Upgrading from a patched Monterey on a MBP 9.2 (13-inch, Mid-2012) to Ventura

[ejj18]

Last year, I installed Monterey with a patcher on a partition of my MacBook Pro 9.2 (13-inch, Mid-2012), which has been working fairly well.

Recently, the software update in "about-this-mac" suggested to upgrade to Ventura.

Is it possible and worth to upgrade from a patched Monterey to Ventura

 

[sdfox7]

The safest way to do this is to download the Ventura OCLP, and create a bootable USB following the instructions on their site. Then do the install from there by clicking on the patched installer.

If you don't use the Ventura patcher and instead do an in-place upgrade, you will likely have extremely slow performance due to the lack of proper graphics support ("legacy Metal") and hardware acceleration.

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[ejj18]

Thanks.

Is Ventura on a MacBookPro 9,2, fast enough and stable?

Are all apps working?

 

[ejj18]

Is Sonoma working as well as Ventura on a MacBookPro 9,2?

 

[davidlv]

Thanks.

Is Ventura on a MacBookPro 9,2, fast enough and stable?

Are all apps working?

The OCLP release 0.6.8 is very stable even on older hardware like your MBP, but Ventura is a much more complex animal than Monterey. Some people find it more comfortable to use Monterey with OCLP, lighter and more responsive, while others seem to find it runs Ventura well. I think you will have to try Ventura and make your own decision on which you like better. Keep in mind that in order to run/install Monterey, you only need version 0.4.11 of OCLP, while Ventura requires the latest stable release 0.6.8 to get everything working with Ventura 13.5.1. Older versions of Ventura have different requirements, a complex issue.

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Sonoma is a new OS now still in beta, and while the OCLP devs have worked wonders getting it working, it is a work in progress. The beta versions seem to be settling down, but I personally think it is best to wait for the official release of Sonoma if you are considering using that hardware as your daily driver or for serious work. Note that the version of OCLP required for Sonoma is different than that required for Ventura. See the Sonoma thread for more info.

 

[sdfox7]

Thanks.

Is Ventura on a MacBookPro 9,2, fast enough and stable?

Are all apps working?

I cannot answer if "all" apps work, but all the ones I use work on my 2012 MD101LL/A (last one with upgradable RAM and DVD burner). I did this back in May hence the old screenshot.

If you're not sure, it might be better to install it to an external SSD or hard drive to test everything after installing.

 

[jockz02]

Hi

I cannot answer if "all" apps work, but all the ones I use work on my 2012 MD101LL/A (last one with upgradable RAM and DVD burner). I did this back in May hence the old screenshot.

If you're not sure, it might be better to install it to an external SSD or hard drive to test everything after installing.

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Hello, I'm wondering how Ventura works on your Macbook, since I have the same model, are there any problems with the processor temperature? I had High Sierra, and I installed Monterey, but the laptop seems to heat up more

 

[ejj18]

I use both Catalina and Monterey.

I didn't notice more heat with Monterey; but next time I'll check the

 

[ejj18]

I cloned my previous 500GB Crucial SSD (2 partitions: Catalina and Monterey-OpenCore Patcher, installed in Feb 2022) to a new 2TB Crucial SSD (3 partitions: Catalina, Monterey and Ventura) with CCC, my MBP 9,2 (13-inch, mid-2012).

Partition 1 (Catalina): My MBPis booting from Catalina; but there is no first boot screen showing choice between Catalina and Monterey (OpenCore Patcher).

Is there a way to reinstall just the correct drivers to boot the new SSD Monterey Partition and the first boot screen showing the booting choice Monterey or Catalina?

Or shall I reinstall the full OCLP release (I can see that the Monterey folders have been cloned in the Monterey partition)?

As you suggested:

Partition 2 (Monterey): I am going to run/install Monterey on the second partition, with version 0.4.11 of OCLP.

Partition 3 (Ventura): I am going to run/install Ventura on the third partition, with version OCLP release 0.6.8.

 

[davidlv]

I have heard that it is best to have only once instance (install) of OCLP on one disk.
It may be possible to have two as you planned, but sometimes you have to clear the nvram and each version of OCLP will write to the NVRAM in a different way. So it may be best to just use the 0.6.8 release, one install for both Monterey and Ventura. I have tested 0.6.9n on Monterey on a iMAc 15,1, no issues works well.
When you install OCLP make sure the boot-picker option is enabled.

