Doesn't look very good over there in Iraq.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm.../ap/20030819/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_030819200433
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm.../ap/20030819/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_030819200433
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Truck Blast at U.N.'s Iraq HQ Kills 20
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I see this playing out in two ways. Either the Iraqis get pissed off at all this terrorism and stand up for their rights or they start believing they were better off before all this happened. Unfortunately, it's probably the latter. 
What escapes me completely is why they would attack the UN -- the organization that has worked for peace, has no independent interest in Iraqi oil, etc.
According to a phone interview on NPR's broadcast of the BBC World Service, someone there said that there may be Iraqi resentment toward the UN for not acting to remove Saddam Hussein during the 90's. While this may be true, I find it hard to imagine this as an animating force behind an enormous car bomb.
I suspect that it's more likely that the militant Iraqis are becoming convinced that the UN has become something of a tool to justify (what they would call) "US unilateralism". If this is true, it could usher in a whole new period of danger for UN troops and operations in Iraq and elsewhere in the world.
According to a phone interview on NPR's broadcast of the BBC World Service, someone there said that there may be Iraqi resentment toward the UN for not acting to remove Saddam Hussein during the 90's. While this may be true, I find it hard to imagine this as an animating force behind an enormous car bomb.
I suspect that it's more likely that the militant Iraqis are becoming convinced that the UN has become something of a tool to justify (what they would call) "US unilateralism". If this is true, it could usher in a whole new period of danger for UN troops and operations in Iraq and elsewhere in the world.
I heard it reported that this blast was likely the work of an outside group (al queda was specifically mentioned) rather than the work of angry iraqis. *I have no way of knowing if this is true or not; it's just something I heard on the news.*
Now the UN cant sit on the fence,France Germany etc have now been pulled into Iraq is my feeling.
Groups like Hamas and Hizbollah etc want to fight with the Israelis and get return of Palestinian soil ,where as Al Queda want a muslim world.
Iraq is now full of foreign fighters from Syria and apparently now Chechnya {sp} as well,I would also assume Iran to.
There will probably be behind the scenes snippets of what happend tomorrow here http://www.debka.com/
Groups like Hamas and Hizbollah etc want to fight with the Israelis and get return of Palestinian soil ,where as Al Queda want a muslim world.
Iraq is now full of foreign fighters from Syria and apparently now Chechnya {sp} as well,I would also assume Iran to.
There will probably be behind the scenes snippets of what happend tomorrow here http://www.debka.com/
terrible event. my goverment teacher was talking to me today. he goes jon, how do you feel about more and more of our soldiers dying each day. and i said, if you have noticed, more deaths have come since the guard went in there and the marines left. i feel the guard isnt as well trained as the marines, so there have been more deaths, but also situattions could be different, but im not over there so im not sure, just my assupmtion though.
iJon
iJon
Don't you mean iJon?
But you are right I have a lot of friends over there and even have lost a few. But our boys are tuff and that is the hell of being the only super power (no mega power) in the world. Don't worry about our guard they are damn tuff when need be for a bucnh of "weekend warriors" as people like to call them.
I know this from my own time spent as a Pararescuemen. (PJ)
But you are right I have a lot of friends over there and even have lost a few. But our boys are tuff and that is the hell of being the only super power (no mega power) in the world. Don't worry about our guard they are damn tuff when need be for a bucnh of "weekend warriors" as people like to call them.
I know this from my own time spent as a Pararescuemen. (PJ)
Actually the reports say 17 people died in the UN bombing yesterday. I heard someone on the TV say something about 500 pounds of C4-type explosives are estimated to have been in the back of that concrete truck. Insane.
Ansar al-Islam is suspected, but Saddam loyalists can't be ruled out yet either.
Ansar al-Islam is suspected, but Saddam loyalists can't be ruled out yet either.
oh i know they are tough, my dad was in teh navy and my brother was in the first desert storm, i am sorry for your friends, and in no way am i saying they arent tough, i praise any person who joins the military, and even more so if they end up going to war, they will be more of a man then i will ever be.
iJon
Makes me wonder what the situation would be like if there was not all of that outside agitation going on.{foreign interference at all levels}
Good to see our war against terrorism is working so so so wonderfully.
Do america a favor and vote for anyone but Bush in 2004.
Do america a favor and vote for anyone but Bush in 2004.
What was that quote from Wolfowitz? Something to the effect that he really wished all foreigners would stop interferring with the internal affairs of Iraq. Whoops! Bet he wishes he could rephrase that one.
Originally posted by Moxiemike
Good to see our war against terrorism is working so so so wonderfully.
Do america a favor and vote for anyone but Bush in 2004.
I think that the war on terrorism is progressing very well. So far in the US we have had no incidents since 9/11. We can't expect that a country so violent as Iraq would adopt our views this quickly. Americans just have no patience.
We need Bush now more than ever in 2004!