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What is going on with it? I see that it has not been updated for a long time and it looks like it will not work on oses later then macos 14. Is it dead?
Thanks.
 
Now that’s an app I haven’t heard of in a very long time. Used to be a staple on my Mac. Looking at the Roxio website, it seems to still be in active development and now up to version 20 which works on 10.14 through to Sonoma. Doesn’t seem they’ve updated it for Sequoia, though it may well work fine - maybe someone with v20 and Sequoia can chime in and confirm if it’s working. They may just have not updated their website?
 
I have version 20..it is ok. Still works. but has issues with compression to a disk. Toast 11 is probably the last good and works overall. version 20 has a customize menu for DVD and blu-ray which is a first and works ok.

Market for DVD and blu-ray is basically dead in the U.S., but around the world it is still used. Owners are now an investment group and like most good programs that are bought out and combined with other brands (Corel and Roxio and a few others), the quality dies.

All that said...it really depends on what you are doing if Toast is useful anymore.
 
I have version 20..it is ok. Still works. but has issues with compression to a disk. Toast 11 is probably the last good and works overall. version 20 has a customize menu for DVD and blu-ray which is a first and works ok.

Market for DVD and blu-ray is basically dead in the U.S., but around the world it is still used. Owners are now an investment group and like most good programs that are bought out and combined with other brands (Corel and Roxio and a few others), the quality dies.

All that said...it really depends on what you are doing if Toast is useful anymore.
So what y'all are saying, is it's Toast!😭
 
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I thought this had died a death a long while ago considering discs have been overtaken by USBs and digital downloads now. I haven't had a need for it for many years, but it was a great piece of software!
 
Toast? That's still around - wow, color me shocked. I'm even more shocked that people are still using DVDs
 
So what y'all are saying, is it's Toast!😭
Toast is still around...but they just keep putting a little "butter" on the versions when they do come out, but the software is not like it was years back. They have not come out with another version for a few years, so probably version 20 is the last I would think.

Probably better to say "stale" bread instead of toast. :)
 
Toast? That's still around - wow, color me shocked. I'm even more shocked that people are still using DVDs
In other countries DVDs are still being used (Like Japan) but it is also starting to decrease as well due to Amazon and Netflix catching on with the younger crowds..

What makes DVDs and Blu-rays worth something is that now everyone (by design) is relying on steaming services like Amazon, Netflix and Apple and there is something probably (I would bet) most are not aware of....

What people do not do is read the fine print if they purchase a movie or music from Apple or Amazon Prime thinking it is yours once you buy. When you "buy" a movie on Apple or Amazon it is NOT yours forever.

"If" Apple or Amazon someday does not carry the movie anymore due to licensing etc. (and music), it will "disappear" and you no longer will have it or be able to get it even if you "bought" it before. Even "disappear" from your library on your computer (since Amazon and Apple MAKE YOU use their apps). You do not "own" it even if you buy it. Really..when you "buy" you are JUST renting it UNTIL Apple or Amazon does not carry it anymore for whatever reason. Sometimes it may be years, but sometimes not.

This is the difference with DVDs and Blu-ray's vs streaming services.


Companies are fading out DVD and blu-ray productions as we see in the U.S.. Sony now does not make blank DVDs any longer globally (which there DVDs were good quality that last over the cheaper). Now, blanks DVDs are cheap and don't last as long as expected and fade to non=playable after some years.

Also, since DVDs and Blu-ray sales have decreased to almost nothing in the U.S. (why Toast is "Toast"), including Amazon doesn't want to sell any DVD movies of course or just minimal options), eventually everyone will be under the mercy of the streaming company "if" their purchases will be there in a few years or not.

But the mentality is that how many times does someone rewatch a movie? That is what streaming services are betting on.

For the few movies that are timeless and you "might" watch more than once every so many years, YES you want DVD or Blu-ray, but most movies that come out now-a-days...after a few years...no interest.

DVDs and Blu-rays have a good reasoning for existence, but also DVD and blu-ray players are now on a decrease as well due to lack of demand. The word out in the industry is "if" you have a large DVD or Blu-ray collection, buy a few DVD and Blu-ray players and keep them unused until the one you have breaks. Chances are that the time you need to replace the player, it may be difficult or even hard ti find.

But probably those who have large DVD or Blu-ray collections are the older crowds...so the time is clicking for that need..
 
Not sure why, but reading loby's reply directly above brings to mind this quote from Orwell in 1984:

“Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped.
Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.”
 
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