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Apple CEO Tim Cook took the stage at Cisco Live in Las Vegas today, sitting down with Cisco CEO Chuck Robbins to discuss the ongoing partnership between the two companies that has leveraged Apple's expertise in devices and apps and Cisco's strength in networking and enterprise tools.

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Wow! @tim_cook and @ChuckRobbins announcing our IOS security partnership at #CLUS! https://t.co/izPv9neWvZ pic.twitter.com/AD1LUjhwBa - ? David Ulevitch ? (@davidu) June 26, 2017
During the session, Cook argued that business customers who use the integrated Apple-Cisco ecosystem should be granted a benefit in the form of lower cybersecurity insurance premiums, reports Reuters.
"The thinking we share here is that if your enterprise or company is using Cisco and Apple, that the combination of these should make that (cyber-security) insurance cost significantly less," Cook said. "This is something we're going to spend some energy on. You should reap that benefit."
Cisco also announced its upcoming Cisco Security Connector program for iOS devices, launching later this year.
Expected to be released in the fall of 2017, the Cisco Security Connector is designed to deliver the deepest visibility, control, and privacy for iOS devices. The Cisco Security Connector offers organizations the most granular view of what is happening on enterprise-owned mobile devices and provides the best protection for users, anywhere they travel. With the Cisco Security Connector, businesses will now have the ability to meet risk and compliance requirements from auditors and ultimately expand iOS adoption in new ways. [...]

With the Cisco Security Connector, organizations gain the following:

- Visibility: Ensure compliance of mobile users and their enterprise-owned iOS devices during incident investigations by rapidly identifying what happened, whom it affected, and the risk exposure.
- Control: Protect users of iOS devices from connecting to malicious sites on the internet, whether on the corporate network, public Wi-Fi, or cellular networks.
- Privacy: Safeguard corporate data and users by encrypting internet (DNS) requests.
Cisco says it collaborating with insurance companies on "more robust policies" for customers taking advantage of continuous security monitoring based on technologies from Apple and Cisco.

Article Link: Tim Cook Appears Onstage at Cisco Live to Debut New Enterprise Security Partnership
 
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I'm just hoping that this leads to a better solution to managing enterprise devices than what we currently have. Mac, iOS devices; I've yet to see an enterprise managed offering that isn't horrible, in the sense that it slows everything down or reduces stability.
 

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So Timmy thinks all enterprise needs is increased security?

Apple will never be more than a minor niche in enterprise as long as they think forcing everyone to the latest OS is a good idea. Enterprise always has obscure old software that won't run on the latest but is essential to their business. Updating is something that has a major effect across the company and it needs to be up to their IT and management when it makes business sense to make the change.

Companies cannot afford to upgrade on their vendors timeframe.

But with good ole Apple, when you keep your OS a few versions back it breaks compatibility with a whole bunch of apps just because Timmy says so. Not to mention, let's say I've got a shop running Mountain Lion that's been running fine for years and I need to add 20 new macs. I'd be completely screwed if I were running Apple.
 
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I'll admit I was surprised when Tim was introduced, but it did sound like Cisco and Apple are working together on security, which is good. Tim even made a joke about the Apple/Cisco partnership making things more secure than with "that other mobile operating system". That got some laughs from the audience.
 
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So Timmy thinks all enterprise needs is increased security?

Apple will never be more than a minor niche in enterprise as long as they think forcing everyone to the latest OS is a good idea. Enterprise always has obscure old software that won't run on the latest but is essential to their business. Updating is something that has a major effect across the company and it needs to be up to their IT and management when it makes business sense to make the change.

Companies cannot afford to upgrade on their vendors timeframe.

But with good ole Apple, when you keep your OS a few versions back it breaks compatibility with a whole bunch of apps just because Timmy says so. Not to mention, let's say I've got a shop running Mountain Lion that's been running fine for years and I need to add 20 new macs. I'd be completely screwed if I were running Apple.

You are obviously expert, maybe you can find job at IBM as consultant, and teach them that they are all wrong.. :)
check this in the meantime: http://www.computerworld.com/articl...-are-even-cheaper-to-run-than-it-thought.html
 

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You are obviously expert, maybe you can find job at IBM as consultant, and teach them that they are all wrong.. :)
check this in the meantime: http://www.computerworld.com/articl...-are-even-cheaper-to-run-than-it-thought.html

And I wonder when we finally get the chance to read an article about IBM (Japan) and their Macs and what software they are actually using on those Macs. Does the software that they are using live exclusively in the web browser? Is it some Java app (of which IBM has written and released countless numbers)? It's another of those articles that throw around numbers about savings without substantiating that with any actual data or background information. (Not that it matters for such an advertisement piece of journalism.)

