Trump Signs Executive Order to Ban US Transactions With WeChat Pay and 7 Other Chinese Apps

[MacRumors]

U.S. President Donald Trump on Tuesday signed an executive order banning transactions with eight Chinese apps, including WeChat Pay and AliPay (via Reuters).

The order prohibits all U.S. transactions with the companies behind the apps, the full list of which includes Alipay, CamScanner, QQ Wallet, SHAREit, Tencent QQ, VMate, WeChat Pay, and WPS Office.

The order tasks the Commerce Department with defining which transactions will be banned under the directive within 45 days, but a U.S. official told Reuters that the Commerce Department plans to act before January 20, when Trump leaves office.

"By accessing personal electronic devices such as smartphones, tablets, and computers, Chinese connected software applications can access and capture vast swaths of information from users, including sensitive personally identifiable information and private information," the executive order states.

Such data collection "would permit China to track the locations of federal employees and contractors, and build dossiers of personal information," the document adds.

The named apps are extremely popular with Chinese mobile device users, and if the order was successful, the bans would be a significant blow to Chinese Americans who use apps like WeChat to communicate.

The new orders are in addition to two earlier ones signed by Trump in August that attempted to ban transactions with WeChat and TikTok's parent company, ByteDance. The first order was blocked by a judge in September and then again in October, while a preliminary injunction granted by another judge in December prevented the TikTok ban from going ahead.

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Article Link: Trump Signs Executive Order to Ban US Transactions With WeChat Pay and 7 Other Chinese Apps

 

[NBAasDOGG]

This monkey is still around?
(Btw I’m a non-America, hope I didn’t offend anyone)

 

[xnsys]

I wouldn't worry about offending anybody , the problem is that when you have a debate, there will always be someone that will be offended - the real skill in life is to not take offence by other peoples points of view - the old adage of "sticks and stones...."....a good healthy debate is guaranteed to "offend" someone down the line.

In all honesty, the way China are behaving, especially over the whole COVID-19 situation is disgraceful, the more that is done round the world to curb their influence, and power the better - the problem you have at the moment is there are all these entities, BLM, ANTIFA, CCP, the EU etc that all have one goal in the world, to be the rulers - and they will stop at nothing.

China are dangerous, they want to rule the world and they will stop at nothing, we still don't know if the whole CCP-Virus was man-made, there is substantial evidence to suggest that it was, but it's just hearsay until you get concrete evidence.

In my personal view, the world should be focused on China, they should be holding them to account, and the less finances that head in their direction, at the moment....the better.

 

[ian87w]

The named apps are extremely popular with Chinese mobile device users, and if the order was successful, the bans would be a significant blow to Chinese Americans who use apps like WeChat to communicate with Chinese citizens.

Huh? As far as I understand this, this is only banning US companies to not use those Chinese-backed payment systems. How many US retailers actually support Wechat Pay/AliPay? And what does this have to do with Chinese Americans communicating with Chinese citizens?

 

[vicviper789]

What evidence do you have before suggesting spreading fake news

I wouldn't worry about offending anybody , the problem is that when you have a debate, there will always be someone that will be offended - the real skill in life is to not take offence by other peoples points of view - the old adage of "sticks and stones...."....a good healthy debate is guaranteed to "offend" someone down the line.

In all honesty, the way China are behaving, especially over the whole COVID-19 situation is disgraceful, the more that is done round the world to curb their influence, and power the better - the problem you have at the moment is there are all these entities, BLM, ANTIFA, CCP, the EU etc that all have one goal in the world, to be the rulers - and they will stop at nothing.

China are dangerous, they want to rule the world and they will stop at nothing, we still don't know if the whole CCP-Virus was man-made, there is substantial evidence to suggest that it was, but it's just hearsay until you get concrete evidence.

In my personal view, the world should be focused on China, they should be holding them to account, and the less finances that head in their direction, at the moment....the better.

 

[GCHASE1995]

It’s ok. Biden’s is going to roll back all executive orders trump put out 🤷🏼‍♂️ January 20th can’t come soon enough

 

[xnsys]

What evidence do you have before suggesting spreading fake news

Did you read the post?

The evidence as explained to me is something to do with the "pShuttle-SN" whatever that is, and the indication that it could have come from Wuhan - it was explained to me by a very good friend who researches viral pathogens in animals...

Like I said in the my post "we still don't know if the whole CCP-Virus was man-made, there is substantial evidence to suggest that it was, but it's just hearsay until you get concrete evidence"

Key words are, "hearsay" - "concrete evidence"

 

[ian87w]

It’s ok. Biden’s is going to roll back all executive orders trump put out 🤷🏼‍♂️ January 20th can’t come soon enough

True. It's funny how many media channels seem to be stuck into their orange-man mode, despite the insignificance on whatever is happening in just a few weeks. They should be focusing on what Biden admin will do instead of keep giving the spotlight to Trump.

