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kzlambert said:
Of course you will, Leopard will be available as a retail boxed copy for US$129 when it is released (price is not definite but that's what 10.2, 10.3 and 10.4 were so it stands to reason). It will not be a free upgrade a la the 10.4.x software updates. Although, when you purchase and install Leopard, the 10.5.x updates will be free.
Your PowerBook will support all the features of Leopard (minus Boot Camp - that requires an Intel machine to run Windows) including all the Core Image and Core Animation eye candy. If you have a nice and big external HDD already you'll be up and running on Time Machine right away, if you don't I suggest you add it to your christmas list now.
kzlambert said:
Yeah, Thundercats are cool and everything but we try not to have pictures in our signatures on this site - it keeps the pages loading quickly so you get your answers quicker.
When you get 500 posts you could put a picture of one of them in your user avatar if you wanted.
The best thing to put in your signature would be the stats of your Mac, what it is, how much RAM, what version of the OS are you running - that way, while you're a newbie here at least we can give you properly tailored advice.
Chundles said:
Ok thanks for that... I wasn't trying to cause trouble
I will remove it (and you can remove it from your quote). I agree that it is probably better without them, especially when you are trying to get help. Hope you forgive
kzlambert said:Ok thanks for that... I wasn't trying to cause trouble
I will remove it (and you can remove it from your quote). I agree that it is probably better without them, especially when you are trying to get help. Hope you forgive
No big deal.
Everything is fine, welcome to the forums. Answers fly thick and fast here and we're only too happy to help those who come willingly and openly.There's a call I could make on my last statement but I'll keep this thread out of the gutter...
Why is everyone talking about using an external harddrive with Leopard?
Lets assume that Apple does not make it work on a single partition by the time that it ships...
Why not just take your hard disk (mine is 120GB in my Powerbook) and divide into 100GB OSX, 20GB TimeMachine. Then, everything is LOCAL on your system and all it did was cost you 20GB that will only back up your documents and iTunes purchases (just in case).
I have a very loaded system with 54GB of music, 5 GB of documents and a bunch of programs (including Adobe CS2 Standard) and I am only sitting at 73GB Hard disk utilization.
Odds are that people have a whole lot less music than I do (possibly substituting with videos), but I seriously doubt that the majority of users have their hard disks completely full.
I would think that this would become the default configuration in Leopard upon shipping IF they do not get it to work under a single-drive, single-partition configuration.
Lets assume that Apple does not make it work on a single partition by the time that it ships...
Why not just take your hard disk (mine is 120GB in my Powerbook) and divide into 100GB OSX, 20GB TimeMachine. Then, everything is LOCAL on your system and all it did was cost you 20GB that will only back up your documents and iTunes purchases (just in case).
I have a very loaded system with 54GB of music, 5 GB of documents and a bunch of programs (including Adobe CS2 Standard) and I am only sitting at 73GB Hard disk utilization.
Odds are that people have a whole lot less music than I do (possibly substituting with videos), but I seriously doubt that the majority of users have their hard disks completely full.
I would think that this would become the default configuration in Leopard upon shipping IF they do not get it to work under a single-drive, single-partition configuration.
projectle said:
Ok, lets say you have a 120GB disk in your laptop and that 40GB of that is filled up. You want some free space, so you reduce the size to 60GB and create another 60GB partiton. You backup your laptop for the first time with time machine, thats 60GB already (you couldnt do it with 20GB unless you had hardly any files). Now in 2 or 3 months, that partition will be full, because you will have made 20GB worth of alterations (every alteration is logged, so you can go back). This stratergy will not work unless the drive is way bigger than the files on it.
sorry if that was wordy
Therefore, I don't think this is a good solution, and what if your hard drive gets scratched or corrupted? you will need a backup that isnt also scratched because it was on the same drive.
I'm guessing that Time Machine uses some kind of heavy duty encoding algorithm (like the one used for zip files) so that the backed up data isn't on a 1-to-1 size scale to the current data. This means it would take longer to read this data because you'd have to decode it first, but since you're not using it on a day-to-day basis, that should be fine. Not sure how far they can compress data, but I think it can get a whole lot better than 1-to-1.
I could be entirely wrong, of course.
I could be entirely wrong, of course.
chaingarden said:
The initial Time Machine backup is a sparse disk image, same as CCC.
When I used CCC it appeared to make an image file the same size as the drive cloned.... uncompressed.
I could be wrong though.
ok guys, leopard related noobie question
i have the last version of the 17 powerbook
and would like to upgrade to leopard when it comes out
i havent done a major upgrade before so i'm wondering
if i'll lose everything that's on my mac now when i do?
does it format the drive or will i lose my apps or anything?
or do i just do an "upgrade" and lose nothing?
thanks and go easy on me
i have the last version of the 17 powerbook
and would like to upgrade to leopard when it comes out
i havent done a major upgrade before so i'm wondering
if i'll lose everything that's on my mac now when i do?
does it format the drive or will i lose my apps or anything?
or do i just do an "upgrade" and lose nothing?
thanks and go easy on me
No, but occasionally you will need to fish a few files out from your old library directories that were archived (Photoshop is a common victim). An upgrade install would let you avoid even that.sk3pt1c said:
Just in case: this all applies to the released Leopard in a few months' time. It would be a Very Bad Idea to attempt this kind of thing on a disk you care about with any prerelease operating system.
