what are the chances of an updated MacBook 16 processor at WWDC? should I just purchase now. I dont want to wait until WWDC for no reason.
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updated MacBook 16 pro at WWDC?
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Based on the New 13” still not having WiFi 6 with a 10th Gen Intel, then I don’t see any upgrade being substantial, but it won’t hurt to wait a month. I didn’t wait and am happy, but I bought the 16” in March.
It’s possible but what graphic updates have happened? I think the new AMD stuff is due later this year so Apple might wait to do more of an internal upgrade.
Also hopefully upgrade that webcam!
Also hopefully upgrade that webcam!
As far as the wifi6 thing goes, I suppose it’s possible that Apple is waiting for the wifi6e standard chips to be available. What’s the point in designing new antennae and infrastructure if you’re going to have to do it again now that the new standard has been approved? Or it could just be Apple being lazy. Anyway I wouldn’t think a new 16” would happen at wwdc, there are t any rumors about the possibility at this point.
The Comet Lake H-series 10th gen processors have launched, but seem to be a very minor update. Just slightly higher boost and memory speeds. I could see Apple doing a minor spec bump, or just ignoring this for a while. I have no buyers remorse - my next upgrade will be when they have miniLED displays.
Not until they think they have to! They’re not the only ones, PC laptops have crappy 720p cameras as well.
Comet Lake H brings back hyper threading which is a massive multicore performance increase. The i9 HK model grants 10 cores and 20 threads too.
The issue that a summer refresh brings is that RNDA GPUs will be unchanged - RDNA2 GPUs are due at the end of the year and there should be no doubt they'll be reserved for the mini LED refresh in 2021.
And WiFi 6 may not be on the cards either unless Apple decide it's something they have to add earlier to give another reason for people to upgrade.
October would be the logical time to drop an upgrade.
Like I said, I suspect Apple may wait until WiFi 6e chips are available en mass before releasing a computer with WiFi 6. I know they already did the phones, but the computers are a larger investment.
Apple has ignored minor updates from Intel in the past. They didn’t update the 12” MacBook for Amber Lake but still sold the Skylake version for another year. Perhaps it’s because they knew they were going to discontinue it, but then again, they also have let the Mac Mini stay on the same processor generation multiple times.
Is the Comet Lake and the New Video cards worth the wait compared to the current 16"? is it a huge improvement making it run cooler and much faster on both video cards and processor?
I wouldn’t think so. I think the big ticket here is the MiniLED display. I’m not sure that the first generation of that is a great idea either though!
There are currently no MacBook Pro 16" rumours as quoted by Jon Prosser or the LovetoDream twitter account.
Apple have ignored certain updates in the past but not without good reason and usually due to lack of interesting updates. They generally don't miss good updates for the flagship MacBook Pro and not while the relevant CPU has been already been available for a while. If they update it as late as October it would only be because they are waiting on October as the 'traditional' MacBook Pro update point or they have their hands full with the iPhones.
The current world situation with supply and manufacturing delays and shortages plus economic downturn make it especially difficult to judge for Apple.
The 16" appears to be a bit of a Rev A product for some, so a Rev B revision with Comet Lake H sounds like a logical refresh this year by October. Even if they don't upgrade the GPU - and RDNA2 probably won't be available till the end of the year - the extra threads and potentially cores (if they use the HK model as per top SKU BTO part in the top SKU 2019 16" MBP) would be great news for video editors. I couldn't speak specifically on any cooling situation.
RDNA2 (aka 'Big Navi') is reportedly worth the wait because of a line in a leak video I saw suggesting a 50% IPC increase over RDNA and that 'at mobile power draws' it keeps up with an Nvidia GTX 1080 for compute. This would be massive for video in MBP and iMac and should wow gamers.
If mini LED is due in early 2021 Apple could also decide to leave Rev B until a March launch next year (for example) and make that the super-cycle because RDNA2 GPUs would become available. Mini LED could equally be a September/October 2021 release and therefore a Rev C model with Rocket Lake H and RDNA2.
Meant Coffee Lake desktop, definitely participating in too many forum posts at the moment
Comet Lake offers 10 core 20 thread top SKU (which is BTO).
With this in mind I guess you could call it a Rev B refresh if they don't add RDNA2 graphics - I guess they won't be waiting for that though.
There might be a late 2020 version in the works but it won’t be a considerable update. I’m pretty aure it’s safe to buy now. Apart from that: the current model is a great machine, why beat yourself up.
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