 

[ejj18]

Thanks for the advice. I'll try it tomorrow.

 

[ejj18]

I used the 0.6.8 release for installing Monterey, from the Catalina partition.
It was simple. However, the arrow is not as easy to move.

I used the 0.6.8 release for installing Ventura, from the Catalina partition and from the Monterey partition.
Every time, I restart, holding Option at the first boot screen, I see [Efi], [Catalina] and [Monterey]: OCLP does not ask for the [Ventura] partition to install.

 

[ejj18]

BTW: I didn't see the boot-picker option for enabling it. Is it in settings?

 

[davidlv]

BTW: I didn't see the boot-picker option for enabling it. Is it in settings?

Yes, it is in the settings. Open the OCLP app, click on the "Settings" button, it's halfway down on the right. Should be on by default.
In regard to "the arrow is not as easy to move", are you hitting the "Tab" key, that's how you move the selection, & you must select the EFI icon first, hit Enter, and then choose the system you want to boot from.
Do you see the Ventura icon after hitting the EFI icon?
As you probably know, there is only one EFI partition, separate from the system specific Partitions or Volumes you have set up. If you have another separate internal disk in the machine, it is possible to install a different OCLP version on that disk, but that is not recommended at all.
So I don't understand your "OCLP does not ask for the [Ventura] partition to install", as the EFI is installed on a low level partition and not to the Ventura partition.
You might consider reading the OCLP instructions again, it is full of interesting info.

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[ejj18]

Boot-picker was on.
Arrow rather slow to move once inside Monterey.
I select the EFI icon and Enter; but there is no Ventura icon after hitting the EFI icon.
I have only one 2TB SSD in the MBP, with three partitions: Catalina, Monterey and Ventura.

 

[ejj18]

After booting holding Option, I can see only [EFI], [Catalina] , [Monterey].
After hitting [EFI], the only choice is [Catalina] or [Monterey].

 

[davidlv]

After booting holding Option, I can see only [EFI], [Catalina] , [Monterey].
After hitting [EFI], the only choice is [Catalina] or [Monterey].

What version of OCLP are you using?
In order to install Ventura, what method did you use? It seems that that method didn't work as expected.
Booting from a Ventura USB install disk is the standard method recommended, followed by pointing the installer to the target partition. If that doesn't work, you can try using CCC to make a backup of the Monterey system on the Ventura partition, and then putting a copy of the Ventura installer in the Applications folder on that Ventura partition and running it. Of course, you will have to replace any system specific apps like Onyx, but most of your system settings will get picked up, internet settings, etc. Worth a try.

 

[ejj18]

Thanks.
As you suggested I used the 0.6.8 release for installing Monterey, which is working well
I used also the 0.6.8 release for installing Ventura.
I booted from the Ventura USB; but then, I was not asked to point the installer to the target partition, like during the Monterey USB installation. I tried several times; without success.

 

[ejj18]

Last night, I started again 0.6.8 release with a different 32 GB USB 3.1 and it pointed to the Ventura target partition.

However, just before the end of installation, it stopped and showed an "Error".

I rebooted several times and it finished the installation.

Then, I started the Migration, which is an excellent feature, like for transferring apps and data in recent IOS.

Now, Ventura looks operational.

Today, I'll update all apps and try working with them.

Shall I use again 0.6.8 release for future Ventura updates or click on the updates automatically downloaded from Apple?

Thanks again for your help!

 

[davidlv]

Last night, I started again 0.6.8 release with a different 32 GB USB 3.1 and it pointed to the Ventura target partition.

However, just before the end of installation, it stopped and showed an "Error".

I rebooted several times and it finished the installation.

Then, I started the Migration, which is an excellent feature, like for transferring apps and data in recent IOS.

Now, Ventura looks operational.

Today, I'll update all apps and try working with them.

Shall I use again 0.6.8 release for future Ventura updates or click on the updates automatically downloaded from Apple?

Thanks again for your help!

You should check occasionally to see what the current OCLP release is, but for now version 0.6.8 seems to be working for you. There is a 0.6.9 nightly that is very solid too.

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When an OTA update is available, download it and install it. In some cases, you may have to download the full installer file. The OCLP app should prompt you to redo the Post Install Patches after a system update.