 

[farewelwilliams]

China are dangerous, they want to rule the world and they will stop at nothing, we still don't know if the whole CCP-Virus was man-made, there is substantial evidence to suggest that it was, but it's just hearsay until you get concrete evidence.

Where is this evidence?

It's ridiculous to just throw out stories and attach the word "evidence" with nothing to back that up.

I could say "there was substantial evidence that scientists from USA setup a lab in Wuhan to engineer this virus so that the world would blame China for the virus". It doesn't make it anymore false or true than your assertion unless you provide some link.

 

[tomtad]

Where is this evidence?

It's ridiculous to just throw out ridiculous stories and attach the word "evidence" with nothing to back that up.

I could say "there was substantial evidence that scientists from USA setup a lab in Wuhan to engineer this virus so that the world would blame China for the virus". It doesn't make it anymore false or true than your assertion unless you provide some link.

Surely China would want the WHO to have a look around then, turns out they don't.

China blocks entry to WHO team studying Covid's origins

Officials say visas not yet approved for World Health Organization delegation due to visit Wuhan

www.theguardian.com

 

[kingofwale]

Very soon Hunter Biden will be on the board of one of those companies... and it will be rolled back by the "big guy"

 

[madrigal77]

I wouldn't worry about offending anybody , the problem is that when you have a debate, there will always be someone that will be offended - the real skill in life is to not take offence by other peoples points of view - the old adage of "sticks and stones...."....a good healthy debate is guaranteed to "offend" someone down the line.

In all honesty, the way China are behaving, especially over the whole COVID-19 situation is disgraceful, the more that is done round the world to curb their influence, and power the better - the problem you have at the moment is there are all these entities, BLM, ANTIFA, CCP, the EU etc that all have one goal in the world, to be the rulers - and they will stop at nothing.

China are dangerous, they want to rule the world and they will stop at nothing, we still don't know if the whole CCP-Virus was man-made, there is substantial evidence to suggest that it was, but it's just hearsay until you get concrete evidence.

In my personal view, the world should be focused on China, they should be holding them to account, and the less finances that head in their direction, at the moment....the better.

China should be cut off from the rest of the world. They are disgusting. I used to live there for 8 years, and they are more disgusting than you can imagine.

 

[xnsys]

True. It's funny how many media channels seem to be stuck into their orange-man mode, despite the insignificance on whatever is happening in just a few weeks. They should be focusing on what Biden admin will do instead of keep giving the spotlight to Trump.

That's because the media have nothing else with Biden, apart from embarrassing stories how he can't string a sentence together.

I really do feel for you Americans if Biden does get in, I'm not a Trump fan as a person by any stretch of the imagination, but I can see through what people are like, and look at their leadership skills, and what they want to accomplish, and what they have done for people in the process of their administration - and I don't use the media to form my opinion either, as a lot of key facts are usually missing - rather like this "leaked" phone call as of late - anybody can cut audio to suit their rhetoric, the whole lengthy call had a complete different meaning to it if you listened to what was said before and after the cut.

You are being fed lies by the media, you are being controlled by the media - hence why YouTube ban anything that has election fraud, anything that exposes the COVID-19 pandemic - whatever happened to freedom of speech?

Where is this evidence?

It's ridiculous to just throw out ridiculous stories and attach the word "evidence" with nothing to back that up.

I could say "there was substantial evidence that scientists from USA setup a lab in Wuhan to engineer this virus so that the world would blame China for the virus". It doesn't make it anymore false or true than your assertion unless you provide some link.

Nobel winning scientist claims Covid-19 virus was man-made in Wuhan lab

France's Luc Montagnier says SARS-CoV-2 virus was the result of an attempt to manufacture a vaccine against the AIDS virus.'The Wuhan city laboratory has specialized in these coronaviruses since the early 2000s. They have expertise in this area,' he told a French news channel

www.livemint.com

Scientist says Covid-19 is man made and was released from Wuhan lab - London Business News | Londonlovesbusiness.com

A Taiwanese scientist has claimed Chinese microbiologists probably created coronavirus in Wuhan, China. Based on the virus unusual structure it is most likely “man made” and there is a theory…

londonlovesbusiness.com

And what happened to the scientist that wanted to tell the world about the virus that escaped, and disappeared....Shi Zhengli is her name - search for he.

 

[contacos]

why does the transition from one president to the next take so long in the US? It gives them way too much time to be like SCREW YOU before leaving the office.

 

[loby]

Surely China would want the WHO to have a look around then, turns out they don't.