The IBM employee that I saw this morning on the ICE to Munich didn't know about those Macs that her company seems to champion for quite some while now - she was doing her PowerPoint with a fat IBM logo on it on a Windows machine. But, well. This is Germany, not Japan. It might take them a few more years here to catch up with the hype.
 

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So Timmy thinks all enterprise needs is increased security?

Apple will never be more than a minor niche in enterprise as long as they think forcing everyone to the latest OS is a good idea. Enterprise always has obscure old software that won't run on the latest but is essential to their business. Updating is something that has a major effect across the company and it needs to be up to their IT and management when it makes business sense to make the change.

Companies cannot afford to upgrade on their vendors timeframe.

But with good ole Apple, when you keep your OS a few versions back it breaks compatibility with a whole bunch of apps just because Timmy says so. Not to mention, let's say I've got a shop running Mountain Lion that's been running fine for years and I need to add 20 new macs. I'd be completely screwed if I were running Apple.

You wouldn't want to work where I do then. When Sierra came out, we were given 90 days to upgrade. When Office patches come out, we usually get 1-2 weeks. With Windows 10, we were given longer, but we have to upgrade by the end of this year.

You wouldn't want to work for Cisco, either. Every one of their presenters is using a MBP. Hands-on labs are mostly using them as well, with a few labs using NUCs instead.
 
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So Timmy thinks all enterprise needs is increased security?

Apple will never be more than a minor niche in enterprise as long as they think forcing everyone to the latest OS is a good idea. Enterprise always has obscure old software that won't run on the latest but is essential to their business. Updating is something that has a major effect across the company and it needs to be up to their IT and management when it makes business sense to make the change.

Companies cannot afford to upgrade on their vendors timeframe.

But with good ole Apple, when you keep your OS a few versions back it breaks compatibility with a whole bunch of apps just because Timmy says so. Not to mention, let's say I've got a shop running Mountain Lion that's been running fine for years and I need to add 20 new macs. I'd be completely screwed if I were running Apple.
Then it's time for enterprise to start taking things seriously and update their software, for security reasons if nothing else.

It's a testament to the lack of technological progress in the traditional enterprise setting that my above sentence sounds extremely silly. No, Apple doesn't need to bend over backwards to support decades-old software, and not because "Timmy says so", either. Effort spent on extreme backwards compatibility is effort that doesn't get placed on making new APIs and operating systems even better. People seem to think that Apple can just place a pile of cash on a computer and the code will just write itself, but the truth is that more developers doing more things absolutely does not mean cleaner, more polished, and more fully-featured software. You have to make priority decisions at some point, and Apple does not place a high priority on backwards compatibility.

If refusing to compromise on that limits their ambitions in the world of enterprise solutions, I think they'll be just fine with that.
 
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And I wonder when we finally get the chance to read an article about IBM (Japan) and their Macs and what software they are actually using on those Macs. Does the software that they are using live exclusively in the web browser? Is it some Java app (of which IBM has written and released countless numbers)? It's another of those articles that throw around numbers about savings without substantiating that with any actual data or background information. (Not that it matters for such an advertisement piece of journalism.)

The IBM employee that I saw this morning on the ICE to Munich didn't know about those Macs that her company seems to champion for quite some while now - she was doing her PowerPoint with a fat IBM logo on it on a Windows machine. But, well. This is Germany, not Japan. It might take them a few more years here to catch up with the hype.

It is not only Japan, it is just standard in Japan, over 150.000 Macs are deployed in IBM worldwide, so this is not some cheap experiment, this is migration. I don't know what are they running on it, but for sure it is not Minesweeper or Sudoku.. :)
 

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So Timmy thinks all enterprise needs is increased security?

No. He thinks that's a factor. And it is.

Apple will never be more than a minor niche in enterprise

iOS is a huge player in enterprise.

macOS is a major player in corporations like IBM and Google. You may have heard of them.

as long as they think forcing everyone to the latest OS is a good idea. Enterprise always has obscure old software that won't run on the latest but is essential to their business. Updating is something that has a major effect across the company and it needs to be up to their IT and management when it makes business sense to make the change.

This was especially true in the 1990s, and is increasingly obsolete thinking.

But with good ole Apple, when you keep your OS a few versions back it breaks compatibility with a whole bunch of apps just because Timmy says so. Not to mention, let's say I've got a shop running Mountain Lion that's been running fine for years and I need to add 20 new macs. I'd be completely screwed if I were running Apple.

