I would update. But I do not know that either of these statements are true. It is not resting HR, for certain. And I don't think Apple has said anything about battery. I think that 9to5Mac started the speculation that it was for battery, but that was just their guess.The heart rate thing isn't an issue. It's done on purpose because it's supposed to be an indicator of resting heart rate. It also has the side effect of massive battery life savings.
It only measures your heart rate when your wrist is sitting still. This is done for two reasons: 1) to avoid inaccurate readings due to flailing wrists and 2) to provide a resting heart rate. Apple themselves stated that it's designed to measure heart rate when the wrist is still so it's not just me speculating.I would update. But I do not know that either of these statements are true. It is not resting HR, for certain. And I don't think Apple has said anything about battery. I think that 9to5Mac started the speculation that it was for battery, but that was just their guess.
Apple only said that the reading methodology was intentional. Apple did not say that it was to obtain more accurate or resting HR. If it was for resting HR, it would need wait until the wearer was totally inactive for a significant period of time prior to the reading, not just the exact moment of the reading. Although they did not state it, it does not make sense that they did it for accuracy, because that would mean that the readings are all inaccurate when exercising. And, many posts on the forum affirm the accuracy while working out.It only measures your heart rate when your wrist is sitting still. This is done for two reasons: 1) to avoid inaccurate readings due to flailing wrists and 2) to provide a resting heart rate. Apple themselves stated that it's designed to measure heart rate when the wrist is still so it's not just me speculating.
As for the battery, of course it'd be better on battery. The heart rate sensor uses quite a lot of power and measuring less frequently would save battery life. Pretty sure most people who did the update noticed it as well.
It's kind of common sense that the reason measurements are done when you're still is to provide more accurate readings when you're not in the middle of an activity. Apple doesn't have to state the obvious for it to be obvious.Apple only said that the reading methodology was intentional. Apple did not say that it was to obtain more accurate or resting HR. If it was for resting HR, it would need wait until the wearer was totally inactive for a significant period of time prior to the reading, not just the exact moment of the reading. Although they did not state it, it does not make sense that they did it for accuracy, because that would mean that the readings are all inaccurate when exercising. And, many posts on the forum affirm the accuracy while working out.
Battery could be a reason. But again, that only started as 9to5Mac's speculation. And to the the contrary, multiple forum posts here do not observe a material difference in battery performance. Finally, other devices on the market with continuous optical HR reading have multiple days of battery life; therefore it might not be the major power drain the speculators posit.
My point is that all those comments are 100% speculation. (Not the external references, but the opinions and application of external references to Apple's intent.) They should not be treated as fact.It's kind of common sense that the reason measurements are done when you're still is to provide more accurate readings when you're not in the middle of an activity.... What's your point?
Yeah ok speaking of speculation...My point is that all those comments are 100% speculation. (Not the external references, but the opinions and application of external references to Apple's intent.) They should not be treated factually.
Folks who use optical HR sensors while exercising and flailing their arms, rhythmically or otherwise, know that they are accurate. Maybe they are more accurate when stationary, and I believe that to be likely, but I do not think it is materially different, to the point that it is worth degrading the function of the watch.
Regarding battery, let's say that 100% of the power goes to the HR sensor. And let's assume that the 1.0.1 change eliminates 20% of a day's readings. Then, that would extend the life of the battery by 216 minutes. But, it is unlikely that the HR sensor requires that much power, especially if it is only active 15 seconds every 10 minutes. Most of the power goes to the screen, apps, and housekeeping. So, what seems reasonable-- maybe 5% or 10% of the power goes to the sensor? So best case, they added another 20 minutes of battery life for the sake of the degraded function relative to every other fitness tracking device with a continuous HR measurement? Does that even make sense? Realistically, the HR sensor power demand is probably well under 5% of the watch' demands. So the battery savings is more likely on the order of 5 minutes per day.
My personal opinion is that Apple did do this for the sake of battery, but that the design team overstated the benefits while overlooking the impact the perceived degradation. I think it was a mistake that they codified as an intended behavior. Be that is just my opinion.
I say they've improved. I remember they used to take a minute to pop up on the Watch but now it's more like a 5 second delay at the most.What about the notifications?
Isn't the point that the watch receives the notifications first?I say they've improved. I remember they used to take a minute to pop up on the Watch but now it's more like a 5 second delay at the most.
Well they go through the phone. I measured the delay between the devices.Isn't the point that the watch receives the notifications first?
Isn't the point that the watch receives the notifications first?
Correct, but I'm saying that if the phone is restarted, it no longer works like this.If you're actively using the phone, then notifications will pop up on the phone first. If your phone is sleeping/locked, then notifications should appear on your Watch first.
Fella.
Correct, but I'm saying that if the phone is restarted, it no longer works like this.
Yes, thank you. I've already updated. Just inquiring about these issues that I'm still experiencing.As others in this thread have said, your best bet is to update to 1.0.1.
WatchOS 1.0 was very laggy and had numerous bugs and issues with it - probably including the one you're seeing. This is why Apple took us by surprise and rolled out 1.0.1 so soon after the release of the Watch.
I'm not saying 1.0.1 is bug-free - far from it. But it's a much nicer experience that 1.0.
Fella.
Yes, thank you. I've already updated. Just inquiring about these issues that I'm still experiencing.