China blocks entry to WHO team studying Covid's origins

Officials say visas not yet approved for World Health Organization delegation due to visit Wuhan

www.theguardian.com

Last week China said that they would allow the team in and they will cooperate and be transparent...and W.H.O. believes this...yeah right. Wake up world..

WHO expert team not granted entry to China | NHK WORLD-JAPAN News

The head of the World Health Organization has expressed disappointment after a team of international experts were not granted entry to China.

www3.nhk.or.jp

 

[xnsys]

why does the transition from one president to the next take so long in the US? It gives them way too much time to be like SCREW YOU before leaving the office.

Probably because this is not a normal transition - the substantial evidence of fraud, which has been proven with regards to the CCTV evidence of votes being counted again, and again and again, plus the boxes under the table.

This is no ordinary transition.

 

[xnsys]

Last week China said that they would allow the team in and they will cooperate and be transparent...and W.H.O. believes this...yeah right. Wake up world..

WHO expert team not granted entry to China | NHK WORLD-JAPAN News

The head of the World Health Organization has expressed disappointment after a team of international experts were not granted entry to China.

www3.nhk.or.jp

Yeah, after they have had time to clear up the evidence.

 

[loby]

U.S. President Donald Trump on Tuesday signed an executive order banning transactions with eight Chinese apps, including WeChat Pay and AliPay (via Reuters).

The order prohibits all U.S. transactions with the companies behind the apps, the full list of which includes Alipay, CamScanner, QQ Wallet, SHAREit, Tencent QQ, VMate, WeChat Pay, and WPS Office.

The order tasks the Commerce Department with defining which transactions will be banned under the directive within 45 days, but a U.S. official told Reuters that the Commerce Department plans to act before January 20, when Trump leaves office.
The named apps are extremely popular with Chinese mobile device users, and if the order was successful, the bans would be a significant blow to Chinese Americans who use apps like WeChat to communicate with Chinese citizens.

The new orders are in addition to two earlier ones signed by Trump in August that attempted to ban transactions with WeChat and TikTok's parent company, ByteDance. The first order was blocked by a judge in September and then again in October, while a preliminary injunction granted by another judge in December prevented the TikTok ban from going ahead.

Note: Due to the political or social nature of the discussion regarding this topic, the discussion thread is located in our Political News forum. All forum members and site visitors are welcome to read and follow the thread, but posting is limited to forum members with at least 100 posts.

Article Link: Trump Signs Executive Order to Ban US Transactions With WeChat Pay and 7 Other Chinese Apps

Interesting...why WPS Office?

 

[farewelwilliams]

Nobel winning scientist claims Covid-19 virus was man-made in Wuhan lab

France's Luc Montagnier says SARS-CoV-2 virus was the result of an attempt to manufacture a vaccine against the AIDS virus.'The Wuhan city laboratory has specialized in these coronaviruses since the early 2000s. They have expertise in this area,' he told a French news channel

www.livemint.com

Scientist says Covid-19 is man made and was released from Wuhan lab - London Business News | Londonlovesbusiness.com

A Taiwanese scientist has claimed Chinese microbiologists probably created coronavirus in Wuhan, China. Based on the virus unusual structure it is most likely “man made” and there is a theory…

londonlovesbusiness.com

And what happened to the scientist that wanted to tell the world about the virus that escaped, and disappeared....Shi Zhengli is her name - search for he.

First link says
"Just in case you don't know. Dr Montagnier has been rolling downhill incredibly fast in the last few years. From baselessly defending homeopathy to becoming an antivaxxer. Whatever he says, just don't believe him,"

Did some googling, turns out, it's true. He's gone off to the deep end:

Nobel laureate joins anti-vaccination crowd at Autism One

The AutismOne conference gets a Nobel laureate to spout psuedoscience and help promote anti-vaccine nonsense. Jenny McCarthy and Andrew Wakefield speak too.

www.forbes.com

"Montagnier is promoting wild theories with little scientific basis, and now he is taking advantage of vulnerable parents (see his appeal here) to push a therapy of long-term antibiotic treatment for autistic children."
"Montagnier hasn't been able to publish this in a proper journal, for a very good reason: it's nonsense. He claims that quantum field theory - an area of physics in which he has no qualifications - explains how electromagnetic waves emanating from DNA can explain not only autism, but also Alzheimer's disease, Parkinson's disease, multiple sclerosis, Lyme disease, and rheumatoid arthritis"

I can't find any info of the doctor in the second link.

I'm going to file this under "BS" until someone more credible says otherwise.

 

[goobot]

why does the transition from one president to the next take so long in the US? It gives them way too much time to be like SCREW YOU before leaving the office.

