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I thought I had read that even when Face ID is turned off on the X/XS/XR, the flood illuminator and dot projector are still on checking the face. Any idea if it's the same on the 11, or if those indeed do turn off when faceID and the awareness settings are turned off?

I know there are some threads over the years with arguments over whether this stuff is harmful to the eyes- I don't believe they are from anything I have read. I just have had some eye discomfort when using my new 11 (not pro) coming from my 8 Plus, and I was curious if turning this all off would make a difference. (I turned off the settings, just wasn't sure if they still shine on the face anyway)
 
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I’m curious, are you experiencing eye discomfort from using the Face ID or PWM?

For Face ID, you don’t necessary need to hold it close to your face. You can unlock it from 2 feet away. You can also try Reduce White Point in the Accessibility to reduce PWM.

When I switched to the X, I experienced eye strains but experience it less after continuous use and not holding my phone too close and using Reduce White Point 50% to adjust and slowly decrease it.

Where is this claim that these sensors stayed on without using Face ID?
 
Never heard of this. Unless you provide the citation im not going to expend the effort to Look for it
 
I've been using a 6 Plus for four years for too many hours every day and it is the only "computer" screen I've used in my life that's never given me any eye strain. Zero. 1080p screen.

I recently got an iPhone 7, (not plus) which has the exact same screen resolution as your iPhone 11 and both use LCD screens.


The iPhone 7 has a blurrier screen and font outlines are blurrier (to my eyes) than the 6 Plus and my eyes get more tired using it because once again, they're hunting for sharp focus where non exists.
I do not like using the iPhone 7 at all, even with its newer OS. The phone sits in a drawer.
 
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I’m curious, are you experiencing eye discomfort from using the Face ID or PWM?

For Face ID, you don’t necessary need to hold it close to your face. You can unlock it from 2 feet away. You can also try Reduce White Point in the Accessibility to reduce PWM.

When I switched to the X, I experienced eye strains but experience it less after continuous use and not holding my phone too close and using Reduce White Point 50% to adjust and slowly decrease it.

Where is this claim that these sensors stayed on without using Face ID?

Thanks for the reply! I know that the iPhone 11 does not have PWM since it is LCD and not OLED like the pro. I had just been noticing some eye pain and maybe it's just the larger screen than I am used to, who knows. I had no trouble with my 6S, or my 7, or my 8Plus. I had an XS for a couple of weeks when they came out and I had eye pain, I thought maybe it was from the PWM flicker so I switched to the 8Plus and had no more trouble. Now that I'm with the 11 I feel similar discomfort, but I know there is no PWM- so I was just wondering if the faceID projector could be a potential cause. I turned it off yesterday and hadn't seen much improvement, but was reading some older threads here about the X and how supposedly there is a flashing light shining on the face every 5 seconds even when all of the FaceID features are turned off. I am extremely doubtful that is the cause, either- as noted I suspect it might just be my sensitive eyes needing to adjust to the bigger screen, but I was curious if there was a way to turn this all off just to test for a few days.

But someone mentioned electrical tape on the notch? So simple, but I hadn't considered it. Maybe that would work as a 2-3 day test! :)

With all of that being said, I love the 11, it's the best phone I've ever had and I am keeping it.
 
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