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Prior to iOS 15, we had a fully functional Remote application that also had an extension within control center that added some great functionality.

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For whatever reason, the Remote app is no longer a dedicated application, which forces users to go into control center in order to make quick actions on a connected TV. Not a big deal on a smaller phone, but when in a different app on a Max phone, it is more complicated than before to quickly pause, mute or whatever is needed on your connected AppleTV. In my use case, I tended to have the remote app open in the background as I often use it to control Podcasts, Netflix, etc.

It is only a couple more steps, but when you have muscle memory and got used to quite a simple workflow, the change is annoying.

Prior to this release

1. Swipe over to your previously used application (assuming it was remote)
2. complete whatever action you would like from the remote app running in background

iOS 15 method to access remote

1. Swipe down from control center (sometimes needing to change grip on a Max phone)
2. Open the remote widget (scrolling through other buttons if you have a ton of them or didn't move remote to the top)
3. Select your Apple TV or device* (Not always needed, however my widget seems to forget what AppleTV I was talking to previously)
4. Complete whatever action you are intending to complete with your remote app.


Having to always bring down control center is not exactly ideal, and while the "now Playing" widget can sometimes provide quicker access to controlling an Apple TV, it is only useful if your phone actually remembers which TV you were previously controlling, and only if you aren't already playing some type of media from your device, or, for some reason my Xs Max seems to forget what TV I was previously controlling.

For the record I did submit the request to bring it back to Apple, but expecting nothing.
 
Yes. I miss it. I also like how h could have three TV/TV/Xfinity app open and schist swipe between them if needed to adjust setting/channel/etc on any remote. Now I won’t be able to do that since I’d have to get the control center pulled down first.
 
Another stupid change in iOS 15. Why remove the remote app? I used it all the time. The one in control panel is not nearly as good as the app was. I am really beginning to question some of the decisions Apple is making. iPadOS is really been a dog for me today. Well iPhone has been OK, they’re a little things like this that are really bugging me. Maybe they are just trying to sell more of the new remote. Who knows.
 
I haven’t had a chance to use the CC Remote since the update.
Does anyone know if the CC version now has the Information panel (the app had this on a swipe up I think)

also, what are the channel buttons used for with TV?
 
You could bring up the information panel using the iPhone app by swiping down, similar to the actual remote. As far as I can tell now, there is no swiping in the control center app. You have the four directional arrows and the center enter button. As my Apple TV is currently updating. I can’t test it. I also can’t tell what the hamburger menu is just above the main screen and does the power button actually turn off the Apple TV? Or are the channel and power buttons for turning off other devices?
 
I thought it was stupid to remove it and even more stupid to give you a message saying they removed it. I keep my remote apps in a folder so I may hop between my Harmony app and the AppleTV remote. I sent them beta feedback that will probably fall on deaf ears but in the meantime I just created a shortcut to essentially do the same thing as before.
 
I do not know who thinks of these things at Apple but it is baffling. First, as far as I can tell, The channel buttons on the control center remote do nothing while watching a show. Neither does the hamburger menu at the top of the black square. Nothing happens when I touch it. There is also some thing at the bottom of the black square that looks like it would be for subtitles and I pressed it and highlighted it but nothing is happening in the show I’m watching. Finally, I cannot get the information screen to come down from the top with any gesture on the control center app. The one thing that it does have that the standalone app had is the 10 second forward and back skip buttons.
 
Plus, instead of just being able to access an app on your phone, you have to swipe down to open control center, and then find the remote app in there somewhere. It’s just an extra step to get to something that should be available on your phone. Also, if your phone screen happens to shut off, then you have to go through the whole process again of opening control center to get the remote app back. Like I said, I don’t know who thinks these things are a good idea.
 
