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WhatTheFox

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Greetings!

I've been debating between getting a MBA 2020 (i5 / 16GB / 256GB) or 16" MBP 2019 (i7 / 16GB / 512GB). I have a Win10 laptop from work so this will be my personal machine for learning and keeping up with software development (NodeJS, Java etc.) and DevOps (Jenkins, docker, Kubernetes, AWS etc.)

If anyone here has a similar use-case and experience with either or both machines then please let me know!

Thanks.
 
Hi. The last good MacBook Pro was in 2015 (although there have been some mishaps with the LCD coating). Do not buy MacBook Pro from 2016-2019, even if they tell you that the keyboard is improved. The new (scissor) keyboard is in 16 inch mbp and is to be in 14 inch mbp. Air this year is also to receive such. If I were you, I'd buy a 16 inch mbp 2020 or wait for a new mbp14 /new Air ...
 
Hey! I'm also a software developer and have kind of a similar use case (change Java for Python). I got the i5 8GB 256. Couldn't be happier. In Spain i3 to i5 is just 50€ so was a no brainer upgrade. However 8 to 16GB is +250€ and the way MacOS manages ram is surprisingly efficient, so with this use case I'm NEVER running out of ram and seems keeping the money has been a good choice. Anyway probably the i3 8gb will be good enough, just look at the user reviews thread.

I was looking for a machine that can be an extension of me on day to day life. To move around, carry it and be able to work on it anywhere without hassle. So apart from a powerful enough machine, big plus to me was build quality, weight, battery, display, a good keyboard, Mac OS, best in class trackpad, good customer service if anything happens, nice speakers, quiet when working (it is! with our use case that doesn't involve 3 4k VP9 videos on the background hah) touch ID, iPhone integration and an overall fast feeling when working with the machine. It excels in all these parameters.

Maybe some dell can give you similar results... To me, usability features that don't come as numbers in the tech specs have been paying off way more than CPU GHz. Things as odd as a robust machine build with aluminum, big enough glass trackpad, a backlit keyboard back in the day, retina display nowadays, how the speakers are made to get that clean sound, how the hardware options are selected to give you the nice balance between performance-battery etc, all that give you a premium machine that will last for years and will give you that feeling of 'damn what a piece of art' every time you open it and start being productive.
It's been eye opening how I've been able to work with a MBP 2010 until last month (when I broke the display) and see the face of my PC colleagues when I told them it was a 10 year old machine (with a C2D!). It aged so well and I'm looking for similar results with this MBA :)
 
Hi. The last good MacBook Pro was in 2015 (although there have been some mishaps with the LCD coating). Do not buy MacBook Pro from 2016-2019, even if they tell you that the keyboard is improved. The new (scissor) keyboard is in 16 inch mbp and is to be in 14 inch mbp. Air this year is also to receive such. If I were you, I'd buy a 16 inch mbp 2020 or wait for a new mbp14 /new Air ...
The 2020 Air already has the scissor keyboard, as does the 2019 16" MacBook Pro. There's no reason not to buy either if one feels it's appropriate.
 
Hey! I'm also a software developer and have kind of a similar use case (change Java for Python). I got the i5 8GB 256. Couldn't be happier. In Spain i3 to i5 is just 50€ so was a no brainer upgrade. However 8 to 16GB is +250€ and the way MacOS manages ram is surprisingly efficient, so with this use case I'm NEVER running out of ram and seems keeping the money has been a good choice. Anyway probably the i3 8gb will be good enough, just look at the user reviews thread.

I was looking for a machine that can be an extension of me on day to day life. To move around, carry it and be able to work on it anywhere without hassle. So apart from a powerful enough machine, big plus to me was build quality, weight, battery, display, a good keyboard, Mac OS, best in class trackpad, good customer service if anything happens, nice speakers, quiet when working (it is! with our use case that doesn't involve 3 4k VP9 videos on the background hah) touch ID, iPhone integration and an overall fast feeling when working with the machine. It excels in all these parameters.

Maybe some dell can give you similar results... To me, usability features that don't come as numbers in the tech specs have been paying off way more than CPU GHz. Things as odd as a robust machine build with aluminum, big enough glass trackpad, a backlit keyboard back in the day, retina display nowadays, how the speakers are made to get that clean sound, how the hardware options are selected to give you the nice balance between performance-battery etc, all that give you a premium machine that will last for years and will give you that feeling of 'damn what a piece of art' every time you open it and start being productive.
It's been eye opening how I've been able to work with a MBP 2010 until last month (when I broke the display) and see the face of my PC colleagues when I told them it was a 10 year old machine (with a C2D!). It aged so well and I'm looking for similar results with this MBA :)

This is very much the kind of response I was looking to get. Thank you!
 
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My use case would be running just one Virtualbox with debian, one core and with 512mb to 1gb RAM. Then I would connect Visual Studio Code to this debian (remote SSH). Would base model i3/8/256 work without problems or would it be laggy to use with dual core, even that i3 supports hyper-threading? How about temps? Anyone tried or is using?
 
The 2020 Air already has the scissor keyboard, as does the 2019 16" MacBook Pro. There's no reason not to buy either if one feels it's appropriate.

You are right, air 2020 is already on the market with a new keyboard (as I wrote) but remember that its availability varies depending on the market;) for example, I have to wait for it;)
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My use case would be running just one Virtualbox with debian, one core and with 512mb to 1gb RAM. Then I would connect Visual Studio Code to this debian (remote SSH). Would base model i3/8/256 work without problems or would it be laggy to use with dual core, even that i3 supports hyper-threading? How about temps? Anyone tried or is using?
You may be interested in information about the performance of the Macbook Air but the 2015 version ... I have one with 8GB of RAM and an SSD disk - in addition, I have installed Windows 10 through parallels. In Windows 10 I use a program that uses the Sql database quite intensively (it is not v.large) but everything works very quickly. I could sell a PC; so the older Air 2015 copes with virtualization quite well, rather Air 2020 will not be worse;) ;
although I have to admit that I had to install a program that starts cooling the processor earlier.
 
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I'm running VS code, edge browser with 5 tabs, spotify, virtualbox with centOS VM, 2 terminal windows connecting to vm, python program parsing 12gb file in the VM, an excel spreadsheet, whatsapp desktop client, messages app, thinkorswim java trading application replaying trading from Friday. No heat, no fan and very happy. Saying that, I would be skeptical about docker though. My config is i5/16gb/256gb.
 
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