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Tiger speed on a "Smurf tower"? (a PowerMac G3/350)
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nagromme said:
I'd like to know, too. My parents have a B&W G3 with 10.1 and I'm trying to get them to upgrade.
Winstonp said:
I don't know if upgrading hardware is really necessary for my parents. All they do is use Word, Excel, internet, email, and do taxes. They seem to be doing well as it is, but I'm wondering if they'll benefit much from Tiger and some new RAM.
I'm really curious to know the answer to this as well. I've got a 500mhz iMac, running jaguar. Should i go for tiger or try to just get a cheap copy of panther somewhere. And please, don't bother with the "get a new computer" remarks. If you could pay for my next imac and either disassemble my old one into easily recyclable pieces or find someone who could make use of this "antiquated", 4 year old computer, I'll upgrade my hardware. Until then, I'd just like to know if I can benefit from this fine new piece of software apple's putting out.
i was making a comment about tiger on a G3. Not the G3. tiger is very demanding. they'll get alot of beach balls.
I've just used it for a day now, but my G3 got a mild speed increase.
It's 400mhz G3, 768mb RAM, 64mb Radeon 7000
It got an XBench score of 37.15 on 10.3.9 and a 38.90 on Tiger. Seems a bit snappier, felt even better with PCI Extreme on it (which is not a good idea if they do anything with video playing).
Still shaking out the bugs, though.
It's 400mhz G3, 768mb RAM, 64mb Radeon 7000
It got an XBench score of 37.15 on 10.3.9 and a 38.90 on Tiger. Seems a bit snappier, felt even better with PCI Extreme on it (which is not a good idea if they do anything with video playing).
Still shaking out the bugs, though.
Like nagromme implies, it's going to depend on how much RAM you have.
In my experience, if you're dealing with less than 256MB, then you probably want to stop at 10.2--it just handles limited RAM better than 10.3 (or, I assume, Tiger), and it's MUCH faster than 10.1. 10.3 will run better than 10.2, but only with sufficient RAM (probably 384MB or more).
Tiger probably likes RAM too (how much, I haven't seen reports yet), but I don't know how it's going to feel speed-wise on a G3, seen, though I may install a copy on an old iMac just to see. Definitely faster than 10.3 on a G5, but that doesn't necessarily translate.
In my experience, if you're dealing with less than 256MB, then you probably want to stop at 10.2--it just handles limited RAM better than 10.3 (or, I assume, Tiger), and it's MUCH faster than 10.1. 10.3 will run better than 10.2, but only with sufficient RAM (probably 384MB or more).
Tiger probably likes RAM too (how much, I haven't seen reports yet), but I don't know how it's going to feel speed-wise on a G3, seen, though I may install a copy on an old iMac just to see. Definitely faster than 10.3 on a G5, but that doesn't necessarily translate.
jayscheuerle
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nagromme said:
I will let you know.. MY G4 upgraded B&W has tiger installed.. I will dig up and re-install the G3 350 MHZ this afternoon. I am curious myself as well.
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I've got that system!
Yeah, I'm running 10.4 on my B/W G3/400mHz/Rage 128. Its running a Netware wireless card (I think) and it is no different than Panther.
Its actually a 350mHz machine, but I overclocked it about 2 days after getting it back in 1999.
I have 450mb of RAM , and I do notice a slight boost in the responsiveness to the system. Safari runs better. Dashboard runs OK, but I don't find myself using it too much at this time. Expose (I use all the time) is no different, it chugs, but gets the job done.
All in all, I would say Tiger is Better than Panther on my G3/400 w/450mb RAM.
nagromme said:
Yeah, I'm running 10.4 on my B/W G3/400mHz/Rage 128. Its running a Netware wireless card (I think) and it is no different than Panther.
Its actually a 350mHz machine, but I overclocked it about 2 days after getting it back in 1999.
I have 450mb of RAM , and I do notice a slight boost in the responsiveness to the system. Safari runs better. Dashboard runs OK, but I don't find myself using it too much at this time. Expose (I use all the time) is no different, it chugs, but gets the job done.
All in all, I would say Tiger is Better than Panther on my G3/400 w/450mb RAM.
jayscheuerle
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Depends what you're used to, I guess. I'm amazed how heavily he uses it. And for stability and features, he finds it worth not booting to OS 9 which he also has installed.
He hasn't wanted to put more money into that old machine, but the time has come, maybe. I'd have upgraded sooner, but that's just me
He hasn't wanted to put more money into that old machine, but the time has come, maybe. I'd have upgraded sooner, but that's just me
I use Panther on my 400Mhz B&W with 256MB of RAM... Smoooooooooth
Haven't got around to putting Tiger atm, since I've loaned it to a friend for the time being.
Haven't got around to putting Tiger atm, since I've loaned it to a friend for the time being.
jayscheuerle
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Winstonp said:
Thats a blanket statement. From what I have seen, as long as you have > 256MB ram and >3GB of free hard drive space, tiger runs faster than panther on all supported mac hardware.
I don't see why you would not want to upgrade you G3 to tiger, or at least panther. Apple has done alot of work to the core sub-system since 10.1, and everything is faster.
nagromme said:
Can't help ya there, I haven't used 10.1 since, jeez ummmm, 2002? Is that when it was out? Even then I still used 9.2.2 because all (practically all) my programs worked only in that OS.
Sorry.
Makosuke said:
I'd say more than 384MB. On my 400mHz, Titanium Powerbook with 384MB Jaguar ran noticeably smoother than Panther does. Panther is far from unusable, but even too many Safari tabs can cause slowdown, and I can hardly multitask anymore.
Dumbest... Comment... Ever.....Winstonp said:
PB G3 500MHz 384MB RAM 12Gig HD. 8MB VRAM
Speed:
9<10.2<10.3<10.4
Memory
10.2<10.4<10.3<9
Apps
9<10.2<10.3<10.4 (Most 10.3 work on 10.4)
No reason to upgrade this baby. 10.5 may be a different matter, that thats 18 or so months away - by that time this laptop will be 6 1/2 years old.