Yes. If that's what you want, Microsoft is a more appropriate choice.

Guess what, though? Even Microsoft is moving away from that model.
 

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Except iCloud wasn't breached. Weak passwords were guessed or brute forced. That might not mean much difference to those few celebrities affected but there's a huge difference for iCloud's near 1 billion regular users.

Just because it was the affected users bad passwords and their own lousy security by sharing passwords doesn't mean it's not Apples fault.
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No. He thinks that's a factor. And it is.



iOS is a huge player in enterprise.

macOS is a major player in corporations like IBM and Google. You may have heard of them.



This was especially true in the 1990s, and is increasingly obsolete thinking.



Yes. If that's what you want, Microsoft is a more appropriate choice.

Guess what, though? Even Microsoft is moving away from that model.

Considering that Win 10 has mandatory updates and will only let you postpone those updates for a limited amount/number of time I think that you can say Windows has already moved away from that model.

I can't say that I'm always pleased with the results of an update but given rapidly changing security problems they are a fact of life for most OS's.
 

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iOS is a huge player in enterprise.

macOS is a major player in corporations like IBM and Google. You may have heard of them.

iOS is not a huge player in enterprise. Perhaps you don't quite understand what is meant by enterprise. https://www.techopedia.com/definition/27854/enterprise-computing

Little database access and communication toys are a part, but a small niche part as I said in my previous post.

I've heard the marketing buzz from IBM and Google. So how many windows and linux devices do you think Google has for every Apple device? 100 to 1? 1000 to 1?

This was especially true in the 1990s, and is increasingly obsolete thinking.

That makes it clear you don't know anything about the enterprise.
 
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iOS is not a huge player in enterprise. Perhaps you don't quite understand what is meant by enterprise. https://www.techopedia.com/definition/27854/enterprise-computing

Little database access and communication toys are a part, but a small niche part as I said in my previous post.

I've heard the marketing buzz from IBM and Google. So how many windows and linux devices do you think Google has for every Apple device? 100 to 1? 1000 to 1?



That makes it clear you don't know anything about the enterprise.

IBM is 1:1 so far, trending in favor of Macs, so what now? IBM is not real enterprise by Your definition, or are You wrong?
 

DevNull0

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IBM is 1:1 so far, trending in favor of Macs, so what now? IBM is not real enterprise by Your definition, or are You wrong?

Citation please because I really don't know what info you mean. If it were 1 windows laptop and 1 iphone per employee, that would obviously be BS.

OTOH, maybe you're right and half the computers in the company including all infrastructure really are macs. I don't know so I can't really comment on that.
 
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Ileskovar

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Citation please because I really don't know what info you mean. If it were 1 windows laptop and 1 iphone per employee, that would obviously be BS.

OTOH, maybe you're right and half the computers in the company including all infrastructure really are macs. I don't know so I can't really comment on that.

You are right, thay would be BS, but it is not the case. :)

"IBM expects to have more than 100,000 Macs in use by the end of this year, so that’s a pretty significant sample size. The company is rolling out 1,300 Macs a week, and only five IT administrators are supporting all of those computers."

And this was from last year, so if you multiply weeks with 1,300, it should be about at least 120,000 Macs by now, so I was wrong it is 2:1 probably so far, but in only 2 years from almost 0% to more than 30% is huge step. Plus that there is 81,000 iPhones and 48,000 iPads or 217,000 apple devices in total.

Many of my friends are working in corporate IT sector here in Croatia, and are scared of these numbers, support IT stuff reduction, when You present it to them..

http://www.macworld.com/article/3133544/hardware/how-switching-to-macs-is-paying-off-for-ibm.html

http://www.cio.com/article/3133945/hardware/ibm-says-macs-save-up-to-543-per-user.html
 

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First, Tim flirts with IBM, now he want's to party with Cisco, and we all call this "security increase for the enterprise" (replace the term enterprise with the other term privacy at will). You really mean it? Ever heard about NSA? Do you really think the gorgeous Ad back in 84 was nothing else but marketing? I think I need another aluminum hat right now...
 

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So Timmy thinks all enterprise needs is increased security?
Can you link to that part of the transcript. I've looked at the article and don't see anywhere he's said that... Leading off with a statement that looks pretty blatantly false distracts from what might be meaningful content later in your post.
 

jzuena

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Can you link to that part of the transcript. I've looked at the article and don't see anywhere he's said that... Leading off with a statement that looks pretty blatantly false distracts from what might be meaningful content later in your post.

I was at the event and he didn't say that.
 
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