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i currently have a mid 2012 15” MacBook Pro 2.3GHz i7. It has 16gb of ram, a 1tb solid state drive and an AMD RADEON graphics card. It is still plenty fast but I kind of want a 13” MacBook Pro. I’m looking at specs on the new ones and I’m not sure for less than $2000 if I can get on with similar performance. What do you guys think? Should I upgrade?

Thanks!
 
Honestly, stick with your current model. Downgrading to a smaller model, even if a few years newer, may show a decrease in performance. Also, you won't find any new 13-inch MBP with 16GB of RAM and 1TB storage for under $2,000. Your current machine should still last a bit longer, especially with that amount of memory available.
 
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Honestly, stick with your current model. Downgrading to a smaller model, even if a few years newer, may show a decrease in performance. Also, you won't find any new 13-inch MBP with 16GB of RAM and 1TB storage for under $2,000. Your current machine should still last a bit longer, especially with that amount of memory available.
+1 to this advice.

I have the same 15" as well as a 2012 13" 2.9GHz i7.

I'm pretty sure these are the last MBPs that I will own. I use my iPad Pro much more now. Which leads to the next question, why get another MBP?
 
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i currently have a mid 2012 15” MacBook Pro 2.3GHz i7. It has 16gb of ram, a 1tb solid state drive and an AMD RADEON graphics card. It is still plenty fast but I kind of want a 13” MacBook Pro. I’m looking at specs on the new ones and I’m not sure for less than $2000 if I can get on with similar performance. What do you guys think? Should I upgrade?

Thanks!

You give no idea what you use it for so it's very difficult to advise you.
 
What do you guys think? Should I upgrade?
What apps do you use?
Do you travel a lot?
Does the laptop sit at your desk for long periods of time, or do you want to use it around the house, i.e., using it on a couch?

Personal note, I want from a 15" to a 13" MBP for mobility needs, and I regretted it. I even tried going with a Surface Book and that wasn't helpful only because in both cases the physical dimensions of the display were hampering me. The next laptop I get will be 15" because I've gotten used to and prefer the larger display.

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Intel now sells a quad core at 15W, so I'd expect the next revision of the 13" to have a quad core processor about on par with that of your 15". So, I'd wait for the eventual refresh.
 
How do you use the system? Are you currently doing work that benefits significantly from having a quad core CPU?
 
Whether its Mac or a Windows PC, they do last longer these days. I have an Acer Aspire right now from 2012 and its still going strong. The same goes for my 2014 Surface Pro 3. Considering Mac's have a reputation for lasting long and working well even when they are obsolete.

Considering your Mac is not even on Apple's vintage list yet, I would keep what you have a little longer. 16 GBs of RAM and 1 TB SSD is nothing to sneeze at.

My Early 2015 MBP 13 meets most of my needs, although I was using it full time this week and was frustrated with the screen. But, it got the job done. My next purchase, whether thats a MacBook Pro or Surface Book will definitely have to be 15 inch.
 
As the say "consider the source". PC World and John Dvorak
Ah lol, he's a Mac hater!

I couldn't remember who he was but it came back to me. I think I read some stuff from him in the 80s when I was writing a paper about NeXT Computer.

His wiki, has some great excerpts,

On February 19, 1984, in an article in The San Francisco Examiner, Dvorak listed the mouse as one of many reasons Apple Inc.'s Macintosh computer might not be successful: "The Macintosh uses an experimental pointing device called a ‘mouse’. There is no evidence that people want to use these things."[17][18] In 1987 he revisited the article and recanted, writing "The Mac mouse is great. I've been converted."[19]

In 1985, following Steve Jobs leaving Apple, Dvorak wrote, "Maybe when the smoke clears, we will have heard the last of Steve Jobs as guru, seer, visionary and hapless victim too ... He'll go the way of pet rock, electric carving knives, silly putty, Tiny Tim, and the three-tone paint job. Let's hope so."[20]:58

In the May 26, 1987 edition of PC Mag, Dvorak investigated the origin of the term nerd, crediting and quoting Theodor S. Geisel with coining the phrase in 1950 having "never heard the word before."[21]

In his 2007 article for MarketWatch regarding the iPhone, Dvorak wrote "If [Apple's] smart, it will call the iPhone a 'reference design' and pass it to some suckers to build with someone else's marketing budget. Then it can wash its hands of any marketplace failures. [... ] It should do that immediately before it's too late."[22]

Although he later admitted having been wrong about its success, he criticized Apple's iPad when it first appeared in 2010, stating that it was no different from other previous tablets that had failed: "I cannot see it escaping the tablet computer dead zone any time soon."[23]

Dvorak has mentioned in the past that he is a fan of MorphOS[24] and used the Video Toaster in its heyday.[25][26][27]
 
What apps do you use?
Do you travel a lot?
Does the laptop sit at your desk for long periods of time, or do you want to use it around the house, i.e., using it on a couch?

Personal note, I want from a 15" to a 13" MBP for mobility needs, and I regretted it. I even tried going with a Surface Book and that wasn't helpful only because in both cases the physical dimensions of the display were hampering me. The next laptop I get will be 15" because I've gotten used to and prefer the larger display.

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Putting on my moderator hat, I updated the title as a single word title is not descriptive and fails to help direct members to your thread. In the future please make your thread titles as descriptive as possible
interesting I always prefer larger MacBooks but the trend is towards 13 inches
 
I have a 8GB/256GB late-2013 15" MacBook Pro (base model)
I also have a 16GB/512GB 2016 13" MacBook Pro i7 (almost the top spec)

For kicks I ran a bunch of stuff side by side. Installing software, building test projects in Xcode and NetBeans, processing files with MakeMKV...

The older 15" is still faster at almost everything. The only things the 13" is faster at are things that are very, very disk intensive or only run a single process for a long time.
 
I have a 8GB/256GB late-2013 15" MacBook Pro (base model)
I also have a 16GB/512GB 2016 13" MacBook Pro i7 (almost the top spec)

For kicks I ran a bunch of stuff side by side. Installing software, building test projects in Xcode and NetBeans, processing files with MakeMKV...

The older 15" is still faster at almost everything. The only things the 13" is faster at are things that are very, very disk intensive or only run a single process for a long time.
thats surprising results.
 
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