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Plus, instead of just being able to access an app on your phone, you have to swipe down to open control center, and then find the remote app in there somewhere. It’s just an extra step to get to something that should be available on your phone. Also, if your phone screen happens to shut off, then you have to go through the whole process again of opening control center to get the remote app back. Like I said, I don’t know who thinks these things are a good idea.
From my use today you always have to open it from the control center. It doesn’t stay open for any reason outside of actively using it. 😒

This whole thing feels like a decision made by one person who figured what was best for them was best for everyone. I can’t imagine an entire team agreeing this was the best choice. Not even a small majority.
 
Prior to iOS 15, we had a fully functional Remote application that also had an extension within control center that added some great functionality.

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For whatever reason, the Remote app is no longer a dedicated application, which forces users to go into control center in order to make quick actions on a connected TV. Not a big deal on a smaller phone, but when in a different app on a Max phone, it is more complicated than before to quickly pause, mute or whatever is needed on your connected AppleTV. In my use case, I tended to have the remote app open in the background as I often use it to control Podcasts, Netflix, etc.

It is only a couple more steps, but when you have muscle memory and got used to quite a simple workflow, the change is annoying.

Prior to this release

1. Swipe over to your previously used application (assuming it was remote)
2. complete whatever action you would like from the remote app running in background

iOS 15 method to access remote

1. Swipe down from control center (sometimes needing to change grip on a Max phone)
2. Open the remote widget (scrolling through other buttons if you have a ton of them or didn't move remote to the top)
3. Select your Apple TV or device* (Not always needed, however my widget seems to forget what AppleTV I was talking to previously)
4. Complete whatever action you are intending to complete with your remote app.


Having to always bring down control center is not exactly ideal, and while the "now Playing" widget can sometimes provide quicker access to controlling an Apple TV, it is only useful if your phone actually remembers which TV you were previously controlling, and only if you aren't already playing some type of media from your device, or, for some reason my Xs Max seems to forget what TV I was previously controlling.

For the record I did submit the request to bring it back to Apple, but expecting nothing.
Could you use one of the Accessibility options (either double tap or triple tap the back of the phone) to launch control centre?
 
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Oh, I used to have a "Movie Time" Shortcut that at the end would open the Apple Remote App...I guess that wont work.
Then again many Pre-iOS15 Shortcuts are not working. :( :(
 
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I thought it was stupid to remove it and even more stupid to give you a message saying they removed it. I keep my remote apps in a folder so I may hop between my Harmony app and the AppleTV remote. I sent them beta feedback that will probably fall on deaf ears but in the meantime I just created a shortcut to essentially do the same thing as before.

Hopefully they pay attention to them commenting on it. It can’t have taken that much effort to develop or keep it a standard application. The removal is nonsensical to me.

From my use today you always have to open it from the control center. It doesn’t stay open for any reason outside of actively using it. 😒

This whole thing feels like a decision made by one person who figured what was best for them was best for everyone. I can’t imagine an entire team agreeing this was the best choice. Not even a small majority.

Agreed, A single individual or a committee decision without context of how some of their customers actually use it.


Could you use one of the Accessibility options (either double tap or triple tap the back of the phone) to launch control centre?

There were shortcuts in the gallery that called the remote app, so they likely had data on how many people used such things. I too had a similar shortcut I voiced and no longer works. I can try out your suggestion, but it doesn’t fix the lack of app and lack of ability to reliably call it up via shortcuts.
 
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The remote in the watch seems to be missing some functionality as well and the Now Playing reverts back to iPhone no matter what device you’re currently using or were using last.
 
is there a way to side load the app somehow? I know you can add apps to your Home Screen that aren’t allowed or done easily.
good thing is the control center one is improved and you can scroll the same way as the app was. Also a good thing is when I switch my apple tv’s in it I don’t have the control center one crashing. It was crashing on me for years and I could only use it for my bedroom appletv. But it I tried to click my living room appletv it would hang and crash. But that’s fixed.
 
is there a way to side load the app somehow? I know you can add apps to your Home Screen that aren’t allowed or done easily.
good thing is the control center one is improved and you can scroll the same way as the app was. Also a good thing is when I switch my apple tv’s in it I don’t have the control center one crashing. It was crashing on me for years and I could only use it for my bedroom appletv. But it I tried to click my living room appletv it would hang and crash. But that’s fixed.
Yeah I had that crashing issue with my Family Room and Basement AppleTVs. The Control Center was always fine.

