 17 months between releases. I'm hoping Tiger is out at least a month or two before WWDC. Who knows.

Sadly not even Steve Jobs can predict bugs. :(


The Tiger development team is already on a deadline so why worry. :)
 
maya said:
Sadly not even Steve Jobs can predict bugs. :(


The Tiger development team is already on a deadline so why worry. :)
I just hope they don't slip. I have an ADC Select membership ($500/yr), which I'm not sure I'll be renewing come July 1st, due to money constraints. As part of my membership, I get all OS seeds and GM releases. Getting a GM OS release for free is one way I justify the membership cost, so I don't want the Tiger release to slip past July 1st. I also get a 20% HW discount, which is the other way I justify the membership cost, but I just got a 2x2.5 GHz PM in September, so I don't think I'll be buying anything else in the near future. Well, unless the G5 PBs come out :)
 
daveL said:
I just hope they don't slip. I have an ADC Select membership ($500/yr), which I'm not sure I'll be renewing come July 1st, due to money constraints. As part of my membership, I get all OS seeds and GM releases. Getting a GM OS release for free is one way I justify the membership cost, so I don't want the Tiger release to slip past July 1st. I also get a 20% HW discount, which is the other way I justify the membership cost, but I just got a 2x2.5 GHz PM in September, so I don't think I'll be buying anything else in the near future. Well, unless the G5 PBs come out :)

The last I looked the first of half of 2005 means through June 30th. So even if they stick to their word and wait till the last day, you'll have an opportunity to get it on the current membership.
 
I'm so looking forward to Tiger. Dashboard, CoreImage and QT 7 with H.264 are the biggest things for me. Plus at NAB when they introduce FCP 5.0 I am giddy like a little school girl. :)
 
gopher said:
The last I looked the first of half of 2005 means through June 30th.
That's why I said: "I just hope they don't slip." I'm fine, if they come in on schedule.
 
Perhaps this is a dead horse...but I just wanted to put one more thought into this thread.

NAB is in April, and there are predictions that Apple is going to launch Final Cut Pro 5 there (After all this is the year of HD*)...it's likely it's going to require Quicktime 7 because of numerous deficiencies in Quicktime 6 (e.g. Quicktime does not have proper 5.1 audio support).

*Yes I know there's Final Cut Pro HD, but that's not really a major upgrade. It's a stop-gap.
 
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