To count votes and give time for the incoming president to prepare. Also I doubt they could count votes that fast in the 1700’s

 

[loby]

That's because the media have nothing else with Biden, apart from embarrassing stories how he can't string a sentence together.

I really do feel for you Americans if Biden does get in, I'm not a Trump fan as a person by any stretch of the imagination, but I can see through what people are like, and look at their leadership skills, and what they want to accomplish, and what they have done for people in the process of their administration - and I don't use the media to form my opinion either, as a lot of key facts are usually missing - rather like this "leaked" phone call as of late - anybody can cut audio to suit their rhetoric, the whole lengthy call had a complete different meaning to it if you listened to what was said before and after the cut.

You are being fed lies by the media, you are being controlled by the media - hence why YouTube ban anything that has election fraud, anything that exposes the COVID-19 pandemic - whatever happened to freedom of speech?

Nobel winning scientist claims Covid-19 virus was man-made in Wuhan lab

France's Luc Montagnier says SARS-CoV-2 virus was the result of an attempt to manufacture a vaccine against the AIDS virus.'The Wuhan city laboratory has specialized in these coronaviruses since the early 2000s. They have expertise in this area,' he told a French news channel

www.livemint.com

Scientist says Covid-19 is man made and was released from Wuhan lab - London Business News | Londonlovesbusiness.com

A Taiwanese scientist has claimed Chinese microbiologists probably created coronavirus in Wuhan, China. Based on the virus unusual structure it is most likely “man made” and there is a theory…

londonlovesbusiness.com

And what happened to the scientist that wanted to tell the world about the virus that escaped, and disappeared....Shi Zhengli is her name - search for he.

Yes...but no one will listen. Just as long as they get their iPhones.

 

[farewelwilliams]

Surely China would want the WHO to have a look around then, turns out they don't.

China blocks entry to WHO team studying Covid's origins

Officials say visas not yet approved for World Health Organization delegation due to visit Wuhan

www.theguardian.com

that's not evidence of manmade covid or of anything other than blockage of visas.

that's just highly suggestive of China being nitpicky or having something to hide which could be one of a million things. not evidence.

 

[GCHASE1995]

That's because the media have nothing else with Biden, apart from embarrassing stories how he can't string a sentence together.

I really do feel for you Americans if Biden does get in, I'm not a Trump fan as a person by any stretch of the imagination, but I can see through what people are like, and look at their leadership skills, and what they want to accomplish, and what they have done for people in the process of their administration - and I don't use the media to form my opinion either, as a lot of key facts are usually missing - rather like this "leaked" phone call as of late - anybody can cut audio to suit their rhetoric, the whole lengthy call had a complete different meaning to it if you listened to what was said before and after the cut.

You are being fed lies by the media, you are being controlled by the media - hence why YouTube ban anything that has election fraud, anything that exposes the COVID-19 pandemic - whatever happened to freedom of speech?

Nobel winning scientist claims Covid-19 virus was man-made in Wuhan lab

France's Luc Montagnier says SARS-CoV-2 virus was the result of an attempt to manufacture a vaccine against the AIDS virus.'The Wuhan city laboratory has specialized in these coronaviruses since the early 2000s. They have expertise in this area,' he told a French news channel

www.livemint.com

Scientist says Covid-19 is man made and was released from Wuhan lab - London Business News | Londonlovesbusiness.com

A Taiwanese scientist has claimed Chinese microbiologists probably created coronavirus in Wuhan, China. Based on the virus unusual structure it is most likely “man made” and there is a theory…

londonlovesbusiness.com

And what happened to the scientist that wanted to tell the world about the virus that escaped, and disappeared....Shi Zhengli is her name - search for he.

81,283,485 can all agree Trump is the worst thing to happen to America. I can’t wait for his Twitter to be deleted after he leaves office. Biden will roll back this order just like the others dealing with idiocy and petty ness

 

[xnsys]

81,283,485 can all agree Trump is the worst thing to happen to America. I can’t wait for his Twitter to be deleted after he leaves office. Biden will roll back this order just like the others dealing with idiocy and petty ness

Yeah, but how many of them are the walking dead, and how many of them had their vote flipped, or didn't vote in the first place?

Unless the truth comes out with regards to this whole election mess, I can see years of unrest - it needs to be resolved one way or the other.

Do you think Biden would be interested in investigating all the evidence if he gets in?

 

[GCHASE1995]

Yeah, but how many of them are the walking dead, and how many of them had their vote flipped, or didn't vote in the first place?

Unless the truth comes out with regards to this whole election mess, I can see years of unrest - it needs to be resolved one way or the other.

Do you think Biden would be interested in investigating all the evidence if he gets in?

Where can I buy your tinfoil hat? Plus trump tried to commit voter fraud twice 😂