I still see Apple TV Remote App as a Shortcut/Automation option but it does nothing. Even creating a new shortcut and pulling in that line does nothing. That stinks as it was nice to say Movie Time, have the lights change, the TV come on, and switch to TV have an app selection and start on the TV and the remote app ready so I could just use that with a single phrase.
 
Yeah I had that crashing issue with my Family Room and Basement AppleTVs. The Control Center was always fine.

I still see Apple TV Remote App as a Shortcut/Automation option but it does nothing. Even creating a new shortcut and pulling in that line does nothing. That stinks as it was nice to say Movie Time, have the lights change, the TV come on, and switch to TV have an app selection and start on the TV and the remote app ready so I could just use that with a single phrase.
It’s always fascinating to watch Apple get in its own way.
 
I miss the Remote app and don't like how more stuff is getting pushed into Control Center.

The new way is also annoying because it keeps asking me to select an ATV. It can't seem to remember where it was last.
 
I miss the Remote app and don't like how more stuff is getting pushed into Control Center.

The new way is also annoying because it keeps asking me to select an ATV. It can't seem to remember where it was last.
what is odd is click on Control Center and hit Calculator and it brings up the App. With Remote now there is NO app.
I used to think it would be nice if Calculator was a CC quick-app thing not the full fledged app but now I would want that with the CC Remote.

and now if I am using the Apple Remote from CC and want to hit up MacRumors, or Reddit, or Mail, I can't just swipe back to the Remote, I have to toggle CC down, then select the remote button.
 
Yeah I had that crashing issue with my Family Room and Basement AppleTVs. The Control Center was always fine.

I still see Apple TV Remote App as a Shortcut/Automation option but it does nothing. Even creating a new shortcut and pulling in that line does nothing. That stinks as it was nice to say Movie Time, have the lights change, the TV come on, and switch to TV have an app selection and start on the TV and the remote app ready so I could just use that with a single phrase.
I still have that stuff with my harmony hub and my harmony bridge app on my mac. Used shortcuts for harmony and HomeKit. Works pretty well.
 
Really disliking the removal of the remote app. For the love of god, is there a way to remove it from the lock screen? Not sure if anyone else is having this issue but I used it to turn off one of our Apple TVs and now it's permanently on the lock screen.
 
is there a way to side load the app somehow? I know you can add apps to your Home Screen that aren’t allowed or done easily.
good thing is the control center one is improved and you can scroll the same way as the app was. Also a good thing is when I switch my apple tv’s in it I don’t have the control center one crashing. It was crashing on me for years and I could only use it for my bedroom appletv. But it I tried to click my living room appletv it would hang and crash. But that’s fixed.
I tried to use the watch’s Remote app to work my Apple TV but I get an error
it used to work, so I’ll need to work out why the problem
 
I clearly don't use iOS Remote as often as you guys do but I actually like it. I don't know if the old one was supposed to but the old remote wouldn't stay on the lock screen for me so it was just a hassle to use in that aspect. Again if it was supposed to then mine just wasn't working.

Also now I have buttons to control AirPlay 2 TV's which was clearly a problem.

I still prefer an actual remote though. I'm not a huge fan of the new Siri Remote however I much prefer the slight tactile feel it offers over last gen remote and my iPhone.
 
I miss the Remote app and don't like how more stuff is getting pushed into Control Center.

The new way is also annoying because it keeps asking me to select an ATV. It can't seem to remember where it was last.
I can’t stand this control center remote. Swipe down, click remote, select the correct Apple TV, use remote, lock phone, pick up phone, swipe down, click remote, select correct Apple TV, use remote. OMG it is so annoying now.

Can’t switch between apps and remote anymore without extra nonsense since it is in control center.

Come on Apple - fix this! At least make it remember which Apple TV was used last.
 
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